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EU4 - Development Diary - 25th of June 2019

Hello again! We have another fragmented dev diary today as each of us will talk about content that we’ve designed and implemented. Our focus this time will be on mission trees in the Balkans region.

To begin, I’ll hand you over to @Caligula Caesar for a look at the Austrian mission tree.

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Austria already had quite a few missions, largely focusing on them acquiring their historical territories and solidifying their position as Emperor. However, we felt that there was plenty of room for new missions going in various directions. Some explore “what if” expansion opportunities, but we tried not to go overboard there and explicitly avoided giving PU CBs on the likes of France and Spain, as this would make Austria’s potential too OP. Instead, many new missions focus on internal affairs, governance of subject peoples, being a good Emperor and generally achieving diplomatic predominance. The result was a mission tree as extensive as any in the game at the moment.

One of the first missions in the old mission tree was to form a personal union with Hungary. As we know, the history of Austria’s rule of Hungary was an uneasy one, littered with attempted revolts and difficult compromises. We therefore added a few missions to reflect this. The mission “The Hungarian Question” requires you to not just own Hungary but also have no unrest, separatism or autonomy (taking into account estates). If you do this, you will gain Hungarian and Slovakian as accepted cultures, or if you have accepted them already, you gain +3 development in Pest and Bratislava. “Multicultural Empire”, the next mission, has similar conditions, but requires you to achieve them in a multitude of non-German provinces. Your reward is to gain the option of adopting a new base government reform called Imperial Austrian Monarchy.

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Saying "no" will give you lesser bonuses but let you keep your current reforms.

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Further down on the Balkan conquests branch, new missions were added to push further south into Serbia and Bulgaria, and ultimately drive the Ottomans from the Balkans, if you are up to the task. As currently, this branch splits to include the mission “Italian Ambition” (focusing on Venice), but now that mission is only the start of Austria’s ambitions in Italy, and Austria now has missions to take over Milan and Naples too.

The old mission to Secure Electors is now the start of a larger HRE-themed tree, which has you complete tasks such as ensuring that no HRE provinces are owned by non-HRE members, that there are no countries strong enough to challenge you in it (i.e. own 10 provinces and are not your subject), and that it is Holy (i.e. religious turmoil has been weathered), Roman (Rome and its owner are in the Empire) and truly an Empire (pass most of the reforms and have every member state have a positive opinion of you). The last three missions grant you, respectively, +1 Papal Authority (with some fallbacks if you are not Catholic), +0.1 Imperial Authority and +0.5 yearly Absolutism; however, you will lose these bonuses should you no longer be Emperor.

A pair of branches for limited expansion into Germany and the West have been added. One focuses on making the Austrian territories contiguous (i.e. there must be a land connection between Breisgau and Tirol), taking revenge for the exploits of a certain William Tell in Switzerland, and weakening France – the last not requiring outright conquest, but merely a higher monthly income and an army double the size of France’s, giving you an enviable +10% land morale and +25% improve relations for the next 20 years. The second branch starts with the old classic first targets of Salzburg and Augsburg (plus Trent now) before allowing you the opportunity to fulfill Austria’s long-time ambition of integrating Bavaria into their state. After that, you must choose how to deal with Brandenburg: Either crush them or make them very firm allies. Either way, you will be rewarded with a highly skilled Prussian army advisor at 25% the cost.

We also added a new colonial branch, starting from the Netherlands if you can acquire them. It provides some targets and bonuses for those who wish the Habsburgs to colonise the world, and also provides a much-needed nod to centuries of confusion between two countries with horribly similar names (I feel sorry for our translators…). There is also a new economic/administrative branch, which starts with ensuring the estates are fully behind you and then requires you to develop your Austrian provinces in various ways, concluding with making Vienna the fitting stage for the Viennese Waltz by giving it at least 50 development and 6 buildings, and demonstrating your care for culture by employing three level 3 advisors.

