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EU4 - Development Diary - 23rd of June 2016

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Hello and welcome to today's development diary for Europa Universalis IV. It's actually a well earned(?) day off for me but I'm doing a once unthinkable thing and working a bit from home. Last week I said we would take a look at a very influential dynasty of the time period. Sorry to disappoint all the Velikopermsky and Dandani fans out there, but I had the Osmanoglus on my mind.

It would be an understatement to say that the Ottomans gave the world a good shaking in this time period. Furthermore, they are one of the more commonly played nations in EUIV. We wanted to give them a little something to bring out their unique flavour since it was always a shame that they are a run-of-the-mill Sultanate. It has also been pointed out on numerous occasions the oddity of a situation where you have the Ottoman nation..without an Osmanoglu at the helm.

So to that end, in the still-unnamed upcoming expansion we have added a unique government type for them: The Ottoman Sultanate.

The Ottoman Sultanate does not generate heirs like normal monarchies do. The ruler of the Ottoman Sultanate will have their own Harem to ensure the dynasty lives on. At the age of 30, your ruler will select one of his sons to be the heir to the throne. They will, of course, be of your dynasty

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So an Ottoman Sultanate shall always be blessed by the strong line of Osmanoglus. That is to say unless the Sultan dies without an heir. In that case, they'll still end up with an Osmanoglu. "Blessed" can be a relative term here.

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There are a couple dozen events accompanying this unique government type to simulate the power struggle and intrigue of such a succession system and should add a couple of fangs to that already formidable Ottomans.

While this is unique to the Ottomans, any modders out there can easily allow this for other government types with the has_harem = yes line.

I feel like we're on a roll when it comes to governments and rulers so here's another thing for today's Development Diary. Abdication.

Yes, it has long been a requested feature in Europa Universalis. When Enrique or his low-stat kind just refuses to die you can abdicate and let your next in line take over. This requires you to have an of-age heir and to have either ruled for 25 years or be 60+ years old. It will come with a considerable hit to your legitimacy/unity and prestige but I think we've all had times where we wanted our monarch to Die Please Die.

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Ottoman Sultanate and Abdication are both paid features in the upcoming expansion which we have magically managed to keep unleaked name-wise.

I've been mentioning a lot of paid features lately but it's good to remind ourselves that with all the paid expansions come free bugfixes and features from the accompanying patch. A small change that will be coming up in 1.18 that I want to share is to do with succession wars. I'm not too happy with how right now, they have two conclusions: Either the new overlord keeps their union or the nation fighting them over it take leadership over the union for themselves. Now, we will add a peace option which simply breaks the union for all parties involved.

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Simple, sensible, and added free in 1.18 for those times where you just want to keep the status quo. Warscore cost scales with the junior partner's size.

Happy midsummer everyone, I'm off to....oh, right, I need to tease upcoming Diaries. Hrmm~ Well, we've touched a lot on rulers but would you believe it, we're not quite done with the changes in the throne room. We'll come to that in the future. As for next week, we'll switch it up on the battlefield. See you then!
 
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Could we please have a feature where a larger and more powerful, Junior Party of a Union could reverse the situation? Rather akin to England and Scotland or Hannover and England.
 
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Trin Tragula has insinuated that there are other events that represent the intrigue involved in the decision.

So for example your chosen favorite heir might get murdered by one of the other not-chosen kids / kids' mothers / whatever, which would... do something, I'm not sure what. Make you choose again? Automatically install a different heir with worse stats and maybe even Average claim (stretching definition of "claim" here but having an appropriate mechanical impact)? Dash your Stability in the process? Who knows.

I AT LEAST hope that upon succession the heir will MURDER all his rival brothers :) Or at least, that this option is available. And of course the power of harem mothers should have some event chains.
 

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So from the tens or hundreds of states which had harems, polygamy, concubinage, which shouldn't change the dynasty through normal means, you select only one. I'm sorry, but this is beyond ridiculous. China, Japan, India, Muslims, Turks, Mongols, practically whole Asia and probably also other regions didn't change dynasties. And yet the new paid feature is only for Ottomans? Seriously, expand this and you will be able to say in DLC features that you are improving half of the civilized world, not only Ottomans. Even if you have plans to touch Asia later, at least for now give them this feature.
Indeed! There are dozens of tags, cultures and religions in-game who should have this Harem mechanic. Seems strange to single out the Ottomans as such. Dynasty name tag, sure I get it, but they are far from the only one in the game.
 
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Any chance of abdication being something that can be demanded in war? Historically kings were often forced to abdicate, this would also add a lot more variety to the succession game and royal marriages.
 
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Could we please have a feature where a larger and more powerful, Junior Party of a Union could reverse the situation? Rather akin to England and Scotland or Hannover and England.
Isn't the Commonwealth another example of this?
 
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I'm starting to suspect that "Still Unnamed" is the name of this expansion.
 
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Looks pretty cool! Are the three sons completely random, so that you could have, say, two with 0/1/0 stats and one with 5/5/5? Or are they weighted in some direction? (Strong son gets more military points, etc.)
 
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3.Abdication :O That was sooo needed. I wonder if you can abdicate as a Theocracy/Republic/Papacy.

Highly unlikly; since they:
1: Specifically mentioned you take a hit to Unity/Legit.
2: Need to have ruled for 25 years. Good luck with a Republican ruling that long. Or a Pope for that matter since those tend to be pretty old. Even Theocracy rulers are very rarely if ever under 35. The 60+ is a bit easier to get but still.
 
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I think Russia and Byzantium should have new government types, as they were so ridiculously intertwined with religion they were somewhere between a theocracy and a monarchy.
 
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It would be Really cool if we were to have a war of the roses as another country.
Kind of like a Hearts of Iron civil war. That would be bitchin!

it will come with "Still Unnamed content pack"
I didn't even think of what content pack would be included with this DLC… Nothing really points to any particular nations or regions so far, aside from Ottomans, but they already have a unit pack. Maybe they will finally just give us Evangelical Majors :D
 
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As if Kebab needed to be buffed any further. :p
Also please add an abdication feature to CKII aswell.
 
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We better be getting corresponding Byzantine flavor. Ottomans get so much flavor already.
 
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Well, DDRJake is in charge currently, so ....

Sigh. I would go so far as to provide him the goods (AKA Byz tech group, fixed flavor, regnal names, events) and he could pick and choose.

Personally, I feel the game faction does not accurately draw enough on the long history and vibrant culture that the Byzantine Empire has.
 
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