EU4 - Development Diary - 26th of October 2021

Hello everyone, and be welcome! In today’s DD we are going to take a look at different topics of the Origins Immersion Pack, and 1.32 patch: the new Judaism mechanics, more new mission trees all along Africa, and the setup changes we’ve done to the region. So, it will be content-heavy, then.

Let’s start with the new Judaism mechanics. It was one major religion lacking mechanics at this point of the game, so we thought that now it would be a good moment to handle it. Semien is the only country that can spawn with Judaism early game, while it can also be adopted by one of the most important countries in Origins, Ethiopia. And on a side note, as it was HEAVILY requested by you in the previous DD, we were reassured that the work would be appreciated!

How we have designed it, Judaism works very similar to Protestantism, as it has 3 slots for Torah Aspects, each one costing 100 points of Faith Power. Those points are gained at a rate of 10% of your monarch points per month, minus a modifier depending on your religious unity.

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Torah Aspects are split into three categories (Administrative, Diplomatic, and Military), and each category has 3 slots to choose from, giving your country some benefits and modifiers, that are fully shown in a tooltip if you hover over them:

ADM Aspects unlock the use of the ‘Celebrate Festival’ button, which has different effects depending on the ADM Aspect you have chosen. The ‘Celebrate Festival’ action costs 200 Faith Power. The three aspects give you following modifiers:
  • -2 National Unrest modifier, and using ‘Celebrate Festival’ gives +1 Stability.
  • -5% Technology Cost modifier, and using ‘Celebrate Festival’ gives +20 Reform Progress, +5 Legitimacy (or equivalent), and +5 Claim Strength of Heir.
  • -0.5 Interest Per Annum modifier, and using ‘Celebrate Festival’ gives 0.3 Years of Income, and reduces Inflation by 1.

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DIP Aspects manipulate the relations your people have with the Abrahamic religions and vice versa. Each aspect gives a passive bonus as well as their modifiers:
  • +2 Tolerance of the True Faith, all Jewish Provinces have no culture penalties.
  • +2 Tolerance of Heathens, all Christian and Muslim provinces have no effect on the Religious Unity of your country.
  • -10% Development Cost, all Non-Theocratic Christian and Muslim countries gain +35 Opinion of you.

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MIL Aspects modify the military strength of the country and affect the generation of Faith Power. The modifiers are the following:
  • -15% Land Attrition, during war you get +10% (20% in defensive wars) Manpower Recovery Speed and +5% (10% in defensive wars) Faith Power
  • +25% Fort Defense, gain +2 Siege Progress if you siege your own fallen forts, gain +15 Faith Power for every occupied enemy fort
  • +5% Land and Navy Morale, winning battles decreases War Exhaustion by 0.05, winning wars gives +50 Faith Power

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On top of that, we have created a set of new flavor events for Jewish countries. Some of their topics are the reconstruction of the Third Temple, making the ruler choose some things during Sabbath, Abrahamic religions converting to Judaism, and about the figure of the Messiah as their topics. Others are centered around the celebrations, so you can have a proper Bar Mitzvah for your heir, and 3 celebrations around the year: Pesach, Shavuot, and Sukkot.

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Now let’s take a look at the setup changes we’ve done for 1.32, along with some more new mission trees. Here we’ve got 4 new regional mission trees (West Africa, Central Africa, Horn of Africa, and East Africa), so every country in Sub-Saharan Africa will have either a mission tree specific to them, or one of the new regional trees, and we’ve also added 5 more ‘minor’ mission trees (Jolof, Mossi, Hausa, Oyo and Adal), as we had some extra development time, and we decided that more content would be best. So, let’s go region by region, then.

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In West Africa we’ve made a few changes. From west to east, Macina is no longer a starting country. However, it can spawn as a revolter after Fulani culture expands to the provinces of Termes, Wagadu and Baghena (at game start, in northern Mali and SW Timbuktu), and it can also be formed by a country with Fulani culture (Great Fulo, for instance). Then we have divided the former Mossi tag into three new ones: Yatenga, Wagadugu and Fada N’Gourma. We could have created more, but we decided to use the same criteria as for Hausan countries, to not have too many OPM’s in the region. Finally, we have created the Wadai Emirate at the east of Lake Chad and Yao. Our intention here is to have a continuum of inhabited provinces from the Atlantic to the Indian Oceans, after both Great Fulo and Funj spawn by event, portraying the traditional trade route of Darfur corridor.

