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Hello everyone! Common Sense and 1.12 have been released, and our expansion sales continue to shatter previous records! With the expansion and patch now out, we're going to shift into a different gear with our dev diaries for a while, talking about other things than upcoming features. Some ideas we've had is to discuss our design process, how we handle feedback from fans, and reflections on different parts of the game and where we want to see them go in the future.

Today, however, we're busy working on a hotfix for 1.12, so I thought I'd tell you about that, and also a bit about why there will always be bugs on release of a new expansion.

Let's deal with the hotfix first. From what we've seen, 1.12 has been a smooth launch for the majority of users, with a low bug count in new features, but there were some serious technical issues on certain hardware setups.

The hotfix is expected to be released today or tomorrow, and at present contains fixes for the following issues:

Hotfix 1.12.1 (AS OF WRITING OF THIS POST, THIS IS NOT YET OUT)
- Fixed a bug where the AI would declare suicidal wars due to incorrectly calculating defensive call acceptance
- Spain can no longer form Andalusia and vice versa (preventing endless nation forming loop for prestige)
- Forts can no longer take control of other provinces with forts (capital, mothballed or otherwise)
- Fixed a bug where the AI would accept concede defeat as the only concession even when they had 100% warscore.
- Fixed a bug where single player games started with the 'Only host can save' setting would be unable to be loaded.
- Fixed a bug where some AIs would constantly mothball and unmothball forts (this could cause serious performance hit on lower end machines as well)
- Fixed a bug where the AI would continously march back and forth between two provinces in a fort's ZoC
- Fixed exploit where you could give away ally's provinces even if not occupied in coalition war.
- Fixed a bug where rebels would spawn at very low morale when there were hostile units in their spawn province.
- Fixed an issue with steam workshop removing supported_version from .mod files
- Fixed an issue where .mod files would be printed with garbled data, resulting in CTD on launch
- Fixed an exploit where you could give away the provinces of your war allies even if they were not occupied (you should only be able to give away your own unoccupied provinces)
- Unit movement lock can no longer be bypassed by issuing another move order.
- Fixed artillery models for several different unit packs to have the correct infantry model accompanying it.
- Lowered cost of diplomatic annexation from 10 to 8 dip points per development (since there's more ways to decrease adm cost)
- Autonomy from diploannexation is now 60 (down from 75)
- Fixes issues using the MacBook trackpad when interacting with the map on OSX.
- Fixed a CTD in AI province conquest weight calculation
- Fixed a CTD related to rebels in uncolonized provinces
- Game no longer crashes when forcing nations with subjects to revoke claims.
- Save games saved in 1.12 no longer cause CTDs in 1.11 (only applies to saves made after this hotfix is applied)
- The '+' key should now increase game speed correctly on US/UK keyboards.
- Fixed issue where foreign Separatists defecting to your country caused your country to act as if it was just released.

Note that we are only considering important fixes and tweaks for hotfixes, so if you have a bug you think should be hotfixed, take a moment and ask yourself whether or not it can wait until the larger bugfixing patch that we'll be releasing later in June.


Why do patches always have bugs?
This is a question we get a lot, along with 'Do you even test your games?', and 'Do you even play your own games?'. The answer is, yes, we play our own games, and yes, we test our games. Loosely calculated, about 2400 man-hours of QA has gone into Common Sense, and before a launch every feature is tested thoroughly. Over the course of the development of 1.12 and Common Sense, approximately 1200 bugs have been fixed by the team.

So why, then, do bugs still get into the release? There are two sides to this, and the first one is math.

As of Tuesday night, we had around 20000 concurrent players. If we assume that those 20000 people each play 2 hours that night, that is 40000 hours of play. In order to have equivalent QA test hours to only 2 hours of play on a release night, we would need a team of 30 full-time QA. Scenarios that only happen once every 10000 games will realistically never happen for our QA, and when you factor in that those 20000 players have 20000 different hardware setups... you can begin to see why things like the game not launching on a single core computer (we do not have a single core computer in QA because they haven't been making them for over half a decade) or the engine upgrade breaking mac trackpads (we did not have a mac trackpad in QA, we now do and will use to test future versions) happen.

That's one side of the coin. The other side of the coin is priority.

It's always our ambition to release new expansions without bugs in the new features, and for this reason we consider newly introduced bugs higher priority than older ones. We haven't always done a great job of this in the past, but 1.12/Common Sense had a much lower bug count in new features than previous expansions. There were however, a couple immediately apparent issues, particularly the fact that movement locking did not work at all. You might reasonably ask yourself how such a thing slipped through QA. The answer: It didn't.

The movement locking bug was introduced in the very last build we made for release, as a result of fixing another bug where ZoCs would create weird movement paths. It was only found after the build was done and smoke tested (smoke testing is basically a thorough 'does the game actually run' test that we do on anything we release to the public). Given that we had no other serious known issues at the time, I made the call that the issue was not serious enough to warrant spending another half a day making a new build and testing that build. QA found the issue, I chose not to fix it because the time spent making a new build could be better spent working on our back log of older bugs, and I figured that we'd have to make a hotfix anyway due to the risk for technical issues appearing with the engine upgrade.

The simple fact of it is that we are probably never going to have a launch that doesn't introduce at least one or two serious technical issues, because we do not, and cannot test the game on the thousands and thousands of different hardware configurations that will be playing the game the moment we set the patch live. The measure of a successful launch, in my book, is not that there are no bugs, but rather that there are no serious bugs which could reasonably have been caught by our internal testing.

