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Welcome to the second development diary for Europa Universalis 4: El Dorado. Today we’ll only be talking about a single feature, but it’s probably the single biggest feature we’ve added to EU4 since launch: The Nation Designer.


As the name implies, the Nation Designer allows players with the El Dorado expansion to create their own, custom-designed nation to play instead of picking one of the historical nations. The Nation Designer is available for both Single-Player and Multi-Player, and can be used at any start date as long as you are starting a new game.

To make a custom nation, you simply click the new ‘Custom Nation’ button during country selection. This will prompt you to pick a capital province for your custom nation: Choose carefully, as the capital province cannot be changed without cancelling your custom nation entirely! You can start anywhere on the map that isn’t water or wasteland.

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Once you have chosen your capital, you will be taken to the Nation Designer interface. From here you can freely add or remove provinces from your new nation, though each point of base tax and base manpower deducts from your 200 point allowance. What does 200 points buy you? A country somewhere between Hungary and Austria in strength in 1444 - a low-end major power. You can’t build France with 200 points, but how many big blue blobs do we need?

This allowance can be changed in the settings (more on that later). If you exceed your points allowance, you will be unable to finalize your custom nation (and thus start the game).

But if EU4 has emphasized anything it’s that there is more to a nation than the land it occupies. You can further customize your nation’s Appearance, Government and Ideas. This is done through the menu on the left-hand side of the screen.

Appearance
The appearance tab is where you configure the name, map color and flag of your nation. A variety of patterns and emblems are available, with the colors taken from the flags of historical nations in the game to keep them stylistically similar. The name and flag are purely aesthetic and do not cost any points from your allowance.

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Government
The government tab is where you configure your rulers and how your state is governed. Here you can set the name, dynasty, gender, age and skills of your ruler (and heir if you’re a monarchy), with point costs depending on age and skill so that a 20-year old 6/6/6 will be more expensive than a 60-year old with the same skills, but a 20-year old 0/0/0 actually gives you a decent chunk points back to spend on other things. (Then you can send him off to die in a war or something, I guess.)

In addition to tweaking your rulers you can also set your culture, religion, government, graphical style and technology group. These are taken by default from your starting position, so that if you start your custom nation in England you will start English Catholic with Western tech and graphics. Culture, Religion and graphical style are free of points costs, while certain, more advanced Governments will have a cost. The cost for Technology Group depends on your location - picking Western tech in England costs you nothing, while doing the same in North America is very expensive.

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Ideas
The ideas tab is where you configure your custom idea set by picking from over 90 different Administrative, Diplomatic and Military modifiers and setting the level of each. Modifier levels range from 1 to 4, with some modifiers being limited to level 1 or 2 - you can’t start with 4 colonists, for example. Your custom ideas set always consists of two tradition modifiers, seven idea modifiers, and one ambitions modifier.

The first level of most modifiers is free, with an exponentially increasing cost for higher levels, and steep penalties for having more than 50% of your total modifier levels come from a single type - you can’t be all Military unless you’re willing to give up the higher level bonuses. Overall, a strong set of ideas will be quite costly and will likely mean you have to start with a small nation.

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Finalizing your Custom Nation
When you’re done setting up the nation of your dreams, you simply hit the green checkmark to finalize your nation and exit the Nation Designer interface. At this point you will be back in the lobby and can start the game if you’re ready to play.

If you realize you forgot something, you can also go back and edit your nation, or create another custom nation somewhere else on the map up to a limit of 32 custom nations in the same game. Just because you created a nation doesn’t mean you have to play it - you can set yourself up with a whole bunch of custom AI rivals if you so desire.


Settings
In addition to the nation designer itself, El Dorado also comes with a bunch of new settings for those who want an even more customized start:

Custom Setup Difficulty
This setting allows you to set the number of points available to all players when making a Custom Nation, ranging from 50 (Very Hard) to 800 (Very Easy). The numbers can also be changed through modding.

Custom Setup Nations
This allows you to change the overall setup of the map in the following ways:
Normal Setup: The map is populated by historical nations, and Custom Nations are available.
Historical Setup: The map is populated by historical nations, and Custom Nations are disabled.
Custom Setup: The map is empty asides from player-designed Custom Nations, and all nations start with a colonist.
Random Setup: The map is empty asides from player-designed Custom Nations in the lobby, but once play is started it is populated with randomly generated states that use the historical tags and names.

Custom Setup Provinces
This allows you to change the base tax and manpower of all provinces in the following ways:
Normal Values: All provinces have their historical tax and manpower values.
Random Values: All provinces have randomized tax and manpower values, weighted by factors such as terrain and climate. Total tax and manpower in the entire world will be the same as the historical provinces.
Flat Values: All provinces have the exact same tax and manpower (4 and 3 respectively).

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Client States & Revolutions
As a free bonus, we’ve tweaked the Client State interface to use the new flags from the Nation Designer, replacing the single-color single-icon flags from Art of War.

We’ve also made use of this system in the Revolution mechanics by having each nation generate a dynamic tricolor based on their national colors that will be used as their flag if they become the Revolutionary Target. No more French tricolor for everyone!