All countries in this region without a specific mission tree will have a new, generic one. It has 3 different paths, a military one, other economic, and the third one religious. The first two are linked so you have to complete missions in both branches to advance to the final missions on the tree, having as their main objective to assert your country as the powerhouse in West Africa. Meanwhile, the third mission set is in reality two, as Islamic and Fetishist countries will have different paths; Muslims will aim to impose their faith as the only one in the region, while Fetishists will aim to establish a syncretic traditional religion in their country.

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Now let’s take a look at the minor mission trees we added in this region. The first one is for Jolof. The first two columns are about pushing Mali out of West Africa, replacing them and establishing an empire there. Additionally, you also aim to contact the Europeans and make a deal with them. Apart from that, we wanted to portray their specific government form, with Jolof being ‘primus inter pares’ of some smaller kingdoms. Because of that, they now have a unique government reform to represent the kingdom confederacy Jolof used to be, so now these ‘petty kingdoms’ are three ‘estate privileges', which represent the decentralization of Jolof. The third column in the mission tree requests you to centralize by taking certain privileges. Centralizing the state requires you to have at least 2 stability and a lot of estate loyalty with the chieftains. If you centralize you will automatically lose one stab and a good chunk of estates loyalty.


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For the Mossi states, we have a common mission tree for the three countries, but also for the Mossi tag if you are able to form it by decision. Their mission focus is pretty straight forward: Conquer West Africa! The "Invade" missions will immediately loot important cities and give you all of its gold.

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Forming Mossi will trigger one event later on and add two missions to your tree about their government form. Unlike Jolof's Confederacy, the Mossi Confederal Kingdom is more beneficial. It gives you access to the Tribal Federation mechanic if you have Cradle of Civilization and unlocks a bunch of new decisions for you too. The effects of the decisions are not instant however, as they will always take about 6 months before being in effect. In addition, you have to ‘pay’ in legitimacy and local autonomy. Finally, completing the ‘Centralize the Confederacy’ mission allows you to break out of this government reform or reinforce it even more through an event choice.

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Hausan missions have the same scope as the Mossi ones, so you can have them as one of their starting countries, or if you form the Hausa tag. They are about the conquest of the other Hausa states. ‘Unite the Cities’ requires you to be either Hausa or Sokoto. To get help with the early phase you can request militaristic aid from allies through the mission ‘Form Alliances"’. Hausa's mission ‘Develop the Cities’ revolves around the 7 cities which were founded by the 7 different Hausa rulers. Completing this mission will give every one of these 7 cities a unique province modifier for 10 years, reflecting the history and role of these cities. ‘Resolve Internal Issues’ will enable a decision for you, which allows you to get these bonuses for these 7 cities every 20 years again. ‘Contact with the Fulani’ triggers an event for you, which makes Fulani into an accepted culture. Through this you are allowed to form Sokoto, and then it will replace the fourth column with three missions, which are about the Jihad in West Africa. The last reward for converting all the provinces to Islam is a permanent +2 Tolerance of True Faith and -0.5% Prestige Decay.

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Finally we have the Oyo mission tree. First column is about their historical usage of cavalry. As such you are encouraged to trade with the Muslims. After that you unlock a special mercenary company for them. The mission ‘Chaaaarge!!’ will disable the Army Professionalism cost from this cavalry merc company. The remaining columns are about pushing the Muslims out of West Africa and becoming the dominant power of there. Oyo is also the defender of the Fetishistic faith (though not really a defender, but you get the idea). As such, the province Ife has gained a specific bonus. Oyo's missions are also special in their requirements, as they allow progress through tributaries too! It’s done through a special government reform which allows you to do that. Then, the mission ‘Reform the Government’ will unlock an estate privilege which allows tributaries even if they are no longer a tribal country. It should be noted that if you revoke the privilege at any time your tributaries will break free, so use this one with caution.