Finally, the new diplomatic branch starts with the fairly achievable task of being a Great Power, having a Great Power ally and a Great Power rival. However, it quickly becomes more challenging: “Spread the Habsburgs” requires you to have either 5 nations ruled by your dynasty or have your dynasty present on 5 continents. You then need to shift the balance of power in your favour by having at least 500 European province (out of 800-odd) be ruled by you, your allies/subjects, or members of the HRE (with you as Emperor); achieving this will give your ruler and future rulers for the next 30 years +2 dip skill. After crushing the Revolution, you then must assert your supremacy over Europe – all Great Powers in Europe must either be allied to you or have been defeated by you in the last 100 years. If you can manage all this, you will be in a truly dominant position and will be duly rewarded with +5% administrative efficiency.

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Aside from missions, there is another change to Austria that we can present at this stage. At present, Austria's heir is Ladislaus Postumus. Hungary usually soon acquires the same Ladislaus Postumus as an heir, but should both come to inherit their countries, they will continue to be treated as separate rulers and the countries will not form a union; even worse, the two Ladislauses have different stats! All this will now change. Firstly, they now have the same stats. Secondly, if either of them dies before both become king, the other will also die, so that one doesn't end up wondering why hunting accidents don't cross borders. Thirdly, if Ladislaus survives to become Archduke and King, Austria will become the senior PU partner of Hungary.

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As a further change, Hungary and Croatia have merged as the PU is formed. Given the historical particularities of the Croatian situation, we felt it more appropriate that they should be treated as part of Hungary if Hungary falls under a PU.

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Hey again folks, I'm @Ofaloaf and it's time to talk about Serbian missions.

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The Serbian Despotate in the middle of the 15th century was in a precarious state. The despotate was the descendant of the 14th century Serbian Empire, a realm which dramatically rose and fell over two generations, and which at its height had included much of Albania, Montenegro, and northern Greece. This empire disintegrated into bickering principalities in the later 14th century, all of which either ended up conquered by the advancing Ottomans or consolidated under the rule of a northern Serbian principality which is now often referred to as Moravian Serbia. The Serbian Despotate seen in 1444 is the result of Moravian Serbia's efforts to consolidate and rebuild the old empire, although it should be said that historically this did not end well for them and the Despotate was fully conquered by the Ottoman Empire in 1459.

So! Serbia has a recent legacy which serves as an excellent framework for many of its early missions. Serbian expansion focuses initially on the domains of the former Serbian Empire, encouraging the country to reincorporate the wayward provinces of Albania, Macedonia and northern Greece back into the realm. If that's pulled off (and taking on the Ottomans is no small matter!), then Serbian expansion generally tracks in two directions: East, towards Constantinople, and north, towards Austria. Along the way, Serbia will have to find ways to deal with the myriad cultures of the Balkans (including Bosnians, a new addition reflective of pre-Ottoman Medieval Bosnian culture) and use their faith to solidify their rule in their new domains.

If Serbia is willing to play a diplomatic game, there are some opportunities for peaceful gains. Hungary and Serbia had a very close relationship in the fifteenth century; Despot Stefan, father of the Serbian ruler in charge at the start of the Grand Campaign, agreed to become a nominal vassal of Hungary during his reign, and in return received the city of Belgrade, now modern-day Serbia's capital. Belgrade was returned to Hungary upon Stefan's death, but if Serbia is willing to rebuild relations with Hungary (without becoming a real vassal), the Hungarian crown just might be willing to repeat the deal it made with Stefan and cede Belgrade once more. If Serbia is not interested in diplomacy, of course, Belgrade can be regained by guile and force of arms too.

Serbia's missions are focused on survival and reclaiming territories which it had only recently lost. If it can weather the initial storm and make some tentative gains, Serbia has plenty of opportunities to expand and reclaim its place as a true empire once more.

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And now back to me, @neondt.

We have on the map several tiny Catholic nations in Greece that I’ll collectively refer to as the Crusader States. These are The Knights, Cyprus, Epirus, Athens, and Naxos. The Crusader States have some of the most challenging starting positions in the game, being at the mercy of the Ottomans as well as the wealthy Italians republics of Venice and Genoa. I decided to add a little flavor to these countries by way of a mission tree:

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As fantastical as some of these missions are, we remain committed to some degree of plausibility. There are no explicitly supernatural events in EU4, except for Hunting Accident which will always kill your 6/6/6 heirs.
Crusader missions are also available if you form Jerusalem


