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Hello everyone! Common Sense and 1.12 have been released, and our expansion sales continue to shatter previous records! With the expansion and patch now out, we're going to shift into a different gear with our dev diaries for a while, talking about other things than upcoming features. Some ideas we've had is to discuss our design process, how we handle feedback from fans, and reflections on different parts of the game and where we want to see them go in the future.

Today, however, we're busy working on a hotfix for 1.12, so I thought I'd tell you about that, and also a bit about why there will always be bugs on release of a new expansion.

Let's deal with the hotfix first. From what we've seen, 1.12 has been a smooth launch for the majority of users, with a low bug count in new features, but there were some serious technical issues on certain hardware setups.

The hotfix is expected to be released today or tomorrow, and at present contains fixes for the following issues:

Hotfix 1.12.1 (AS OF WRITING OF THIS POST, THIS IS NOT YET OUT)
- Fixed a bug where the AI would declare suicidal wars due to incorrectly calculating defensive call acceptance
- Spain can no longer form Andalusia and vice versa (preventing endless nation forming loop for prestige)
- Forts can no longer take control of other provinces with forts (capital, mothballed or otherwise)
- Fixed a bug where the AI would accept concede defeat as the only concession even when they had 100% warscore.
- Fixed a bug where single player games started with the 'Only host can save' setting would be unable to be loaded.
- Fixed a bug where some AIs would constantly mothball and unmothball forts (this could cause serious performance hit on lower end machines as well)
- Fixed a bug where the AI would continously march back and forth between two provinces in a fort's ZoC
- Fixed exploit where you could give away ally's provinces even if not occupied in coalition war.
- Fixed a bug where rebels would spawn at very low morale when there were hostile units in their spawn province.
- Fixed an issue with steam workshop removing supported_version from .mod files
- Fixed an issue where .mod files would be printed with garbled data, resulting in CTD on launch
- Fixed an exploit where you could give away the provinces of your war allies even if they were not occupied (you should only be able to give away your own unoccupied provinces)
- Unit movement lock can no longer be bypassed by issuing another move order.
- Fixed artillery models for several different unit packs to have the correct infantry model accompanying it.
- Lowered cost of diplomatic annexation from 10 to 8 dip points per development (since there's more ways to decrease adm cost)
- Autonomy from diploannexation is now 60 (down from 75)
- Fixes issues using the MacBook trackpad when interacting with the map on OSX.
- Fixed a CTD in AI province conquest weight calculation
- Fixed a CTD related to rebels in uncolonized provinces
- Game no longer crashes when forcing nations with subjects to revoke claims.
- Save games saved in 1.12 no longer cause CTDs in 1.11 (only applies to saves made after this hotfix is applied)
- The '+' key should now increase game speed correctly on US/UK keyboards.
- Fixed issue where foreign Separatists defecting to your country caused your country to act as if it was just released.

Note that we are only considering important fixes and tweaks for hotfixes, so if you have a bug you think should be hotfixed, take a moment and ask yourself whether or not it can wait until the larger bugfixing patch that we'll be releasing later in June.


Why do patches always have bugs?
This is a question we get a lot, along with 'Do you even test your games?', and 'Do you even play your own games?'. The answer is, yes, we play our own games, and yes, we test our games. Loosely calculated, about 2400 man-hours of QA has gone into Common Sense, and before a launch every feature is tested thoroughly. Over the course of the development of 1.12 and Common Sense, approximately 1200 bugs have been fixed by the team.

So why, then, do bugs still get into the release? There are two sides to this, and the first one is math.

As of Tuesday night, we had around 20000 concurrent players. If we assume that those 20000 people each play 2 hours that night, that is 40000 hours of play. In order to have equivalent QA test hours to only 2 hours of play on a release night, we would need a team of 30 full-time QA. Scenarios that only happen once every 10000 games will realistically never happen for our QA, and when you factor in that those 20000 players have 20000 different hardware setups... you can begin to see why things like the game not launching on a single core computer (we do not have a single core computer in QA because they haven't been making them for over half a decade) or the engine upgrade breaking mac trackpads (we did not have a mac trackpad in QA, we now do and will use to test future versions) happen.

That's one side of the coin. The other side of the coin is priority.

It's always our ambition to release new expansions without bugs in the new features, and for this reason we consider newly introduced bugs higher priority than older ones. We haven't always done a great job of this in the past, but 1.12/Common Sense had a much lower bug count in new features than previous expansions. There were however, a couple immediately apparent issues, particularly the fact that movement locking did not work at all. You might reasonably ask yourself how such a thing slipped through QA. The answer: It didn't.

The movement locking bug was introduced in the very last build we made for release, as a result of fixing another bug where ZoCs would create weird movement paths. It was only found after the build was done and smoke tested (smoke testing is basically a thorough 'does the game actually run' test that we do on anything we release to the public). Given that we had no other serious known issues at the time, I made the call that the issue was not serious enough to warrant spending another half a day making a new build and testing that build. QA found the issue, I chose not to fix it because the time spent making a new build could be better spent working on our back log of older bugs, and I figured that we'd have to make a hotfix anyway due to the risk for technical issues appearing with the engine upgrade.

The simple fact of it is that we are probably never going to have a launch that doesn't introduce at least one or two serious technical issues, because we do not, and cannot test the game on the thousands and thousands of different hardware configurations that will be playing the game the moment we set the patch live. The measure of a successful launch, in my book, is not that there are no bugs, but rather that there are no serious bugs which could reasonably have been caught by our internal testing.

