Hello all.

Sadly we can't yet talk about the big feature of Common Sense, Subject Interaction.. As we are completely redoing the interface for it, so it has to wait until next week.

Instead, we'll talk about a major change to the Holy Roman Empire, and give you the new achievements for 1.12.

Imperial Authority and Reforms

Imperial Authority has had a significant rework in 1.12. The old system tended to advance or retreat authority in big lurches and was very open to exploits. It also did not take into account how well the Empire was doing overall, and there was little benefit for the Emperor to maintain a large number of member states.

This has been changed in 1.12, as many of the events that gave Imperial Authority have been replaced with ticking values. The monthly change to Imperial Authority is now displayed in the interface, and will depend on factors such as:
- Whether there is peace in the Empire
- Total number of member states
- The amount of HRE territory held by outside powers
- The amount of HRE territory held by heretics & heathens
- The number of electors and free cities

An Emperor who is doing a good job will see their Imperial Authority naturally grow without having to resort to methods such as annexing states when authority is at 0 only to release them again later, while an Emperor that allows outside powers and heretics to dominate the Empire will find themselves unable to pass reforms entirely.

As part of this change, we've also revised the old 'Imperial Integrity' modifier for having more than 25 princes. We felt this modifier was both too strong and too arbitrary, so it has been removed. Instead, the HRE reforms were buffed to provide more of an incentive for members to vote for reform.

Achievements

Baltic Crusader - As Teutonic Order or Livonian Order conquer all of the Russia Region and make it Catholic.
Neither Holy, Nor German - Get 7 free cities in the HRE that are not of German Culture, as Emperor
Colonial Management - Have 3 colonial governors directly appointed by you at the same time.
Voting Streak - Get through 11 Issues in a row in Parliament
An Industrial Revolution - As GBR, all in english region, with 25 development.

City of Cities - Create a City with 60 development.
One Family to Rule them All - Have your dynasty on 8 thrones at the same time.
This is My Faith - Become Protestant and get maximum amount of traits.
Bleed them dry - Have 10 different War Reparations being paid to you at the same time.
Subsidize my Love - Subsidize 3 different allies at least 50% of their monthly income without running a deficit.

Take that Habsburgs! - As Hungary, Conquer all of Austria.
The White Elephant - As Ayutthaya conquers all provinces in Indochina region
The Buddhists strike back - As Ceylon conquer all of India and convert it to Theravada.
Better than Napoleon - As France, conquer Vienna, Berlin & Moscow.
Big Blue Blob - As France, hold 100 european core provinces before 1500.

A Full House - Have 3 Vassals & 2 Marches at the Same time.
Black Jack - Maintain 21 different overseas Subjects with more than 5 provinces each, without anyone having more than 50% Liberty Desire - Trade Companies does not count.
A Decent Reserve - Gain at least 1M Manpower.
The Six Nations - Form a federation of at least 6 nations as the Iroqious.
The Bohemians - Conquer and core Dublin as Bohemia.

Komenoi Empire - Make Trebizond into an Empire.
Lucky Lucca - As Lucca, own Lucknow!
A Fine Goosestep - Form Prussia and get 125% Discipline.
Meissner Porcelain - As Saxony own all chinaware provinces.
All Your Trade are Belong to Us! - Have highest tradepower in Genoa, Venice, & English Channel, while gaining 300 income per month.

 

[loup99]

Jean Baptist Bernadotte.

Bernadotte? He was not an as great general as you model it. I suggest you to read up on the history of Sweden after the Napoleonic Wars, and the Life of Bernadotte too. Napoleon did do a lot bigger campaigns than him, and seems to have been a better leader.

 

[Alliegorical]

Alexander the Great? He was a king not a dictator. A dictator is a man who abolishes a democratic system and gives himself absolute power. Inheriting absolute power doesnt a dictator make.

A dictator is actually just a legally appointed non-hereditary autocrat.

 

[TheDungen]

Yes, we can say that resistence of the people was not a problem, the problem is when this people is moved by local nobles, all the enlightened dispotism was about limitations and control of local nobles and church. War and good administration need a payday, to do that you need to raise taxes or have bureucrats, to do that you need to deal with local nobles and their ancient liberties and privilegia. This is why we had jurist forming the absolutist ideology, to centralize more the state, but sometimes worked (but never in a perfect way) and sometimes the head of king was taken (English revolution for example.)

Enlightened despotism? Well that principle comes into play very late in EU4's timeframe.

 

[TheDungen]

Bernadotte? He was not an as great general as you model it. I suggest you to read up on the history of Sweden after the Napoleonic Wars, and the Life of Bernadotte too. Napoleon did do a lot bigger campaigns than him, and seems to have been a better leader.

And yet everything went to hell for napoleon after he left.

 

[Admiral Fisker]

Jean Baptist Bernadotte.

Bernadotte was quite possibly the worst French general of the Napoleonic Wars. Do you happen to be a Swede by any chance?

"That braggart Bernadotte has been doing nothing but blunders since yesterday"
-Napoleon at Wagram.