The first thing any aspiring crusader needs is a Crusader Fleet, for the journey to the Holy Land would surely be a disastrous undertaking on foot. 25% Galley Combat Ability might just give you the edge you need assault the shores of Syria. With your righteous army on terra firma, you should consider whether to head straight for Jerusalem or whether it would be wiser to first establish a base of operations at Antioch. A successful crusade for Antioch will give you the chance to restore the Hospitaller Order to their former glory, granting the city to the Knights and making them your vassals. If you are already playing as the Knights, you’ll permanently gain 10% Land Morale and 10% total Manpower. Of course you could simply keep the city for yourself and receive some Prestige, Army Tradition, and Papal Influence. Jerusalem however is the ultimate goal for any true crusader. This would be a good time to reveal that we have a new government reform for players that form Jerusalem:

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Tooltip is still WIP as is currently doesn't show that it grants religious CBs.

The Crusader State government reform (and legacy government) is exclusive to a Catholic Jerusalem and enables the Crusade and Cleansing of Heresy CBs, as well as giving a bonus to manpower recovery speed. It is available to both monarchies and theocracies. You can also create Custom Nations with the government type, though it comes at a point cost of 50 to offset how powerful these CBs can be given your choice of starting positions.

Extending the crusade to encompass all of the Kingdom of Heaven will aid you in your mission to Convert the Holy Land. You’ll also be tasked with a new target for your crusade: Egypt, the Land of Moses, with the goal of establishing a Catholic Archbishopric at Alexandria. In Egypt you’ll hear of rumors of a certain long-lost relic thought to reside in far Abyssinia...

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What revelations await those who would dare to open the Ark?

The quest for the Holy Land is not the only goal for the Crusader States. Greece must also be liberated from the heathen, and you must convince the Pope to sponsor a new crusade against the Turks. With a Foothold in Greece, you must restore the Latin Empire of Constantinople. The so-called Latin Empire was a product of the 4th Crusade, in which crusading armies decided to sack Constantinople and depose the Byzantines rather than reclaiming the Holy Land as they were tasked to do. We decided against adding a new formable nation for this purpose, but nonetheless you are charged with taking up its mantle.

There is one more grave danger facing Christendom: the menace of the Barbary Pirates operating from the coast of North Africa. Greece is not the most convenient base of operations for a crusade against the pirates, so you must negotiate with the rulers of Malta for ownership of the island. Malta must be equipped to deal with the pirate onslaught; construct a suitable defense and marvel as your enemies break upon its shores with a 50% local defensiveness modifier. With Malta armed and ready, it’s time to take the fight to the pirates. A Base in Africa must be established along the Tunisian or Libyan coast, and from there you’ll launch a grand Crusade Against Piracy, dominating the North African coast and making the seas safe for Christian travelers. Your own nation will be rewarded with a permanent boost to Naval Morale and Light Ship Trade Power. The seas offer opportunity for more than just pirates. This is the age of discovery, and there will surely be a need for Knights of the New World! Colonize any province in North or South America, and prepare to embark on a perilous journey to discover the legendary Fountain of Youth with the aid of a highly skilled Scottish conquistador. What wonders you’ll find on your quest I cannot say, but if the Fountain truly does exist it must be kept out of the wrong hands by any means necessary.

And that’s a wrap for today. We’re now entering the period of summer holidays at Paradox, but that won’t mean the end of dev diaries. I’ll still be around for the summer (compensating with a long winter vacation), and during that time we’ll be writing smaller dev diaries with a focus on a single country - like a mission tree plus some relevant content for that nation. Our first candidate will most likely be Naples. After the summer however we plan to start revealing some of the major reworks and features coming up in the European update, so stay tuned for more.
 
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@Caligula Caesar could you please explain acquire Galicia mission?

It looks weird if anything - in order to finish it, you probably gave to acquire Galicia (Krakow's area and Red Ruthenia), which means conflict with Poland. Or you can ignore the mission and just Become a King of Poland, which makes the mission kind of useless? I don't even mention how it would look odd if you don't get Hungary yet, being a very ugly snake border without much meaning or proper justifications.