Do I expect this explanation to change much? Not really, because I think people like easy explanations, and 'Paradox does not even test their expansions' is a much easier explanation than 'In a complex piece of software you will always have some bugs no matter how much QA you do', 'Fixing bugs can introduce new bugs' and 'Not all bugs are worth grinding development to a halt in order to fix'.

Nonetheless, for those who wish to know, there it is.
 
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Also, just because it wouldn't be a DD if I didn't tantalize you guys a little bit.

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(We decided to use one of our unused tags for it, since removing tags can't really be done without busting save games anyway.)
 
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Can everyone relax for a bit now please. Clearly Paradox have things under control.
 
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I had hoped for an additional diplomat in the hotfix, but the dip-cost lowering is well appreciated as well!

Not in hotfix, but we're releasing a larger patch later in June that will have +1 diplomat for all rank 2+ countries and +1 free leader for all rank 3+ countries (keep in mind you don't have to have Common Sense to be rank 2).
 
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It is clear things, as a QA manager, I can only advice you some practices, which you already know, may be :)
May be it is good idea to make preorder available for EU DLC (and others) and give beta-test acces for people who bought preorder? (thats give you prerelease user testing whith loyal players, who will be sure that game is not finish and bugs - normal thigs)
You have a huge people resource who want to get quality product, and want to help, but I think you didn't use it at all.

Sorry for bad english.

If we're going to pre-release it to such a large amount of people that we will find all technical issues, then there is no actual difference from a real release.
 
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Speaking about fans feedback. I've noticed that the devs regularly comment suggestions from the fans in the main forum. However there is not a single dev comment in the suggestion sub-forum (which is created for such things) since many weeks. So, is the quality of the suggestions so different or is the suggestion sub-forum just not observed closely by the devs recently?

I read most threads there but rarely comment. Same with other devs.
 
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Nice insight into the bug fixing process.

I'd guess that the hot heads will always rage after a new patch is released but the majority of people reading the forums are glad that you're communicating more openly.

I'd also recommend not replying to rage topics since there's no point. Closing the topics seems more appropriate for admins/developers, otherwise we get things like the famous "no" reply, which is a sort of mini-PR blunder ;)
 
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Hotfix won't be coming out today, unfortunately. We'll aim to have it up as soon as it possible tomorrow. One of the issues (related to mods and steam workshop) turned out to be much harder to fix than we thought.
 
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but why not just delay the release then? 1-2 week of wait couldnt hurt?

Delaying the expansion would not have mattered for the technical problems, and we probably wouldn't have found any of the rare 1-in-1000 games (like rebels defecting) issues in such a span of time either... and if we'd spent that time fixing lower priority bugs we'd run the risk of introducing new, more serious problems. You only delay a release if you have known issues that are serious enough to warrant a delay. We didn't.
 
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Wiz, just wanted to say thanks for getting on this as quickly as possible.

I am, however, still considering a boycott of Paradox for two reasons:
1) I was forced to study for the bar instead of playing EUIV for at least two days this week, inadvertently causing me to learn the difference between easements appurtenant and easements in gross, inter alia.
2) Now that the fix is in, so to speak, I'm off to attend a thoroughly ill-advised wedding and will be unable to enjoy the new features for the entire weekend. I will, however, accept an apology provided you

a) produce a note I can deliver to bride and groom permitting me to play EUIV while they go on and on about how they're meant for each other (studiously avoiding the fact that the groom is a scumbag who will run around on the bride as soon as practicable
b) produce a note I can deliver to my friends when describing what I'm doing in EUIV, effectively cutting off any complaints they may proffer, including but not limited to, "this is boring," "please stop telling me about a video game," "you are aware you're at a work function right"?
 
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Savoy, differently from all other Italian states, was part of the Imperial Circle system and a member of the Upper Rhenish Circle (Wikipedia is not an ideal source, but here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Rhenish_Circle). Differently from all Italian states, they provided troops for their circle's Imperial troop contingent, paid the Kammerzieler (the Imperial tax), they (as only Italian state) had a seat and vote in the Imperial Diet. Their status and relationship with the HRE was not the same as that of, say, Tuscany or Lombardia.

Fair enough. I guess we could have the Savoy AI have a chance to remain in the Empire to represent this, but we still want them out in most cases simply because otherwise they block France from going into Italy.
 
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Wait do you not get Empire rank when you become Emperor? I mean... it's kind of in the name.

You're an Emperor, but your country is not an Empire because you are Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, not Emperor of Austria etc
 
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And there are also the additional hours played by beta testers. :p

For sure! Our betas are very important for the more 'regular' play they do compared to QA's more focused testing, and some important issues before launch might not have been caught without them.
 
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I've been holding off on playing 1.12 until now, since I was waiting for the inevitable hotfix, but now that the suicidal AI and the bug with rebels resetting your country have been fixed, I'm looking forward to playing it!

The hotfix isn't out yet as it needs to be tested. We expect to have it out today or tomorrow.
 
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So you saw enough warrant in Florence, then! Which tag was removed/replaced to make way for it, though?

Lancaster.

Honestly I'm still not convinced about its utility, but since so many people seem to want it, and we couldn't delete the Lancaster tag... I figured why not.
 
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That's very unfortunate. I've basically given up on the sub-forum entirely for the sole reason that there are almost no replies by the devs to the posts. I'm probably not the only one.

I keep reading it through once every month for new ideas ..
 
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Still no reply on whether this rebel system will remain...

We're looking at it. I don't think it's nearly as bad as people think, but we definitely need to explain the ZoC protection against rebels and possibly make some tweaks (a timer before rebels cause siege effects in provinces or the like).
 
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There will either be a hotfix or a beta hotfix today, depending on whether we have time to test it properly.
 
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