 

[loup99]

And yet everything went to hell for napoleon after he left.

Well, if you read up on why he was choosed as the king of Sweden, I think you will understand. I dislike discussing matters when you do not know the whole story and confuses different events, so I beg you to please look up some facts.

 

[TheDungen]

Bernadotte was quite possibly the worst French general of the Napoleonic Wars. Do you happen to be a Swede by any chance?

"That braggart Bernadotte has been doing nothing but blunders since yesterday"
-Napoleon at Wagram.

Yeah, and I am well aware that Napoleon didn''t like him, those feelings were mutual. But that actually had nothing to do with his ability on the battlefield.

 

[loup99]

Yeah, and I am well aware that Napoleon didn''t like him, those feelings were mutual. But that actually had nothing to do with his ability on the battlefield.

Neither did it have with Napoleon's ability on the battlefield, as you implied in your previous post.

 

[TheDungen]

Well, if you read up on why he was choosed as the king of Sweden, I think you will understand. I dislike discussing matters when you do not know the whole story and confuses different events, so I beg you to please look up some facts.

He was chosen becuase they wanted to suck up to napoleon, and he did the exact opposite. Consider this though if it had been public knowledge that he and Napoleon detested each other would they have chosen him? Out of all Napoleons generals why did they chose him?

 

[TheDungen]

Neither did it have with Napoleon's ability on the battlefield, as you implied in your previous post.

And yet history shows a diffrent story. Those two fought each other in one war and who won? It wasn't napoleon.

 

[loup99]

He was chosen becuase they wanted to suck up to napoleon, and he did the exact opposite. Consider this though if it had been public knowledge that he and Napoleon detested each other would they have chosen him? Out of all Napoleons generals why did they chose him?

Read up on that.

And yet history shows a diffrent story. Those two fought each other in one war and who won? It wasn't napoleon.

Well, remember the context of the war. It was not really Bernadotte vs Napoleon, was it?

 

[TheDungen]

Napoleon not like Bernadotte had something to do with which class the two of them were born. Bernadotte was a self made man right while Napoleon came from the lower nobility or something like that. Or was it the other way around? I did read a book about it several years ago.

 

[Golladan]

What does this conversation have to do with the Imperial Authority changes in the HRE and the achievements?

Please continue this in off topic or a private conversation.

 

[TheDungen]

Read up on that.

Well, remember the context of the war. It was not really Bernadotte vs Napoleon, was it?

No but he was one of several who fought napoleon on the european front. And I wouldn't say his contribution was minor.

From wikipedia: In 1813 he allied Sweden with Napoleon's enemies, including Great Britain and Prussia, in the Sixth Coalition, hoping to secure Norway. After the defeats at Lützen (2 May 1813) and Bautzen (21 May 1813), it was the Swedish Crown Prince who put fresh fighting spirit into the Allies; and at the conference of Trachenberg he drew up the general plan for the campaign which began after the expiration of the Truce of Pläswitz

 

[Admiral Fisker]

No but he was one of several who fought napoleon on the european front. And I wouldn't say his contribution was minor.

Napoleon was overwhelmed by superior numbers, it had nothing to do with Bernadotte. Hell, Bernadotte was even criticized by most of the allied commanders for his performance in 1813-1814.

 

[Goodfortune99]

Please take this conversation to another thread. This is seriously derailing this thread from the topic of the DD. This Napoleon thing really has nothing to do with the DD.

 

[stilgarpl]

Alexander the Great? He was a king not a dictator. A dictator is a man who abolishes a democratic system and gives himself absolute power. Inheriting absolute power doesnt a dictator make.

Oliver Cromwell?

 

[blackchoas]

Napoleon not like Bernadotte had something to do with which class the two of them were born. Bernadotte was a self made man right while Napoleon came from the lower nobility or something like that. Or was it the other way around? I did read a book about it several years ago.

In what way is Napoleon not a self made man? His family was local nobility in Corsica but since his father sided with the French after they annexed the island once the revolution came and gave Corsica autonomy his family pretty much lost everything since they were seen as sellouts and traitors to the island. All Napoleon really had was a decent education his father had gotten him, that was it, he gains literally everything he ever gains off of his own merit

 

[Te. Kenzo]

Enlightened despotism? Well that principle comes into play very late in EU4's timeframe.

Enlightened dispotism is only one of the incarnation about the struggle of the central power to gain strenght on the privilegia and ancient liberties. Is a long voyage happening during all the timeframe of the game that you can find in the council created in aragon and Castille by Ferdinand and Isabel, the thinking of Hobbes, etc... (In theory we can say that this struggle started in the middle age.)

 

[Te. Kenzo]

Enlightened despotism? Well that principle comes into play very late in EU4's timeframe.

Enlightened dispotism is only one of the incarnation about the struggle of the central power to gain strenght on the privilegia and ancient liberties. Is a long voyage happening during all the timeframe of the game that you can find in the council created in aragon and Castille by Ferdinand and Isabel, the thinking of Hobbes, etc... (In theory we can say that this struggle started in the middle age.)