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EU4 - Development Diary - 23rd of January 2018

Good morning all. Tuesday has arrived and as usual delivers double excitement: the next episode in the EU4 Dev Clash, and a new development diary. Last week @Trin Tragula took the wheel and showed off the map changes which will roll out with the upcoming 1.25 update. Before we start talking about the features that come with its accompanying yet currently unannounced Immersion Pack, today I will be showing off another free change with 1.25, which is the Mission System.

Missions in EU3 were a real gamble. You hoped for a good or even possible mission and without hitting up the wiki or trawling through the game files had no idea what you could even be tasked with. You got said mission without choice and would either cancel or try to complete it. EU4 improved on this by always offering you up to 3 missions, one of which you would select and either complete or cancel before getting a new batch of missions. While it was an improvement, it still had the shortcomings of you not being quite sure what all missions you would be able to get for your nations, how to unlock them and even getting missions which would be detrimental for you to do. The missions system is something new players often look to for guidance and when it tells them to simply get 50 prestige or to improve relations with their rival, well, you can see why advice for new players can often counter intuitively be to ignore missions.

All this changes in 1.25 with the new Mission System. rather than picking from a short list of missions, all missions for your nation will be available from the very start, and as you fulfill the criteria for them, you will be alerted as such and can go to the newly segregated Missions tab to claim your reward. Rewards have been accordingly made more relevant, longer lasting and often grant claims towards more missions down the line. Let's take a look at the mission chain from one of my favourite nations, Byzantium, with their Purple Phoenix missions.

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humble expansion from my casual Byzantium campaign. Art/layout not final

All Byzantine missions are visible from the start and the progression through them is shown. When the budding Byzantine player reconquers Greece, they will be given a timed reward as well as the claims to help fulfilling the next missions: Recover Albania and Conquer Bulgaria. Once these are completed, they will again be able to claim their reward and work down the mission chain. The mission paths are also split for their different directions to go in, catering towards Western expansion, Anatolian recovery and reclaiming the islands. Mission rewards must be claimed in order, although all missions can be completed throughout a campaign.

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End of the Byzantium mission chain without Purple Phoenix


All nations with specific missions are having those transferred over to this new system. Additionally we have added generic missions for all nations as well as region specific missions so that Europeans can have different missions available to them than, say, Africans or New World Natives. We have also taken the opportunity to clean up older missions while we adapt old ones to work with this new system.

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French Missions, complete with lovely coder art. Something seems odd about the Hebrides though...

This mission change is a free part of the 1.25 Update and our aim is to have the missions feel more relevant for nations, as well as serving as a guiding light for newer players.

I'll try to pre-emptively answer some questions:

  • How do I select a mission?
    • Unlike the previous mission system, you do not select your missions, they are all visible from the game start. All missions at the top of the mission trees will be "active" and when you fulfill an active mission you can go to claim its reward, making any missions below it connected by arrows in its chain active,
  • In the old system selecting a mission would give you the claim/CB you need for the mission, how is that handled now?
    • In most cases, preceding missions will give claims/CBs as a reward which can be used to fulfill the following missions.
  • How does mission gating work?
    • A mission can both be a prerequisite for multiple missions a well as require multiple missions to be completed before it becomes active
  • How moddable is this?
    • Extensively.

Next week we'll start talking about what's coming with the yet unannounced Immersion Pack, due to release alongside 1.25. until then, we shall admire the Ottoman missions in the new system, in all their behemothic glory.

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This is very nice upgrade. It always felt bit annoying to "game" the missions (like not conquering some provinces because you could get a mission for them later). This should remove a lot of that. I do also hope that you will make the mission chains bit longer and give some fun end goals. For example, the French tree doesn't look very long. It would be nice to have some fictitious missions like "Take London", "Conquer Iberia", "8th Crusade" and "Dismantle the empire".
 
Paradox, you have finally added focus trees ! This is very much delightful. :)
I hope some nations also get missions related to 'tall' play. ( developing particular areas or provinces )

Keep up the good work and I'm looking forward to the next dev diaries !
 
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This is very nice upgrade. It always felt bit annoying to "game" the missions (like not conquering some provinces because you could get a mission for them later). This should remove a lot of that. I do also hope that you will make the mission chains bit longer and give some fun end goals. For example, the French tree doesn't look very long. It would be nice to have some fictitious missions like "Take London", "Conquer Iberia", "8th Crusade" and "Dismantle the empire".

For now we are mostly "translating" the old missions to the new system. That's still quite the task given the huge number of missions that exist in EU4.
 
Aaaa! It'll be so great to get rewards for things without having to say I was going to do so before hand now! i.e. as Brandenburg/Prussia, taking Silesia without the mission for it would mean you don't get the rewards for taking Silesia, and so on and so forth
 
What happens if/when you complete two missions, one gated, one not, in one war? Easy example being consuming all of Greece as well as seizing Kostantiniyye. Will you get rewards for both missions?
 
Wait, what's that new tag in the Western Isles?
Based on what Trin said last week, Scotland wasn't getting any new tags.
Scotland has not received any new playable country tags in the 1.25 update but the region has been broken up into more provinces to give the Scottish kingdom a bit more depth and staying power.
However, could be that's changed and Scotland's getting a "Lord of the Isles" vassal to play with?
 
Okay, wow this is great. It was only last night as I was playing Prussia that I thought that I hadn't looked at my missions for 50 years because none were that relevant.

I'm glad this is moddable, I'm really going to run with it in my own mods!
 
Very nice, I always wished that EU4 and CK2 had something like this :D

Would I be right to assume that nations that receive an immersion pack will have their mission tree greatly expanded with lots of flavor missions as well as both historical and alt-historical missions to do? And if so will east slavic nations get a better mission tree in this update since they already got the Third Rome immersion pack?

Also, will it be fully moddable? Could I create a super historical and super railroaded tree for a certain country if I so wished?
 
I think I heard something about Spain...

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Icons are clearly placeholder right now, but this is how some of the Spanish missions appear in the new system.

I like the new system, but it will be a lot of scrolling. Can't you make an option to make the menu larger?
 
Based on what Trin said last week, Scotland wasn't getting any new tags.

However, could be that's changed and Scotland's getting a "Lord of the Isles" vassal to play with?

Well, these are diaries about things that are in development, and all things are subject to change during the development process...
 
@DDRJake can one mod objectives so that they require DLC and be tied to the DLC features? Will they be shown only in case of owning said DLC?