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Hello all.

Sadly we can't yet talk about the big feature of Common Sense, Subject Interaction.. As we are completely redoing the interface for it, so it has to wait until next week.

Instead, we'll talk about a major change to the Holy Roman Empire, and give you the new achievements for 1.12.

Imperial Authority and Reforms

Imperial Authority has had a significant rework in 1.12. The old system tended to advance or retreat authority in big lurches and was very open to exploits. It also did not take into account how well the Empire was doing overall, and there was little benefit for the Emperor to maintain a large number of member states.

This has been changed in 1.12, as many of the events that gave Imperial Authority have been replaced with ticking values. The monthly change to Imperial Authority is now displayed in the interface, and will depend on factors such as:
- Whether there is peace in the Empire
- Total number of member states
- The amount of HRE territory held by outside powers
- The amount of HRE territory held by heretics & heathens
- The number of electors and free cities

An Emperor who is doing a good job will see their Imperial Authority naturally grow without having to resort to methods such as annexing states when authority is at 0 only to release them again later, while an Emperor that allows outside powers and heretics to dominate the Empire will find themselves unable to pass reforms entirely.

As part of this change, we've also revised the old 'Imperial Integrity' modifier for having more than 25 princes. We felt this modifier was both too strong and too arbitrary, so it has been removed. Instead, the HRE reforms were buffed to provide more of an incentive for members to vote for reform.

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Achievements

Baltic Crusader - As Teutonic Order or Livonian Order conquer all of the Russia Region and make it Catholic.
Neither Holy, Nor German - Get 7 free cities in the HRE that are not of German Culture, as Emperor
Colonial Management - Have 3 colonial governors directly appointed by you at the same time.
Voting Streak - Get through 11 Issues in a row in Parliament
An Industrial Revolution - As GBR, all in english region, with 25 development.

City of Cities - Create a City with 60 development.
One Family to Rule them All - Have your dynasty on 8 thrones at the same time.
This is My Faith - Become Protestant and get maximum amount of traits.
Bleed them dry - Have 10 different War Reparations being paid to you at the same time.
Subsidize my Love - Subsidize 3 different allies at least 50% of their monthly income without running a deficit.

Take that Habsburgs! - As Hungary, Conquer all of Austria.
The White Elephant - As Ayutthaya conquers all provinces in Indochina region
The Buddhists strike back - As Ceylon conquer all of India and convert it to Theravada.
Better than Napoleon - As France, conquer Vienna, Berlin & Moscow.
Big Blue Blob - As France, hold 100 european core provinces before 1500.

A Full House - Have 3 Vassals & 2 Marches at the Same time.
Black Jack - Maintain 21 different overseas Subjects with more than 5 provinces each, without anyone having more than 50% Liberty Desire - Trade Companies does not count.
A Decent Reserve - Gain at least 1M Manpower.
The Six Nations - Form a federation of at least 6 nations as the Iroqious.
The Bohemians - Conquer and core Dublin as Bohemia.

Komenoi Empire - Make Trebizond into an Empire.
Lucky Lucca - As Lucca, own Lucknow!
A Fine Goosestep - Form Prussia and get 125% Discipline.
Meissner Porcelain - As Saxony own all chinaware provinces.
All Your Trade are Belong to Us! - Have highest tradepower in Genoa, Venice, & English Channel, while gaining 300 income per month.
 

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Ok granted they nibbled away at the HRE, but compare this to what happens in game if you let it run on observe mode.

Yeah the problem is that irl France was strong enough to survive the onslaught of the unholy PU federation of Burgundy, Austria, Bohemia, Castille, Aragon, Naples and Milan.

This evil familial organisation also contained France for centuries...

However that unholy alliance rarely happens in game so France roll over western Europe.
 
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Modifier removed. The concept of Imperial Integrity is still a thing it seems. As you can see in the screenshot, the Emperor is getting IA for having many princes as well as keeping provinces out of foreign hands. I feel it makes more sense for Imperial Integrity to be represented that way.
It sounds like you're referring to Imperial Authority, not Imperial Integrity. Integrity is a straight up bonus for all HRE princes, while Authority is the emperor's progress(?) toward reform. Integrity being gone is supposed to be included in better bonuses on reform. Hopefully that means for the princes rather than the emperor. Free vassals seems like a plenty big bonus for the emperor already.
 

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It sounds like you're referring to Imperial Authority, not Imperial Integrity. Integrity is a straight up bonus for all HRE princes, while Authority is the emperor's progress(?) toward reform. Integrity being gone is supposed to be included in better bonuses on reform. Hopefully that means for the princes rather than the emperor. Free vassals seems like a plenty big bonus for the emperor already.

The bonuses to the growth of the Emperor's Imperial Authority are new, and I would call them "Imperial Integrity" bonuses because they are derived from the integrity of the Empire.

