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Hello, and welcome back to Europa Universalis IV. Last week we talked about features, where most of them will be in the free update, but todays feature will all be part of the next expansion.

First of all, I’d like to mention that we are adding a new government form called English Monarchy, which England will start with. It will give +0.5 Legitimacy, -1 Unrest, -0.1 Monthly Autonomy and give them access to a Parliament.

So what is a Parliament? It is a new mechanic that Constitutional Monarchies & Constitutional Republics has as well. A Parliament is a political body inside your country, which will have debates that if they pass will give you benefits for a decade.

There is quite a lot of different possible debates, and you are allowed to pick one of five random eligible ones.

To have a debate pass, you need to have a majority of the seats backing the issue. Of course, when an debate is started, all seats are against it, and you need to convince them to back it.

Every Seat of Parliament will have their own reasons you must fullfill to have them back an issue, and their reasons will be different for each issue. A coastal Seat of Parliament may want to be Granted Navy commissions, which reduces your naval tradition, while another Seat may want monetary compensation, while another want some military support, or a fourth want some more autonomy. Luckily, you only have to get half of them to support you to get the debate passed.

Any non-overseas province can be granted a Seat in Parliament and your capital will always have a Seat. There is no way to remove a seat in Parliament, unless the province is lost.

A Seat gets +10% to tax, production & manpower, while reducing autonomy by 0.01 per month. However each Seat increases stability & war-exhaustion costs by 2%.

You are also required to grant at least of 20% of your non-overseas cores a Seat in Parliament, and if you have less than that, one random will be picked for you. There is alert if less than a third of your non-overseas cores have a Seat.

If there is no current debate, nor any active benefits of an issue, you will slowly lose legitimacy & republican tradition. And if a debate fails, you will lose 20 prestige, so it is not the end of the world, but its not something you want to happen all the time.

Here are three examples of current issues that can be pushed through your parliament.

Backing the War Effort is available if you are at war, and will give you +1 stability when passed, and a 10 year benefit of -0.05 War Exhaustion, and +10% Manpower recovery

Charter Colonies
is available if you have either filled the Expansion or Exloration ideagroup, and gives a +10 year benefit of +1 colonist and +20 colonial growth.

Increase Taxes
will give you about 1/4th of a years income, and increase your tax-income by 10% for 10 years.

Of course, all of these values will change the more we playtest it.

Only countries with Parliaments will get a button, opening the Parliament View, near the Papacy & HRE buttons. And yes, the button you talked about last week, in the province interface, is the one indicating if its a seat of parliament or not.

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Next week, we'll focus on why we build walls.
 

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I'm really not a fun of all this exclusive content made for single countries and nobody else (e.g., Poland, Netherlands, England). It seems to imply that only those countries had super special snowflake traits that nobody else did, and the rest of the world is homogenous in comparison. That's ridiculous since in reality every single country has its own quirks and traditions and could have its own unique government form according to EU4 logic, but of course they never will because they're not popular enough. Making these governments available to RoTW would give more content to depth to everyone, but instead PDS likes to give super narrow and arbitrary depth to the "chosen ones".
This one isn't only for England.
 

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I'm really not a fun of all this exclusive content made for single countries and nobody else (e.g., Poland, Netherlands, England). It seems to imply that only those countries had super special snowflake traits that nobody else did, and the rest of the world is homogenous in comparison. That's ridiculous since in reality every single country has its own quirks and traditions and could have its own unique government form according to EU4 logic, but of course they never will because they're not popular enough. Making these governments available to RoTW would give more content to depth to everyone, but instead PDS likes to give super narrow and arbitrary depth to the "chosen ones".
I find this kind of sentiment detrimental to the game experience. General features grow boring fast, while unique ones offer more diverse gameplay. England is the most played nation and 10 most played nations make up 60% of all games played (statistics released by Johan one day, no, I will not search for a link). I'd rather have a DLC that gives 3 nations unique mechanics than one that gives 3 generic mechanics to all, since that means 3 unique games to play before the next DLC (I almost never manage more) rather than 1 unique game followed by 2 samey ones.
 
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I find this kind of sentiment detrimental to the game experience. General features grow boring fast, while unique ones offer more diverse gameplay. England is the most played nation and 10 most played nations make up 60% of all games played (statistics released by Johan one day, no, I will not search for a link). I'd rather have a DLC that gives 3 nations unique mechanics than one that gives 3 generic mechanics to all, since that means 3 unique games to play before the next DLC (I almost never manage more) rather than 1 unique game followed by 2 samey ones.

Something that people seem to be missing about this upcoming parliament system is that it is not unique to England, it is available to constitutional monarchies and republics, so every country has access to it, you just have to wait and I agree with you, if the devs opened up all of the flavour features (like governments) of EUIV to all countries, there ceases to be flavour any more.

