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EU4 - Development Diary - 30th of May 2017

Good day all, Tuesday is ever a day for excitement as tensions and plotting surface in the office in the runup to another Dev Clash session. Today however feel free to tune in an hour earlier, as we'll be having a special wee stream for Third Rome itself.

For now though, we're going to talk about features available not only for Russians, but the Orthodox world at large: Metropolitans and Icons.

Patriarch Authority has been a game concept for Orthodox nations since time immemorial, or at least since release. While it's effects have been tweaked a little over the game's lifespan, sadly it has remained somewhat stale in that you wait for events to push it up or down. We've decided to revisit this mechanic to give it more life for Third Rome.

Patriarch Authority will still grant meaty bonuses to Unrest suppression, Missionary Strength and Manpower but it can now be spent to commission new Icons for your nation. Orthodox nations across the globe will be able to make a call against the longlasting effects of high Patriarch Authority against a strong temporary bonus granted from commissioning an Icon.

Icons.jpg


Commissioning an Icon will cost 10 Patriarch Authority and will grant that icon's bonuses for your nation for 20 years. You can at any time switch your Icon out for another at a cost of a further 10 PA, or just wait for them to run their course. Each Icon's effects are as follows:

Code:
            icon_michael = {
                discipline = 0.05
                manpower_recovery_speed = 0.1

            icon_eleusa = {
                global_unrest = -3
                harsh_treatment_cost = -0.25


            icon_pancreator = {
                development_cost = -0.10
                build_cost = -0.1

            icon_nicholas = {
                improve_relation_modifier = 0.25
                ae_impact = -0.1


            icon_climacus = {
                global_institution_spread = 0.25
                embracement_cost = -0.2

So a lot of flexibility is offered to the Ambitious Orthodox nation willing to part with some of their Patriarch Authority. Sources of Authority were, however, few and mercilessly random, so we have added a new State ability for followers of the Orthodox faith: Consecrate Metropolitan.

Metropolitan.jpg


In any well developed (30+) State where your religion is in all provinces and cultures are accepted, you can Consecrate a Metropolitan. This will permanently grant a reduction to Devastation at the cost of slightly increased State Maintenance, but when used will bestow +5 Patriarch Authority. Any Orthodox nation can do this, but it plays particularly well into the Tsardom's hands with their increased State limit, allowing them to have more Metropolitans and boost up their Patriarch Authority further.

Both Metropolitans and Icons are features of Third Rome, our upcoming Immersion Pack for EU4. Next week I want to go over some of the changes coming along with v1.22. See you then!
 

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Since Russia is the focus of this immersion pack, PDX should take some inspiration from Hearts of Iron III and have all countries with a primary culture in the East Slavic group have their name on the map spelled out in faux Cyrillic:

MФSCФVЧ

TVЗЯ

PSKФV

ПФVGФЯФD

ЯЧДZДП

ЧДЯФSLДVL
 

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What about CK2 converted saves with Iconoclasm ? They were against any kinds of icons. Will they get same mechanic or the old one ?

A CK2 Dev is taking care of this, not the EU4 team. since having only PA would make them too weak, I'll guess that they will be getting the Fervor mechanic.
 

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Since Russia is the focus of this immersion pack, PDX should take some inspiration from Hearts of Iron III and have all countries with a primary culture in the East Slavic group have their name on the map spelled out in faux Cyrillic:

MФSCФVЧ

TVЗЯ

PSKФV

ПФVGФЯФD

ЯЧДZДП

ЧДЯФSLДVL
But....it's ridiculous?
 

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Since Russia is the focus of this immersion pack, PDX should take some inspiration from Hearts of Iron III and have all countries with a primary culture in the East Slavic group have their name on the map spelled out in faux Cyrillic:

MФSCФVЧ

TVЗЯ

PSKФV

ПФVGФЯФD

ЯЧДZДП

ЧДЯФSLДVL

Or maybe actual Cyrillic:

(Russian / Serbian)
МОСКВА / МОСКВА
ТВЕРЬ / ТВЕР
ПСКОВ / ПСКОВ
НОВГОРОД / НОВГОРОД
РЯЗАНЬ / РЈАЗАН
ЯРОСЛАВЛЬ / ЈАРОСЛАВЉ

I write and read Cyrillic, Latin and Futharc scripts, and really had trouble finding out Ryazan and Yaroslavl in faux script....
 

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Are consecrate metropolitan a one time boost? I.e. if you use the PA will you then need to consecrate other metropolitans or hope for the event to get it back up?
 

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It would be nice if the icon could actually be seen throughout gameplay. Otherwise the (conceptual) icon that you have chosen is the only (computer) icon that can't be seen! Maybe it could be displayed in the bar that supplies important notices (the only where royal marriage requests appear). Players could always right-click to dismiss it.
 

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Or maybe we can just keep using English/<your supported tongue here> instead of making an exception for one region of the world.
 

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Why do not make authority from the Metropolitan monthly growth? Consecrate a Metropolita in state with 10 developed. Every 5 developed in state - 0,0025 PA per month. It's more realistic and believable
 

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It looks great but I think the metropolitan buff should be changed. My internal states with 30 dev provinces rarely get devastated, certainly not often enough to justify increased state maintenance. And the 5 PA just means I'm trading a permanent loss of cash for a one time boost. I think it would be better to have metropolitans give a small monthly tick to patriarchal authority.
 

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So what is the problem with American Dream DLC?

The DLC is meant for a 1776 start, but its events can still fire for a USA that formed earlier in an earlier start date, since the events are not meant for this earlier start it leads to weird/awkward situations where the US will get bonuses or relation changes that dont make sense in context of that game. Many people believe that the events should Also be for earlier USA formations (which isnt the DLC's intent) and thus say its broken.

In a nutshell, the DLC is working as Paradox intended, for a 1776 start, but "dosent work" as most players use it, a USA formed in a game from an earlier start.

Wait, you need that particular startdate to get the events? You can't get them starting by 1444 and then playing as the colonial nation and then becoming the USA? Darn, I was just working on a non-ironman game to play as the USA, partly for those events.

You can, its just awkward when you get events for relations with the UK and such if that isnt how your USA formed
 

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Should there be Orthodox clergy ranks? Metropolitan, Patriarchate, and Most Holy Synod? The Synod would be like a hybriad Parliament/Holy See for each country. Duchies would have access to Metropolitans, Kingdoms would have access to Patriarchates, and Empires would have access to their own Most Holy Synods. To gain favor in the Synod you would have to please the Metropolitans/Patriarchates just as you do with Parliament seats in England. You rack up points and buy national benefits like if it were the Holy See.
 

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The DLC is meant for a 1776 start, but its events can still fire for a USA that formed earlier in an earlier start date, since the events are not meant for this earlier start it leads to weird/awkward situations where the US will get bonuses or relation changes that dont make sense in context of that game. Many people believe that the events should Also be for earlier USA formations (which isnt the DLC's intent) and thus say its broken.

In a nutshell, the DLC is working as Paradox intended, for a 1776 start, but "dosent work" as most players use it, a USA formed in a game from an earlier start.



You can, its just awkward when you get events for relations with the UK and such if that isnt how your USA formed
I think there is also the issue of having removed the specific government the US had (don't remember the exact names: federal republic and ? republic). But yeah the DLC works for a 1776 start but not for a 1444 one.