Do I expect this explanation to change much? Not really, because I think people like easy explanations, and 'Paradox does not even test their expansions' is a much easier explanation than 'In a complex piece of software you will always have some bugs no matter how much QA you do', 'Fixing bugs can introduce new bugs' and 'Not all bugs are worth grinding development to a halt in order to fix'.

Nonetheless, for those who wish to know, there it is.
 
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I have a macbook so I'm glad I read this before finding out the hard way about the trackpad issues! I was planning on buying the expansion immediately after checking the forums! I think I'll wait a day now.
 

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Also, just because it wouldn't be a DD if I didn't tantalize you guys a little bit.

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(We decided to use one of our unused tags for it, since removing tags can't really be done without busting save games anyway.)

Wow! Cool to see you implementing the florence republic, which was so heavily requested! Also really nice colour for Ferrara! :D
 

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Savoyard relations with Austria was more an alliance of convenience than anything. They still weren't integrated into the HRE in terms of administration and legal code.
So is there a chance that event will have any changes like not requiring to add all Kingdom of Italy to the empire but rather some of it maybe? I know you did that event to make sure Italy left HRE and its historical so i'm not complaining but just wondering if preventing it will be more doable?
 

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So far 'Common Sense' makes fun, but it's so much anarchy in Europe :D I'll wait for the hotfix. The AI is so insane, it's funny. They are trolling the Player so mouch. I like this chaos
 

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- Lowered cost of diplomatic annexation from 10 to 8 dip points per development (since there's more ways to decrease adm cost)

Appreciate the willingness to accomodate mine and many others request. It is still worth pointing out though that coring with claims is still on average 68% more, while diplomatic annexation will be 124% more than what it was.
 
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So you saw enough warrant in Florence, then! Which tag was removed/replaced to make way for it, though?
Think he said it was an unused tag.

More importantly, if Florence is getting some love, how about making sure it has at least as many building slots as provinces like Pisa? Lucca? Montferrat? The terrain bonus to "farmland" leaves other, more important provinces looking like poor cousins if they have the misfortune to be designated "coastline", "marsh", "hills", "woods".

...how can you give a Pentium IV as the game's minimum requirement if you're not even trying to run it on a Pentium IV?
Isn't that the minimum requirement from the original release? Maybe the recommendation should be updated, but with all the DLC/expansions (esp. the map/tag increases) it seems a stretch to assert that the game should be expected to run on the same minimum platform.
 

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Thanks for the explanation, I am pretty sure someone has mentioned this before (whether it was about EU4 or CK2 I can't remember) But I think it does help to let people know so we can have less moaning on the forums. Or at least constructive comments on how to fix issues rather then the usual complaints about the game not being tested.
You should copy and paste that message before every expansion.
 

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as usual hotfix 1 is where u start playing ironman and for real :) first days just for giggle xD

ANY IDEA when it comes out ? will start new ironman campaigne
 

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I've just noticed that France has been replaced as a "tutorial" country by Portugal. Is France that much more difficult now? Or is it because of the loss of it's vassal swarm meaning it has less relevance to learning how diplomacy works?
 

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I really appreciate this DD. Wiz is honest and open. He is not making up excuses at all. Thanks for that. Hope it doesn't mean there is no more space for improvement, though.

That said, I will still wait for the big hot fix. Lowering diplo points from 10 to 8 is nothing, and core costs will stick to the same current value.
 

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Savoyard relations with Austria was more an alliance of convenience than anything. They still weren't integrated into the HRE in terms of administration and legal code.
Actually Wiz, savoy was a part of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Rhenish_Circle while no other Italian country was. I think this means there more integrated in the administration of the HRE.

More Savoyard stuff is probably a good idea: Arpitan culture, capital switch, special relation with HRE, etc...

But I'm going to rejoice for the Florence implementation, thank you a lot for this. :)
 

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Some ideas we've had is to discuss our design process, how we handle feedback from fans, and reflections on different parts of the game and where we want to see them go in the future.

HAH! This is a great decision, and I heartily approve of it, I'm sure it'd be quite helpful and informative, to have a glimpse into the development process and future plans.
 

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Savoyard relations with Austria was more an alliance of convenience than anything. They still weren't integrated into the HRE in terms of administration and legal code.
Savoy, differently from all other Italian states, was part of the Imperial Circle system and a member of the Upper Rhenish Circle (Wikipedia is not an ideal source, but here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Rhenish_Circle). Differently from all Italian states, they provided troops for their circle's Imperial troop contingent, paid the Kammerzieler (the Imperial tax), they (as only Italian state) had a seat and vote in the Imperial Diet. Their status and relationship with the HRE was not the same as that of, say, Tuscany or Lombardia.
EDIT: Beaten to it ;)
 

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Not in hotfix, but we're releasing a larger patch later in June that will have +1 diplomat for all rank 2+ countries and +1 free leader for all rank 3+ countries (keep in mind you don't have to have Common Sense to be rank 2).

On that note, will Austria become kingdom ranked/will you allow the Emperor to upgrade their rank?
 

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As far as pathing problems go, how is pathing calculated? Is there anything special algorithm for pathing or is it just Dijkstra's algorithm? And is there special stuff you do to make the "passable" node check more reasonable? Do you have any special way you store the map/adjacency's?