Here are the links in case anyone is interested, they are fairly out of date but I would imagine not much has changed. I would love to get another update on this type of stuff.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-playerstats.757556/
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/some-playing-statistics-july-2014.789135/
 

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It's a good step forward. But it wasn't that difficult. I mean, you have already the perfect Parliamentary system. Just take the EU: Rome's one and adapt it to EU IV. EU Rome's Senate was an awesome feature that gave you a LOT of peace time gamplay. This system looks too symplistic to me. You just choose a feature in exchange for a penalty to gain support. But apparently you don't actually interact with the parliament and its factions, leader factions and members as you did in EU Rome's Senate. There should be factions like liberals and conservatives or something like that (instead of the 4 factions that there were in Rome) to make it realistic. And as many have pointed out, it should be tied to things like policies, DIPLOMACY (important in my view), EVENTS (chain of events, that is basic), maybe ideas, national decisions, religious, etc.

With only fulfilling that, you could make a hole expansion out of this parliamentary thing.

This ! I so loved this mechanic ! I saw someone proposing a Faction kind of Parliament, though EU:Rome's system helps having both a general faction view but also a seat view much like The in-game Curia (my best comparison right now, sorry :p). I know we have some time before it happens but I would be such a happy ruler !
 
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I really do want more domestic activity in general. If this was a concept to give everyone factions to appease in general I'd be more keen on it. As it is it looks like it'll be pretty chill. UK has 3 significant cultures, and 1-2 insignificant ones in the homeland. That sounds pretty chill. I like playing England, but I don't see how this will change much for them as the player.

I fully intend to exclude the irish for RP reasons. I always like trying to piss them off and make them rebel. I even try to leave them catholic, but the stupid reformation thing converts them for me. Same for Scotland when they actually go Reformed once in a blue moon. If the unrepresented Irish could kick out my missionaries and reformation center's influence, I'd be so happy. Of course you'd need some way to instruct the reformation center to stop targeting a province. Those things are ridiculous.

Having to deal with the Sejm as Poland or the Reichstag as Emperor would likely be more difficult and interesting.

I am curious how nations select governments though. I haven't paid much attention to "constitutional ________" before now. I'm looking forward to the USA giving representatives to the two dozen native cultures they gain from conquest.
 

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It's a good step forward. But it wasn't that difficult. I mean, you have already the perfect Parliamentary system. Just take the EU: Rome's one and adapt it to EU IV. EU Rome's Senate was an awesome feature that gave you a LOT of peace time gamplay. This system looks too symplistic to me. You just choose a feature in exchange for a penalty to gain support. But apparently you don't actually interact with the parliament and its factions, leader factions and members as you did in EU Rome's Senate. There should be factions like liberals and conservatives or something like that (instead of the 4 factions that there were in Rome) to make it realistic. And as many have pointed out, it should be tied to things like policies, DIPLOMACY (important in my view), EVENTS (chain of events, that is basic), maybe ideas, national decisions, religious, etc.

With only fulfilling that, you could make a hole expansion out of this parliamentary thing.

This ! I so loved this mechanic ! I saw someone proposing a Faction kind of Parliament, though EU:Rome's system helps having both a general faction view but also a seat view much like The in-game Curia (my best comparison right now, sorry :p). I know we have some time before it happens but I would be such a happy ruler !

Frankly, I think that the system from the diary is not really meant to represent parliaments as a whole, but rather upper houses of parliaments. I agree that the Rome's system could be a nice addition. The system from this dev diary could be limited just to England and Constitutional Monarchies while some of the republics (Constitutional and Revolutionary ones in particular) could get a Rome-like system.

By the way, could we get the codename for this expansion released? We should have some name for it, to be able to discuss it without having to use the phrase "the next DLC".
 
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Frankly, I think that the system from the diary is not really meant to represent parliaments as a whole, but rather upper houses of parliaments. I agree that the Rome's system could be a nice addition. The system from this dev diary could be limited just to England and Constitutional Monarchies while some of the republics (Constitutional and Revolutionary ones in particular) could get a Rome-like system.

By the way, could we get the codename for this expansion released? We should have some name for it, to be able to discuss it without having to use the phrase "the next DLC".

Well I would have to disagree on that ;)
Especially on England's case, which is the country most affected here. For what my memory is worth, the House of Lords (Upper House) is all about peerage (and bishops). The mechanics of actually having to represent at least a percentage of your country in the Parliament would relate more to the Commons (Lower House) and its boroughs. That's one of the reasons I also thought that granting seats to CN was a good idea (through an event).
 
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Why the disagrees? Or Perhaps only England can have a especial goverment?

It's not a preference for England I think, but from what I read the Courts had their powers reduced by the Catholic Monarchs to merely agreeing with the rulers and have a say on taxation, which can be depicted with autonomy. It would be a bit redundant.
 