Historically it doesn't makes sense either. Partitions of Poland happened very late in EU4 period and Austria wasn't an initiator of it (with Maria Theresa even crying about this as legend says). The acquisition of Galicia was dictated by the partition needs and wasn't something Austria specifically looked for, so it is very unlikely it would be interested in taking Galicia by force.

Even more importantly, next mission asks to become King of Poland. So why does Austria need to acquire Galicia at all?

Maybe you could delete it and replace with another mission, King of Ruthenia? Habsburg monarchy was interested in expanding in Ruthenia after all, so mission to acquire Ruthenia region for it would be more ambitious, interesting, challenging and making more sense.

Thank you for fixing Ladislaus.
 

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I am so happy today.

In any case, the +2 diplo is very on theme especially the contrast with Prussia.
 

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Hey look, Austria gets +2 monarch diplomatic skill with that government reform. Just what it needed!
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Seriously, that's wayyy too strong and pointless. Diplomatic monarch points have nothing to do with diplomacy, they matter for production and trade. I hope it's the sign of a new mechanic, else I think I'm losing faith in the devs, as balance seems to be not their concern.
I like the part where the dev mentioned that the Austro-Hungarian relationship was a fragile one, revolts and compromises and the such. Two pictures later we see a government reform that lowers national unrest and a culture promotion cost reduction.

Look . . . despite how much I've enjoyed this game, I don't recall my history lessons very well at all. I don't know how actually (un)stable Austria-Hungary was. But I'm pretty sure those modifiers should absolutely not exist if you want to model those supposed frailties.
 
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Have the requirements for Austria's Bohemia mission been changed? As it stands, the requirements are such that the AI can never complete it and in some cases can be difficult for a player.

As an opening mission, it should be slightly easier.
 

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I like the part where the dev mentioned that the Austro-Hungarian relationship was a fragile one, revolts and compromises and the such. Two pictures later we see a government reform that lowers national unrest and an insane culture conversion cost reduction.

Look . . . despite how much I've enjoyed this game, I don't recall my history lessons very well at all. I don't know how actually (un)stable Austria-Hungary was. But I'm pretty sure the continued existence of the Hungarian culture (and plenty of other cultures in the region) destroys any justification for Austria to have those modifiers.

There is no discount on converting cultures, there's a discount of promoting cultures.
 

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Unrelated to EU4, but why do we see these bugs lately? There are many posts like this...

Not really a bug per see, and more of a feature working as intended by the dev team of the forum. If you look carefully, the first post was edited yesterday, so was ready for some time, only invisible to users. When made visible, its place on the forum itself is determined by the last reply, specifically, when it was made. Without that second post, the Dev diary would thus appear page 3 or 4, not all they way up. And given the amount of pinned messages, it would be lost in a sea of messages people do not read as they expect them to be the same every time. Next best thing, as thus, is to reply to bump the thread back on top right after putting it visible to everyone
 

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With the Crusader states getting their own flavored missions... is there any hope for Teutonic and Livonian Orders to get theirs as well, in a future update?
 

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It's great that Ladislaus finally was fixed. Do the age of these two correlates to each other?

Also, could you say or show where the Bosnian culture will be located and what is their culture group?
 

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I hope the big huge Europe DLC that lasts one year to make is not just a few more provinces (already done and disappointing... hello Portugal) and new missions... we already have missions expanded for that...

After the summer however we plan to start revealing some of the major reworks and features coming up in the European update, so stay tuned for more.

@Vince75 Sometimes it really helps to read until the End
 

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One thing to stress is that as we are quite a distance from release, all numbers stated in this dev diary are subject to change ;)

@Caligula Caesar could you please explain acquire Galicia mission?

If anything, it is the Austrian mission to become King of Poland that needs explanation. I thought it would be a good addition to the existing partition of Poland mission (Conquer Galicia is not new). Giving you the possibility to PU Poland without weakening them first and without a great deal of historical justification would have been fairly OP, so I went for a compromise that you have to significantly weaken them first and if you do make them your junior partner, they will lose cores on all provinces you own that are no longer neighbouring provinces for them.

Thank you for fixing Ladislaus.

You are welcome :)

I like the part where the dev mentioned that the Austro-Hungarian relationship was a fragile one, revolts and compromises and the such. Two pictures later we see a government reform that lowers national unrest and a culture promotion cost reduction.