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Now let’s move to Congo and Central Africa. Here we felt comfortable with the setup, as it allows a diverse gameplay with different countries, with Kongo as the main powerhouse, as you already know. What we’ve done is adding a new mission tree for the other countries in both regions. They are mainly in three branches. In the war/economic branch, you start preparing for war, and the idea is that at first it’s used to boost your economy, through raiding. This is represented with a mission requiring you to have multiple war reparations. Once you are able to maintain and train a proper army you start expanding to the point of becoming the military power of the region (with a mission requiring you to have the biggest army around), and then you can progress to become an empire. The second branch is diplomatic. It starts by getting strong allies to secure your position (the mission actually requires for them to be strong, or being either Kongo, Kilwa or Mutapa), then gaining the trust of the allies, then once your position is secure you turn to aggressive diplomacy with the missions requiring you to have vassals and then (tied to the war path too) going to a point of inflicting a crushing blow to a rival to humiliate them (which is in itself a requirement for becoming an empire). The third branch is the religious one. You first start as a fetishist gathering pokem... I mean, cults, and then the idea is that you get in contact with the Muslim countries (tied to the alliances missions of the diplomacy branch) from whom you can get valuable info. Then, it's just expanding your religion, first by going to war against any country that borders you but is not your religion, and then by having to convert provinces.

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Then we have the Horn of Africa. Here we have added another new tag, Ogadeen, portraying the Somali clans that inhabit that space. This regional mission tree revolves around religious clashes. Your aim is to conquer and convert the heathens, uniting the tags of your faith, and become the main power of the region. After completing the final mission of those branches, ‘Save the Horn’, you will get the permanent modifier ‘The Holy Horn’, giving you +50% Religious Unity in reward for your efforts. In parallel to that, you’ve got some missions with an economic scope, that aims at your country being the main trade power in the Indian Ocean.

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In the same region we have the last ‘minor’ mission tree, that of Adal. Their missions are mostly focused on giving Ethiopia a real fight to deal with. This is especially emphasized by a mission reward early on, ‘Restore the Old Mosque’, that is about the mosque Masjid al-Qiblatayn in Zeila, one of the oldest mosques in Africa; so, developing Zeila will give you a great Mosque there. ‘Reach the Turks’ is about establishing relations with the Ottomans. This mission can be completed by having any kind of regiment at the coast of the Mediterranean or in a province held by a Turkish country. It will trigger an event chain, not limited to the Ottomans, as it will seek out for the strongest Turkish power in Anatolia, that will eventually give some Janissary mercenaries; should there be no Turkish power at all in Anatolia in the rare occasion that the wet dream of a Byzantophile comes true, then Adal will ask Mamluks for help instead, unlocking the Mamluks mercs instead of the Janissaries. The rest of the mission tree is pretty straight-forward: unite the Somali clans, eliminate Ethiopia, convert the Horn of Africa, and get a connection to West Africa.

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Let’s finish with the East Africa mission tree. Here we have focused on trade, regional expansion and strategic one in trade ports as main focuses. The objective is, obviously, becoming a great power (who would have noticed that regarding EU4!). However, one of the last missions of the tree is a funny one, as you’ll be aiming at reversing the trade visit that Zheng He made to the region a few decades ago, establishing a strong trade presence in the Chinese region trade ports.

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So that’s all for today, which I think is a lot, as we covered a bunch of very different content all across the continent. Actually, this is the last DD delivered from CD Team, as the next DD’s before release will be focusing on the new Art in Origins Immersion Pack, the new Achievements we’ve created, and the changelog (be prepared for it, as it will have hundreds of fixes that will go live with 1.32 patch, literally!). As always, your feedback will be appreciated; just be civil, and take into account that some numbers may be tweaked before release. See you!
 

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Thanks for the response. I still hope for more than one way to ge jewish as a religion. Hopefully there will be an eventchain with advisor/estate/whatever to convert as another country in the next patches. Thank you
 
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Yeah no, it's just you. I just dropped by the EUIV subreddit and picked the first 5 posts that show a full world map.

https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/qgag4y
Shafted by Manchu. Korea nonexistant.

https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/qgalun
Divided between Japan and Manchu. Korea nonexistant.

https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/qgdljh
Annexed by Manchu. Korea nonexistant.

https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/qgmnc1
Annexed by Qing. Korea nonexistant.

https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/qgjcvm
Southern half annexed by Japan, lost a few northern provinces to bloody Ainu.

