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Welcome to another development diary about Europa Universalis. Now we are very close to the announcement of the new expansion that we aim to release in June... If Frö smiles upon us....

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We have switched around what we will talk about in the development diaries for now, so today we’ll instead talk about Peace!

But first of all, lets talk about a feature that is something that some have requested..

Return Province!
Sometimes you have taken a province that is the core of a rival, or someone who do not want to buy the province, or even talk to you as you are so evil.. Not that we would ever be warmongering-alliance-breaking-world-conquerers..


Now you can just return the province to any state that has it as a core. You will lose some Agressive Expansion and prestige, but it will definitely reduce the chance of them attacking you in the short-term.


Peace Overhaul

This is obviously something that is in the accomanying patch.

First of all, we removed the treaty called annex.




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Well, instead we are now able to target every province an enemy own, so taking all provinces is an annexation.

You will also always be able to demand the capital in a peace treaty, and you also do not need to occupy territory to demand it in peace, however unoccupied territory is more expensive to claim.

Revoking cores will no longer cost diplomatic power.

Diplomatic Power Cost, War Score Costs and Prestige gain for each province now scale with the province’s development, instead of being fixed costs.

Overextension and Agressive Expansion also looks at development instead of base tax.

And finally, you’ll be able to demand gold even while “annexing”.

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How is it that so many people can't recognize Charles V, he is literally the best Holy Roman Emperor/King of Spain ever, ever hear the Holy Roman Emperor or King of Spain mentioned in an important part of history that was likely Charles V, who was King of Spain during the time of Cortez and the wars in Mexico, Charles V, who was the Holy Roman Emperor who met Martin Luther at the Diet of Worms, Charles V

Also he has a classical Hapsburg jaw, so it should have been clear he was at least a Hapsburg

Small DD today but important stuff, I especially like the capital change, the Ottomans were the classic example of why this made little to no sense, playing as Byzantium or anyone really and wanting to kick the Ottomans out of Greece and back across the Sea of Marmars its was literally impossible to do without taking land in Anatolia first which was not land I wanted and really didn't make my boarders look good. also prevents the silly situation where there is a 2 province nations but u can't get a CB on them because u boarder the capital and nothing else so you can't fabricate, There are some other examples, mainly the Genoese mission to claim Tunis

I'm slightly worried about the AI interacting with this new ability to request the ceding of any province but other than that seems like a good change, hopefully next week we can here about this subject changes you promised or maybe even get a stream about the new DLC this tuesday?
 
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Nice, although this DD is a bit on the short side. Am I right in assuming that Burgundy now has 3 unions and 1 vassal?
 

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So, do we also get a mid 16th century balanced bookmark? Beause that's when stuff started to get interesting in the 16th century.
 
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Heck yes! I haven't played EU4 since before the recent DLC, now I'll definitely give it a go with these new growable provinces! Gives it more of an RPG feel finally and not some MS Paint 2k15 simulator feel!
 
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By the way, what happens if you're on the receiving end of the capital loss? Do you get to pick your new capital manually, or does the system arbitrarily roll a new one for you? If it's the latter, what are the conditions the RNG takes into account? I would assume development level, primary culture (if any non-occupied primary culture provinces exist), and, potentially, proximity to the border (in case of blobbier nations), but getting some specifics would be nice. Quite relevant for multiplayer.
 
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How is it that so many people can't recognize Charles V, he is literally the best Holy Roman Emperor/King of Spain ever, ever hear the Holy Roman Emperor or King of Spain mentioned in an important part of history that was likely Charles V, who was King of Spain during the time of Cortez and the wars in Mexico, Charles V, who was the Holy Roman Emperor who met Martin Luther at the Diet of Worms, Charles V

Also he has a classical Hapsburg jaw, so it should have been clear he was at least a Hapsburg

I think that people at historical games forums seem to generally overvalue knowledge of history, sometime in an almost arrogant way (not implying the case this case). I agree knwoledge about the hapsburg are important and Charles Realm illustrate it quite nicely. Learning this is usefull and I remember having it in school myself. But recognizing the protraits of specific (and rather plain looking) kings? The hapsburg jaw? This is honetly just not important.
 
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Thank you so much guys :)
The Expansion is so big already, i can´t even comprehend all the changes!
It is going to be a whole new game, and a good one at that.
Also Thank you for including the suggestions about peace treaties as promised a few weeks ago ;)
 
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More religious favor check, better peace deals check, this is going to be good:)
 

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How is it that so many people can't recognize Charles V, he is literally the best Holy Roman Emperor/King of Spain ever, ever hear the Holy Roman Emperor or King of Spain mentioned in an important part of history that was likely Charles V, who was King of Spain during the time of Cortez and the wars in Mexico, Charles V, who was the Holy Roman Emperor who met Martin Luther at the Diet of Worms, Charles V

Also he has a classical Hapsburg jaw, so it should have been clear he was at least a Hapsburg
I think that people at historical games forums seem to generally overvalue knowledge of history, sometime in an almost arrogant way (not implying the case this case). I agree knwoledge about the hapsburg are important and Charles Realm illustrate it quite nicely. Learning this is usefull and I remember having it in school myself. But recognizing the protraits of specific (and rather plain looking) kings? The hapsburg jaw? This is honetly just not important.
Not to mention, sometimes the history classes in school don't really cover the specifics all that well, and even if they do, it tends to be along the lines of "cram, exam, forget". When I was a little kid, I was quite interested in history. School killed that interest. Paradox games revived it ;) Gradually catching up and learning tidbits here and there (even in this very thread!) is quite fun. No need to be judgmental.
 
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Well, at least to me, the guy gives off a Spanish vibe. Not sure why, especially considering the colonizers aren't the focus this time around.

He's Charles V, King of Spain and Holy Roman Emperor.
 

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Finally I can take Edirne as Byzantium at the first war!

Don't worry, a quick bugfix patch will be able to change that. Can't have those OP Byzzies running around.
 
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This is going to be exploited:

It's going to be used to get provinces you normally can't reach, often as a way to get a foothold on an island.
Example: France doesn't have to deal with allying Scotland, and can instead just demand a province in Great Britain and start the next war with a doomstack present there...

It's good that capitals can be taken now. Hopefully it'll be possible to make claims there as well.

Yes, this is a potential issue... And a BIG one. Now everyone will want t ograb stuff from Portugal to colonize faster...

The changes are so big that it makes me wonder why start a game now. Any ETA for the patch?
 

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Shame, looks like Burgundy's in a bit of trouble there...

Do we know yet what Burgundy's starting subjects will be? Just speculation for now? Will Holland be independent?