It's to make them an accepted culture, not to change their culture. The latter would indeed be inappropriate for Austria.

The other thing to note is that this mission is meant to be hard to fulfill - basically, a matter of facing up to the challenge Austria never truly overcame in history. We will continue to assess whether we find it challenging enough and adapt it as necessary :)
 

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Could we see the new culture map of the Balkans perhaps @Caligula Caesar ? Mostly in Hum/Hercegovina, which should probably remain Serbian in 1444 even with the addition of a Bosnian culture
 

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Well, I have to admit the Crusader missions does tickle my fancy. Multiple directions to go towards. While seemingly focused on conquest well... crusaders, so not exactly minding the mono-focus there on kicking the teeth in of your enemies and taking their land.
 

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Lovely changes to Austria! They feel way to weak now, i have seen Bohemia dominating them in almost all my games lately. I think one problem is that the ai is not familiar with the mechanics that Austria needs to use to become strong (pu-managment, diplomacy, imperial politics). But the changes brought forward here will surely buff Austria at least a little bit. I hope to be seeing Austria as a more active great power in Europe when this update releases. It's great that whe won't have to see doppelganger-ladislaus the posthumous anymore. Hopefully this will also increase the chance of Austria getting a PU early on.
 

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One thing to stress is that as we are quite a distance from release, all numbers stated in this dev diary are subject to change ;)

Both of these

A successful crusade for Antioch will give you the chance to restore the Hospitaller Order to their former glory, granting the city to the Knights and making them your vassals. If you are already playing as the Knights, you’ll permanently gain 10% Land Morale and 10% total Manpower.

are off balance.

- if you're playing one of the difficult nation you get a useless 2PM that you annex immediately
- if you're playing the Chad Knights, who have already the easiest start in that group, you get the most OP carry over perma modifier, fully stacking with another perma modifier that the knight has for basically free.
 

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Why am I feel, that Hungary will be the black sheep of this expansion? Almost all neigbour will be buffed, still no new provinces, no revised missions. I'm realy realy sad. Paradox pls... :(
I think it's fair. Hungary is way too strong right now and it destroys all the immersion coming with a strong Austria and a strong Ottomans duking it out.
 

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A bit bummed that there are no unique Croatian missions (a small tree would have sufficed, for Bosnians as well really), but overall very nice additions.

I like the part where the dev mentioned that the Austro-Hungarian relationship was a fragile one, revolts and compromises and the such. Two pictures later we see a government reform that lowers national unrest and a culture promotion cost reduction.

Look . . . despite how much I've enjoyed this game, I don't recall my history lessons very well at all. I don't know how actually (un)stable Austria-Hungary was. But I'm pretty sure those modifiers should absolutely not exist if you want to model those supposed frailties.

As I understood, that's supposed to be a reward for successfully taming Hungary, not the means to tame it.
 

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One thing to stress is that as we are quite a distance from release, all numbers stated in this dev diary are subject to change ;)



If anything, it is the Austrian mission to become King of Poland that needs explanation. I thought it would be a good addition to the existing partition of Poland mission (Conquer Galicia is not new). Giving you the possibility to PU Poland without weakening them first and without a great deal of historical justification would have been fairly OP, so I went for a compromise that you have to significantly weaken them first and if you do make them your junior partner, they will lose cores on all provinces you own that are no longer neighbouring provinces for them.



You are welcome :)



It's to make them an accepted culture, not to change their culture. The latter would indeed be inappropriate for Austria.

The other thing to note is that this mission is meant to be hard to fulfill - basically, a matter of facing up to the challenge Austria never truly overcame in history. We will continue to assess whether we find it challenging enough and adapt it as necessary :)

Just to clarify another change, when austria gets that plus 2 diplo point will it automatically added to the ruler with the 6 diplo cap, or its additionally gives austria plus 2 diplo points per month potentially getting 8 with a perfect diplo ruler. By the way regardless of the answer this is ridiculously powerful and can easily be used to convert hungary if you wanted to making austria more stable. To me the "Hungarian revolts" awfully seems like can be easily dealth with the usual method. increase autonomy, maybe hire the revolt risk guy if needed, change culture as soon as you can.