4 out of 5 cases Korea disappears, the one case where they do survive is where they're butchered by all of their neighbours. And 'barely kept the northern nomads at bay' just drips of historical bias, watch your wording.
The first post just shows a picture of Africa.

Korea was almost taken by japan in this era, it was taken by Japan after this era. It could well have fallen to Japan, far likelier than Korea blobbing all over the Jurchen. Non nomads usually have a very hard time controlling nomad territory.

As for the Qing run, the person who posted it called it a unicorn, because Qing never happens, usually because the jurchen blobbed over by Korea, so yes the jurchen blobbing into Korea rather than China is a problem but endemic of a larger problem of EU4 the fact that the AI blob in the path of least resistance because in EU4 blobbing is always good, while in reality it was always a gamble.
 
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Nice! Tough start with unique OP religion? Now that's a good balance.

What would you say for some kind mechanism representing Jewish minorities and their migrations in Europe? E.g. random events to gain development in province with "drawback" of a small % change (depending on dev) of province changing religion to Judaism.
 
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I invoke now my colleague @Ogele , as he's the one behind the numbers of the Judaism mechanic.
Hello there!
The work you guys have put in seems impressive. Well done.

A question regarding Judaism: Can you change aspects as soon as you have the church power to do so? Because if so, this means you'll be at +3 stab always, as well as raking up government progress at an impressive pace along with all the other goodies you'll be getting.

Say an average country with a 3/4/3 ruler and +1 advisors and maybe 50 power projection gets ((9 (base) + 10 (monarch) + 3 (advisors) + 3 (PP)) * 0,1 = 2,5 power per month. Or in other words one free stability every 3,33 years.

Maybe tone that down a bit? Once per ruler. Or only the stats of your ruler get accounted, not all monarch points of the country?

It works for protestant because they don't get a bonus upon choosing their focus. Here it's different.

This is just spitballing numbers though. I obviously didn't test this, but it seems a bit over the top on paper.
You can change the aspects as soon you have the faith power to do so, yes. However, it costs 100 faith power to change it and the celebration of a festival costs entire 200 points.
So with that in mind it would be every 6.66 years that you gain a free stability - well, that is if you don't utilize any of the military aspects.

Right now, I am taking a closer look at how powerful the faith power generation is from military aspects. So expect to see some changes in that regard.

I will keep your proposal into account though when the QA team reveals some overpowered way to abuse the mechanics though.
@Pavia the modifier given to the Oyo mercenary company is +33% flanking range I think? Flanking range only has an effect from +50% jump-points because Cavalry maneuver base is 2.

There are some scenarios where +25% is useful as well, but it is borderline irrelevant.

Edit: also the Kongo minor mission tree is a bit scuffed. Going to war three times so you can get war reps, then vassalise, then annex, is weird. Who wouldn't just annex in the first war?
My bad, should have been 50%.
Speaking of Oyo's cavalry merc:
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Hello and thanks for this big DD - Before the DD i feared, that the last dd wouldn't have special missiontrees/events - but I really like the different goverment reforms and estates - the nations are feeling quite unique with them! Does Benin get any love or the same Mission tree as Oyo?

The only downside I see is with Judaism - finally we get some love (I cant really tell yet. but events are very welcoming!) - I just hoped that there would be more possibilites besides the semien tag to get a jewish state by event. I hoped for a vasall/march event for israel for mamluks/ottomans or an eventchain for converting a province in poland and later the king-heir and then the country possiblity. If there is just one country with jewish possibility its so sad. (as well as ethiophia is one of the few coptic nations...)
Are there any new possibilites to get jewish?
(how to form the israel tag?)

Do the jewish get monuments or different effects for specific monuments besides the one in jerusalem?

What missiontrees get the small ethiopian minors? the same as Ethiopia?
Thanks for the big DD - i just really hoped for some love for the great lakes (are they forgotten?) and madagascar - they surley need something, as this is the last chance for them.
Totally agree would love to see some events that make jewish playable in other regions beyond semien.