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I find this kind of sentiment detrimental to the game experience. General features grow boring fast, while unique ones offer more diverse gameplay.

Unique gameplay is great, but it can feel like wasted effort if the devs spend a lot of time on some tag you don't want to play. This seems like a good balance between the mechanics being available to all, while still making England's gameplay unique.
 
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Something that people seem to be missing about this upcoming parliament system is that it is not unique to England, it is available to constitutional monarchies and republics, so every country has access to it, you just have to wait and I agree with you, if the devs opened up all of the flavour features (like governments) of EUIV to all countries, there ceases to be flavour any more.

Here are the links in case anyone is interested, they are fairly out of date but I would imagine not much has changed. I would love to get another update on this type of stuff.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-playerstats.757556/
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/some-playing-statistics-july-2014.789135/

Whenever there is a sale or a new patch, England shoots up to 20% for about a week. It is the most popular country bar none.
 
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Whenever there is a sale or a new patch, England shoots up to 20% for about a week. It is the most popular country bar none.

As expected to be honest, I bet it is similar with France and Castille? people play what they know I guess.

Would it be possible to get another one of those statistic posts at some point? maybe after the next DLC? I don't know why but I find them super interesting :p
 
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I find this kind of sentiment detrimental to the game experience. General features grow boring fast, while unique ones offer more diverse gameplay. England is the most played nation and 10 most played nations make up 60% of all games played (statistics released by Johan one day, no, I will not search for a link). I'd rather have a DLC that gives 3 nations unique mechanics than one that gives 3 generic mechanics to all, since that means 3 unique games to play before the next DLC (I almost never manage more) rather than 1 unique game followed by 2 samey ones.

I don't disagree with what you're saying in general, but I do with this mechanic. I hate seeing seeing something as fundamental to the era as limited monarchy given such a small part. I'd like to see the mechanic become more fundamental, with other similar governments given their own localisations and modified versions.
 

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Whenever there is a sale or a new patch, England shoots up to 20% for about a week. It is the most popular country bar none.
Wow, really? I never really played as England as it's too easy (and mainstream too :D). I know England is popular but so much...?


Anyway- is parliament only one-sided feature? I mean- it seemingly offers buffs only, while in PLC (I guess it will get parliament as well, right?) it was constant pain in the back for monarchs. I guess that English rulers had their own share of troubles with nobles though (most notably Charles II Stuart).
 

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I'm really not a fun of all this exclusive content made for single countries and nobody else (e.g., Poland, Netherlands, England).

It makes perfect sense if you actually want people to play the game with a new expansion.

When you buy EU you play several games. You probably play a place you're living in now and "interesting" countries like England, France, Castile, Muscowy. Then you hear there are some new mechanics with patch/addon. It may be enough for some people to return to the game and play less popular countries or replay more popular again. But I bet most players didn't even thought to try Native Americans before Conquest of Paradise. And most played their first Netherlands or Poland games after after Res Publica. Addons like Art of War claim they change everything so you should return and play it all over again for everyone you like but those are hard to do and most players need a little help to try countries outside of their comfort zone.

E.g. I'm now having a blast with Morocco thanks to Random Nation button. Morocco has rather unique defensive gameplay with little opportunities for expansion and hungry Portugal and Spain nearby. I wouldn't try it if not for Random Nation button cause if I'd want to play Muslim I'd took Ottomans or maybe Timurids cause they're cool. Most people will never expirience unique Morocco gameplay, but give Morocco mini-DLC and people will get tons of fun out of it even if it doesn't add anything substantial. Even graphical DLCs help with this kind of things.
 

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Wow, really? I never really played as England as it's too easy (and mainstream too :D). I know England is popular but so much...?

I suspect USA players associate themselves with England. Plus it's well defended and easy to play.

Interestingly, it also teaches you to live through losses as it's inevitable new player will lose holdings in France.
 

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I have always found England quite boring, & never played them in any EU version other than a few years game time. Did play them in a mod for EU3 though, which was fun. They are like Japan, another boring country. In game that is, not real life.
 

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I have always found England quite boring, & never played them in any EU version other than a few years game time. Did play them in a mod for EU3 though, which was fun. They are like Japan, another boring country. In game that is, not real life.

By boring you probably mean "the game doesn't throw stuff at you". You just have to look foro opportunities yourself as countries like that.
 

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I agree- for me England is most "generic" (not in terms of flavor ofc) country to play. And since it's rather well developed at start date, it's almost no challenge as well. (sth like France ;) )

EDIT: @up: Quite the opposite actually. Beating Scotland and Ireland is like taking candy from a child. Who's gonna stop me from dominating Isles? No one has strong enough navy to even set foot on shore. And when I'm done with neighbors I can deal with anyone on continent as I please...