No, cheat engine is one of those programs that edit game memory while playing and could give you one bazillion dollars, two million manpower, 78/86/115 ruler and tweak other numbers...

Really all the same at that point, isn't it? Edit the memory to give yourself everything you need for an achievement or modify Steam parameters to get an achievement -- the method is slightly different, I guess, but if your goal is "get achievement" you are set either way.
 

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Yeah the problem is that irl France was strong enough to survive the onslaught of the unholy PU federation of Burgundy, Austria, Bohemia, Castille, Aragon, Naples and Milan.

This evil familial organisation also contained France for centuries...

However that unholy alliance rarely happens in game so France roll over western Europe.

I mean seriously you'd think that they made this on purpose to surround/protect themselves from France.

No way to expand without bringing half of Europe in war those meanies.

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THE UNHOLY FEDERATION.
 
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Really all the same at that point, isn't it? Edit the memory to give yourself everything you need for an achievement or modify Steam parameters to get an achievement -- the method is slightly different, I guess, but if your goal is "get achievement" you are set either way.
The difference is, Steam won't ban you for using cheat engine on game, as it might if you are using Steam Achievement Manager.
 
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One Family to Rule them All - Have your dynasty on 8 thrones at the same time.
Finally more interactions for dynasties? As Johan said "it is just common sense we listen to our players" so there is a chance for that, as I remember taking part in such threads (and there were many) :)
 
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The bonuses to the growth of the Emperor's Imperial Authority are new, and I would call them "Imperial Integrity" bonuses because they are derived from the integrity of the Empire.
I'm just saying there's a modifier with the name Imperial Integrity that is going away. Nothing being called one thing or another. :)

Of course, how strong the bonuses on reforms are that replace them will decide if the HRE just became even more OP or is actually getting a nerf here. Either way, I do agree with you that the new system makes more sense.
 

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We felt this modifier was both too strong and too arbitrary,

This is exactly how I feel about the Lucky Nations modifier, except infinitely more arbitrary. Any chance of a rework to this, the worst most ill thought out hackjob in your game?
 
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Big Blue Blob - As France, hold 100 european core provinces before 1500.
Why not with Sweden too? they are powerful when they blob and are blue too. but no its France because... France start out big
 
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French eh? First of while population certainly helps it in no way shows the strenght of a nation, not then not today. Yeah the thrirty years war was the big break for the holy roman empire, after that it became pretty much pointless and austrias strenght became the lands actually held by austria. But france didn't do that on it's own. Basically all of europe was involved in that war. And france have had a claim to all the provinces of burgundy and lotharingia for centuries yet over this period they only managed to take a handful. And when did france win agaisnt all of europe the only instance I can think of is napoleon and again outside the game era, and he didn't win he died imprisioned in exile. He like later Hitler showed that taking land in war isnt that hard, holding on to it is the real challenge.
And no I'm not france bashing, france is the cradle of western civlisation. Through charlamagne (and those that came before him) we got kingdoms such as France germany italy aragon and so on. England got that legacy through the normans. Scandinavia second hand through the germans along with christianity. The same with poland and the balt states. Only the iberian peninsula (sans aragon) is not in some way a successor state to the frankish realm. There's a reason the muslim side of the crusades refered to all the crusaders as frankish.
And even after that france is the first country in europe to abolish the feudal structure and centralise power to the throne.The HRE never managed to do that (partly because of France), and brittain and spain also took longer (brittain really never went through a period of absolute monarchy). But becuase France was ahead in the start of the EU4 era they failed to pick up on the changes close to the end which resulted in the revolution. Which, kind of like the soviet regime in russia, spend money it didn't really have, achieved monumental things, but failed to hold on to them.
You realize Napolean died in 1821, you know the year the game ends? So how can the Napoleonic era not be in the games time frame? You're literally changing history to suit your opinion.
 
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Am I the only one that thinks that the interface for HRE is all wonky? It says Imperial Authority over the Emperor's CoA rather than over the Authority and the Authority is disturbingly off-centre.
 
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Am I the only one that thinks that the interface for HRE is all wonky? It says Imperial Authority over the Emperor's CoA rather than over the Authority and the Authority is disturbingly off-centre.
I didn't notice it myself, but now that you said it... I cannot unsee it.
 
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Add in Ming. Lately every few weeks people point out the ahistoricity of what happens to the Ming. Whether it's about how the Qing took over, or how Ming just Skittles up into a bunch of long dead states that hadn't existed for hundreds of years, people keep asking for a Ming/Qing overhaul as well.
That is very true. I'll make my list a top 3 instead and add it. I want to reiterate, however, that my suggestions are only meant to encourage further improvement. Keep up the good work!
 

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Am I the only one that thinks that the interface for HRE is all wonky? It says Imperial Authority over the Emperor's CoA rather than over the Authority and the Authority is disturbingly off-centre.


They should swap the religion symbol with the Imperial Authority banner and problem solved.