I think they can do it by fixing the AI so the jewish event in ottomans fires more often. Also they could add an event for Catherine vogel in Poland, giving you the opportunity to convert Poland to judaism in the early 1500s. Or you could have an event chain for Joseph Nasi who was an ottoman duke trying to resettle jews in Israel. That could be an event chain that gives you a Jewish province or lets you get israel as a vassal in 1550 or 1560 ish.
 
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Nice! Tough start with unique OP religion? Now that's a good balance.

What would you say for some kind mechanism representing Jewish minorities and their migrations in Europe? E.g. random events to gain development in province with "drawback" of a small % change (depending on dev) of province changing religion to Judaism.
Theres an event for Netherlands where they gain dev from jewish migrants.
 
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Nice! Tough start with unique OP religion? Now that's a good balance.

What would you say for some kind mechanism representing Jewish minorities and their migrations in Europe? E.g. random events to gain development in province with "drawback" of a small % change (depending on dev) of province changing religion to Judaism.
Theres an event for Netherlands where they gain dev from jewish migrants
 

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First is first, thank of all you for the great reception of this DD, for your kind comments, and for the useful feedback received!









As we said in other thread, there's lot of countries that would have deserved more content in this Immersion Pack, as Sub-Saharan Africa is so wide and diverse... But we had a calendar for developing it, so we also had to be selective with the content to be included. Because of that, we designed the regional mission trees, so at least the countries lacking specific content will have some interest and engaging flavor (hopefully, you'll be the ones judging it!).

Regarding Judaism, we've setup the religion mechanics, and it's working more or less as we wanted; that was our main focus. From here, perhaps we can think on expand Jewish content on the next patches.

We will rework Jerusalem monument to fit better with the new Judaism features, although I'm not completely sure if it will be included in the release of 1.32, or in one of the following patches, TBH - our priority was to have Judaism mechanics fully functional and more or less balanced, on the one hand, and have a good balance of the new monuments, on the other. I'll do my best to include that rework ASAP, trust me.

Regarding Ethiopian minors, they will get the regional missions for the countries in the Horn of Africa. As Ethiopia is now a reformable tag, they can access its mission tree that way.

Well, we also think that we've done quite an advance regarding estates mechanics in this patch. Perhaps we could continue working on them this way for the next version of the game, and rebalance a bit the existing estates; however, we've not taken yet a decision about the specific next steps to be followed, as we're really focusing on this release, and 1.32, as we wanted to fix a lot of issues, and raise our quality standard again.



Thanks a lot for your comments! We'll take a look on your suggestions, specifically those for the Oyo Cavalry mercenary company, as it's a really good one.

No, they aren't separate, new mechanics. What we've done is to create them using the Estates system, and creating interactions with missions, decisions and events to model it more dynamically. So, adding new content, without adding new mechanics, but using the already existing ones.

















First of all, thanks to all of you for your suggestions, again (and specifically to @WhoBob3000 , your feedback was really good and detailed). As my colleague @Aldaron just said, we want to treat Judaism religion with as much respect and correctness as possible. So, we will take into account your very detailed feedback to change a lot of these things ASAP.

Now, commenting some specific issues:
- We're changing 'Hama' for 'Haman'.
- We will include Yom Kippur in the feature, you're completely right about the importance of that feast.
- We're changing 'Sichchat Torah' for 'Simchat Torah'.
- We're changing the chanukiyah for a menorah as the symbol of the religion, and will try to change the icon too.
- We're changing the spelling of the festivals to 'festival of XYZ'.
- We're changing 'Hanukkah Festival' for 'Festival of Rosh haShanah', and 'Rosh Hashanah' for 'Yom Kippur'.
- We're renaming 'Remember the Passover' to 'Remember Passover'.
- Order of Military aspects will be 'Yom Kippur', 'Remember Passover', and 'Purim teachings'.

Regarding other wording issues in the events suggested by WhoBob3000, we will take that into account, although probably not for the release of Origins, as our localization workflow takes some time.

Good suggestion.

I invoke now my colleague @Ogele , as he's the one behind the numbers of the Judaism mechanic.

Yes, they will be getting their own set of ideas. And thanks for your suggestion for the naming, we'll take that into account.
Thats great!
If we're working on naming something i think should be worked on is the renaming of jewish estates and buildings. They don't need to change the mechanics at all, but calling the Jewish religious estate "clergy" just doesn't feel right. I propose "Beit Din" or "Rabbinical Councel". Also the term temple for Jewish holy building seems bland and generic, maybe "synagogue" or "Beit Knesset" is more fitting.

