EU4 - Development Diary - 7th April 2016

[Milith]

Well, you'll start running up against the state limit, too, given the natural tendency to focus on trade provinces; they tend to be in different states. I suspect the devs want MRs to feel both the fixed province cap and the (tech/govt sensitive) State constraints.

You start with 15 states and a 20 province soft cap. I don't think you will ever feel the state limit if you want to stay under the 20 provinces. You can have all of the Genoa, Sevilla, Alexandria, Ragusa trade centers with only 11 states and that's already a butload of money.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

- Fixed Threaten War could be used during Regency.

Can you also fix regency itself please? It's hard with how frequently it seems to result in my game crashing to desktop. Once I reload I can play it again, but it still seems to happen pretty often; regency ---> game stops progressing ---> task manager to resolve the issue.

Actually you DO play as the king. These are still mostly absolute monarchies in this era. The difference is the focus of the game. You aren't focused on your dynasty, like in CK2, you are focused on running a nation. Until you get to Constitutional Monarchy the power structure of these nations are still highly centralized in hands of a single ruler.

Your argument is inconsistent with your argument. If the focus of the game abstracts the ruler to that extent where you don't have agency regarding regency councils, removing agency of war declarations does not hold.

"The difference is the focus of the game" is a concession. Your burden in this case is demonstrating the gameplay utility of the mechanic. So far, even the developers have failed to do that, but maybe you can do better .

 

[grommile]

If they add autosave on monarch death and remove the backup saves I'll find another way to bypass it or just stop playing ironman. I'd rather not give up on a functional mechanic entirely though.

I use local saves and copy them at key points to deal with defective design and implementation.

 

[sunder77]

Like what? Tell me, Mr. Sunder77, what he could have done instead of speed 5 while going to go make something to eat.

Absorb vassals, generate claims in preparation for when the regency ends, colonize, several other things that don't require a war dec.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

It's a game and crap happens. People play multiple restarts of games because something screwy happens. Even 200+ years into the game. It doesn't mean the game mechanics are broken or need removed.

Actually, no. Being unable to play the game is the opposite of it being a game.

A Regency Council is a strict reduction in the amount of gameplay available to me, which I have no reasonable in-game mechanism to hedge against. (I have an out-of-game mechanism: kill -9 `pidof eu4`.)

Pretty much. When you stop being able to play the game, the task manager comes to the rescue. But I'd rather the issue be fixed.

 

[brifbates]

I have to laugh at the anti-Regency Council crowd. Do you clowns cheat ironman when other bad stuff happens too? OMG, my 6/6/6 general just died in a 9-1 blowout!!! Reload! Crap, I got a 0/0/0 heir! Reload!. Wow, I lost that battle? WTF, Reload...

Bad stuff happens, deal with it. (Also, I kind of like his suggestion that the ai can declare wars for you during a regency, using the typical ai logic of course. Add it as an option that doesn't affect ironman status for the whiners. I'd happily never check the box because I can deal with "15 years of speed 5 AFKing at peace" but let them have their wars.)

So now Russia will not be able to make Siberia state etc?

It already can. You just can't currently make it a state "while you have a colony in the area" which can be a little annoying once you get multiple colonies up and running as the first finishes but is stuck as a territory while another colony exists in that area.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

I have to laugh at the anti-Regency Council crowd. Do you clowns cheat ironman when other bad stuff happens too? OMG, my 6/6/6 general just died in a 9-1 blowout!!! Reload! Crap, I got a 0/0/0 heir! Reload!. Wow, I lost that battle? WTF, Reload...

Bad stuff happens, deal with it. (Also, I kind of like his suggestion that the ai can declare wars for you during a regency, using the typical ai logic of course. Add it as an option that doesn't affect ironman status for the whiners. I'd happily never check the box because I can deal with "15 years of speed 5 AFKing at peace" but let them have their wars.)



It already can. You just can't currently make it a state "while you have a colony in the area" which can be a little annoying once you get multiple colonies up and running as the first finishes but is stuck as a territory while another colony exists in that area.

I see 3 paragraphs, but none addressing the points levied against regency councils. Care to do so?

 

[Jorlem]

Speaking of localization, the inherit Burgundy (as Reichsnation), has the buttons "Leave it be." and "Missing Localizaton!" in the english version

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The exclamation mark there makes this far funnier than it should be.

 

[szmik]

This DD says a lot about Paradox interest in product quality.

I would love to see DLC/patch not needing hotfix the day after.

 

[Sian]

Any change that the historical neutral tag -100 to aliances between Portugal and Aragon is going to get fixed in this patch?

I suggest you read 3rd line from the bottom.

 

[Sian]

Is there any chance that Corruption off Religious Unity could be scaled somewhat as well? ... for an example Pate starts out with 0% Religious unity so they start with +.5 Corruption until they manage to convert their capital

 

[CoolSquid]

No one force you to raze. Raze as much as you can afford.

People payed for razing. They should be able to use it without breaking everything.

 

[Promanco]

NOOOOOOOOOOO MY PURPLE ARAGONESE TROOPS!

 

[Jorlem]

Yes.

I don't know who sneaked that in.

Would you be willing to add that bit about razing RR to the OP? This is something that people shouldn't need to dig through the thread to learn, in my opinion.

 

[Oogh]

Glad I have not started serious games and just a tester. Will wait until patch drops tomorrow to play over weekend. Good to see a patch so fast to change glaring issues/ complaints. Good stuff

Standard MO from paradox with all major DLC. We pay for the privilege of being betatesters.
Has there been any release that didn't need a hotfix right after release?

 

[Kwami]

And what happens to the sailors that were manning the previous ship?

I said before that the entire system didn't make sense. But, so long as the "upgrade ship" button is meant to be only a convenience feature, I see no other way to make it work.

 

[grommile]

Absorb vassals, generate claims in preparation for when the regency ends, colonize, several other things that don't require a war dec.

All of which consist 100% of waiting... and all of which can be done while I'm fighting wars. (OK, I have to spend a day at peace to initiate subject annexation.)

A Regency Council is a strict reduction in the amount of gameplay available to me, which I have no reasonable in-game mechanism to hedge against. (I have an out-of-game mechanism: kill -9 `pidof eu4`.)

 

[zach6844]

I'm gonna miss the Regicide event. that was fun times.

 

[Milith]

- Root Out Corruption is now based on your development, not your income.

With the way development now yields diminishing returns once you run out of states, this could severely impact blobbing starting from the mid game to the point where it becomes impossible to core land without using vassals. It does make money ideas a bit more attractive though, which is a good thing.

Anyway I'm glad you guys are open to tweaking corruption, let's see how this plays out.

 

[bbqftw]

It could go either way, but yeah, the 'tall players' will be happy with it. We'll need to see how it plays out in regards to wide players though; I feel like there's a point where your state count won't keep up with your development speed and thus you'll hit points where your development count outscales your ability to put down your corruption due to inability to generate enough money from your increase in development.

Which, I mean, might be a good thing in the very long run, but in the current state of the game I refuse to believe that's a good thing since this game isn't exactly interesting or enjoyable to play if you're not blobbing.

I'm just more shocked that something like this comes out in the day after the patch. Its such a change on a fundamental level.