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That's all for today - join us next Thursday for yet another development diary that will be all about the Americas and Liberty.

+ Here are all videos about the Nation Designer:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqRhPbyFDQWjpJjylLqRQFNbC_vxoORU1

Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado expansion - Nation Designer Highlights
[video=youtube;WX3XGI4BFes]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX3XGI4BFes[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX3XGI4BFes

EU4: El Dorado - Nation Designer Livestream - Part 1 - Devs play the beta:
[video=youtube;GrwHCojtB8o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrwHCojtB8o[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrwHCojtB8o

EU4: El Dorado - Nation Designer Livestream - Part 2 - Devs play the beta:
[video=youtube;OMUO1ohXZAY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMUO1ohXZAY[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMUO1ohXZAY

EU4: El Dorado - Nation Designer Livestream - Part 3 - Devs play the beta:
[video=youtube;EIMLSUjzIp8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIMLSUjzIp8[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIMLSUjzIp8

EU4: El Dorado - Nation Designer Livestream - Part 4 - Devs play the beta:
[video=youtube;XgnxapM4WAI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgnxapM4WAI[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgnxapM4WAI

EU4: El Dorado - Nation Designer Livestream - Part 5 - Devs play the beta
[video=youtube;H-xqEjSUrEs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-xqEjSUrEs&index=6&list=PLqRhPbyFDQWjpJjylLqRQFNbC_ vxoORU1[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-xqEjSUrEs
 

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Do you get points back for picking a disadvantaged tech group in a better tech group area? ie Indian tech in Western Europe.
They showed this on the stream. You get less points back in this situation because you can easily turn around and westernize. Otherwise, you would get a lot of free points and westernize right away. (blame A_Spec for finding it :angry:)
 

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What list of monarch names will the custom nations use? Also I see a random name button on the UI, where are the names pulled from? Did you tie them to culture like in CK2?

Tied to culture.
 

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A question if we put a province in a colonizable province can we pick any Culture? IE if I put a province in timucua could I be welsh or Persian or something. I want to make a descendant from prince madoc nation!
 

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I can see why people might enjoy it, but it's a weird thing. If they spawn in roughly correct places you can sort of pretend you're playing in a strange alternate history (which is why we play these games). If England spawns in Borneo, it's just total fantasy and hurts my brain.

I would love (beyond words) a historic mode that either spawns them in correct cultural provinces or their natural capital. Even if it had to be flipped on via ini. But, like I said, it's hard to complain when everything else is so great, it's just this one awesome feature which is 95% of what I want, but just off enough that I know I'll never use it! :rofl:

I agree with that. Even just having each tag assigned to a region like "Europe", "East Asia", etc. would look better, even though it has no effect on gameplay.

By the way what about tech groups? Are they 100% random or based on geography?
 

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Hey, this is amazing!

The only suggestion suggestion that I have is a bit more freedom in the nation creator, specifically, I think there should be a way to completely remove the point cap (I'm a big fan of being able to design exactly the game you want). In addition, I wish there was a way to increase specific province base tax/other other attributes. For example, recently I created a game as Athens in Rome 2, I decided that I would expand to a certain point, then stop expanding and play as a defensive nation to encourage growth. I then painstakingly recreated this nation's borders in ck2 and played in the same style, as a merchant republic, only taking islands, focusing all trade into Athens. Don't you think that after almost 1,300 years of (almost all) peace, and all trade and focused to greece and Athens specifically, Athens and Greece/Anatolia would have much higher base tax? I would like to be able to make that happen. would it be balanced? no, certainly not, but it's something I would want to do.
 

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I don't know if it has been asked, but will custom nations be able to use unique government types, such as archdutchy or Dutch republic, or are they restricted to just the basic ones?
 

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I'm bemused that Paradox make this feature that can be used to make a total fantasy world, except, even in your total fantasy world, you cannot populate "wasteland". If someone is making fantasy countries in Africa or Australia or New Guinea, for example, why shouldn't they include areas that are current "wasteland"? It's not as if central New Guinea was uninhabited... parts of the southern African wasteland are that way more because there is no written record of what happened there than because there weren't "kingdoms" there... maybe in this alternate history the Sahara didn't dry up 10,000 years ago.

Not that I seriously care - I don't see me buying this DLC any time soon. It just seems a pretty arbitrary restriction.
 

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A question if we put a province in a colonizable province can we pick any Culture? IE if I put a province in timucua could I be welsh or Persian or something. I want to make a descendant from prince madoc nation!

Even better: can we start with the culture's province, even if it's unused outside of uncolonized natives? Say, Aleutian culture?
 

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A question if we put a province in a colonizable province can we pick any Culture? IE if I put a province in timucua could I be welsh or Persian or something. I want to make a descendant from prince madoc nation!

Yes, and any uncolonized provinces you grab become that culture.

Even better: can we start with the culture's province, even if it's unused outside of uncolonized natives? Say, Aleutian culture?

Yes. You can start as ANY culture in the game.