Thank you
 
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Heya!
You have a typo in the holiday name here - It's Simchat Torah, and not Sichchat. Additionally, that date is very much the festivity that happens right after Sukkot, so putting both of them there seems a bit redundant. Likewise, I'm not sure that Hanukkah suits what you are looking for, as it's not a very religious holiday, nor is it known as a festival. Purim on the other hand, is all about celebration and festivities and would probably suit better what you were aiming for here.
 

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OK, that Oyo Cavalry Mercenary company is COOL AF. I don't know if anyone else will appreciate it, but I sincerely do. Thank you.

Also, the work being done on Privileges for Estates feels really good. My hype for the Origins Immersion Pack is really growing.
 

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Totally agree would love to see some events that make jewish playable in other regions beyond semien.

I think they can do it by fixing the AI so the jewish event in ottomans fires more often. Also they could add an event for Catherine vogel in Poland, giving you the opportunity to convert Poland to judaism in the early 1500s. Or you could have an event chain for Joseph Nasi who was an ottoman duke trying to resettle jews in Israel. That could be an event chain that gives you a Jewish province or lets you get israel as a vassal in 1550 or 1560 ish.
I think they should add these additions in the Middle East DLC/Immersion pack.
 

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I hope we see the Hausa provinces get devved up a bit, especially in manpower. The kingdoms of Hausaland were historically a center of population and power on par with the Middle Niger (Songhai, Mali, Timbuktu area), and a cut above the rest of the region. I think it would make more sense to simply increase the number of provinces in Hausaland, but as the devs don't want to do that, they should increase the development in the area to compensate.

Aside from historical considerations, anyone who's played in West Africa will know that manpower shortages are chronic in the area, and a pain to deal with from a gameplay perspective. If the Hausa mission bonuses compensate for this then great, but otherwise, Hausaland could use some more manpower development.
 
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Korea was almost taken by japan in this era
But it wasn't.

Nations like Khmer, Majapahit, the Mamluks, Novgorod, Poland and the Bahmanis all collapsed during the game's timeline, yet they're nowhere near as underpowered as Korea is.

The first post just shows a picture of Africa.
The second picture shows the whole world.

it was taken by Japan after this era.
Absolutely ridiculous logic. Do we have to introduce Nazi Germany into the game too? Because that's the era you're talking about. If you want your WWII fantasies to play out go buy HOI4.

far likelier than Korea blobbing all over the Jurchen.
Korea controlled the Manchurian steppes until the late 10th century, and had made territorial expansions to the north as late as 1430 and attempted campaigns until the 17th century. Japan never had a foothold on mainland Korea until the late 19th century. If you seriously think this, I doubt you have enough historical knowledge to discuss the issue.

As for the Qing run, the person who posted it called it a unicorn, because Qing never happens, usually because the jurchen blobbed over by Korea, so yes the jurchen blobbing into Korea rather than China is a problem but endemic of a larger problem of EU4 the fact that the AI blob in the path of least resistance because in EU4 blobbing is always good, while in reality it was always a gamble.
That's not the point. I also agree that Manchu needs to be guided better (not being able to tributary Chinese nations for example), but that has nothing to do with the topic on hand.
 
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I am satisfied with the content and creativity of this immersion pack, there are somethings in Africa that I am a bit dissapointed for not being addressed but considering the rule of "no more new provinces" and considering the time constraints I think that designers job here was very good.

to east, Macina is no longer a starting country. However, it can spawn as a revolter after Fulani culture expands to the provinces of Termes, Wagadu and Baghena (at game start, in northern Mali and SW Timbuktu), and it can also be formed by a country with Fulani culture (Great Fulo, for instance).
@Ogele @Pavía

Have you considered add a revolter tag for Soninke culture? In current patch Macina is wrongly represented being the primary tag for Soninke culture, gladly this will be fixed with the immersion pack, but Soninke culture will not have a primary tag anymore. My suggestion would be a revolter tag named Diafanu or if you want a more improbable alt-history a revolter tag named Ghana (representing the old Ghana/Wagadou Empire).
 
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