• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

Dev Diary #70 - The Facts about Artifacts

Hello everyone! Shoes here, back to talk about what is genuinely my favorite feature of The Royal Court — Artifact generation! One of the goals we had for Artifacts in CK3 was to ensure that the artifacts your rulers acquire will feel truly distinct from another. No longer will you have a royal treasury filled with identical swords — now you will have a royal treasury filled with an assorted variety of different swords!

Artifact Features​

All Artifacts in the game can have a set of Features that determine both how they were created as well as what they were made from. For example, ‘Oak’, ‘Ash’, and ‘Pine’ are all features of the ‘Wood’ type, which is used to make wooden furniture, spear shafts, book covers, etc., while ‘Engraved’, ‘Filigreed’, and ‘Painted’ are ‘Decoration’-type features which skilled craftspeople can use to decorate artifacts to make them more suitable for royalty.

The main use of Features is to create immersive descriptions for the artifact. Whenever a new artifact is created (such as from an Inspiration), it will gain a set of appropriate Features based on various factors including culture, geography, craftsmanship quality, wealth of the capital city, and event decisions made during the creation process. These Features are then used by the artifact’s description to emphasize any distinctive characteristics that it has! Note that that these Features will not be represented in the 2D and 3D art of the Artifact, as we have far more varieties of Feature than we could reasonably produce art for.

ArtifactExamplesItalian2.png

A screenshot containing 6 example Artifacts. NOTE:Under active development. Values and content subject to change.​

The thing I love about this system is not just that it will generate and display differences between two different axes your ruler commissions from a blacksmith — it is that those differences will be even more pronounced between Artifacts created in the different regions of the world. This means Artifacts that you loot from your defeated foes while on crusade or during overseas raids will be far more distinct from other Artifacts in your treasury, serving as a memento of the great distances you or your ancestors traveled on their journeys.

Of course, we have many types of Artifacts apart from weapons, and some of the material and craftsmanship differences become truly pronounced when you start looking at the type of Artifacts that are created explicitly for rulers to show off with! For example, a crown crafted in Afghanistan might feature pieces of its legendary lapis lazuli, while one made in the Baltic region could instead feature an impressive chunk of amber as a centerpiece. Different varieties of gemstones, cloth, lumber, shells, and animal horns… the range of possible combinations is truly vast!

ArtifactExamples2.png

A screenshot containing 6 example Artifacts. NOTE:Under active development. Values and content subject to change.​

Artifact Modifiers​

As you probably noticed in the above screenshots, every Artifact has a set of character modifiers which are applied to their owner while they have them equipped. Unlike in CK2, there are no ‘slotless’ Artifacts, so in order to gain any benefit from owning an Artifact at all you must have it equipped in one of your personal slots (Weapon, Armor, Regalia, Crown, Trinket) or court slots (Lectern, Throne, Wall Hanging, etc.). By ensuring you can only have a set number of artifacts benefiting a character at once, it becomes much easier for us to balance Artifacts and avoid the massive bonuses characters could gain in CK2 by accumulating vast libraries of forgotten lore, new inventions, and piles of statues.

One guiding principle we used while designing these Artifact Modifiers is the “no overtly supernatural effects” rule that guided us during the base game’s development. For example, a masterfully-forged weapon granting Prowess is straightforward and sensible, as characters fight better with a good weapon in hand. That same weapon boosting Advantage or Army Gold Maintenance is maybe less obvious, but can still be explained by serving as a symbol of hope and inspiration for the soldiers in an army and boosting their morale. Something like No Penalty For Crossing Rivers is nonsensical for an Artifact weapon though — we are not giving rulers access to the equivalent of a fully-functional Staff of Moses! Modders, of course, can add whatever modifiers they wish to an Artifact.

Historical Artifacts and Trinkets​


Of course, not all Artifacts will be artisanal masterpieces! The important thing for Artifacts is that they are meaningful to their owner in some way — this meaning doesn’t need to be purely economic or functional!

Instead, some Artifacts may have great historical value despite a plain appearance, such as Charlemage’s Throne. Other Artifacts might only hold sentimental value, such as a good-luck charm or a locket given to you by a lover which reduces Stress. Finally, some Artifacts may instead be relics of a rather… dubious provenance, yet still useful for those who believe in their power (or at least claim to).

bones3.png


Growing Pains​


Work on the Royal Court expansion is progressing, and it's looking better each day that passes. Now, we want to be upfront and say that it's going to take longer than many of us expect for the expansion to be released. There are many reasons for this; the expansion is very technically challenging and we're doing things we've never done before from the ground up. We want a Royal Court that looks as grand as the mechanics that support it.

We've also had the recent organizational changes that affect how we work, as many of you know we've split into three studios - and with change comes a period of adaptation. The team has grown significantly in recent times. A lot of time has been spent onboarding new members to the team, and we've onboarded more people than we ever have before. While it may have a negative short-term impact, it's definitely going to be a solid investment for the future of CK3, not only for the release of Royal Court, but also our future expansions, and beyond. Of course the extended period of working from home makes things take longer than expected. This is something we have touched on before due to how the working conditions have been recently.

Rest assured that we're still working as hard as we can and things are progressing nicely, and are aiming for a release later this year. We will of course have more exciting details to share in upcoming dev diaries.

For now we’ll leave you with this little extra teaser:
teaser.png
 
  • 166Like
  • 140Love
  • 10
  • 7
  • 4
Reactions:

Lorcalus

Corporal
42 Badges
Jan 7, 2019
47
340
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Knights of Honor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Prison Architect
  • Prison Architect: Psych Ward
  • Island Bound
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Teleglitch: Die More Edition
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
Looks very nice. I have a few questions though.

1) What is the prowess range that a weapon can have?
2) You mentioned armor but there is no picture of it. Does it provide similar bonuses as weapons?
3) How does inventory system looks?
4) Are artifacts located in your primary holding or they magically teleport with character? Getting them through sieges seems to give impression of having permanent location?
5) Are Crowns associated with certain titles (by giving you claim) or are just cosmetic with mentioned buffs? Is it possible to connect it with certain KIngdom/Empire, at least through modding?
6)Can you gift any artifact to anyone?
7) Any thoughts on possibility of relics being used also to create a shrine on barony level or just aformentioned ones?

Otherwise a very good dev diary. Also, which types of artifacts are free feature and which are part of paid DLC?
 
  • 12Like
  • 4
Reactions:

crowdemon

Lt. General
47 Badges
May 13, 2013
1.326
1.222
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Prison Architect
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
The artifacts look great, credit to the artist.
 
  • 5
  • 2Like
Reactions:

Prpht

Second Lieutenant
51 Badges
Nov 19, 2018
110
639
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Surviving Mars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Stellaris
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
It all looks very exciting, but I'm still worried about both artefacts and the court itself being fully DLC-locked features (AFAIK).

In case of culture changes, the base mechanism would be a part of a free patch. That means that all future content releases (especially flavour packs) can contribute to it and the variety would increase over time. It is not fully perfect, as the DLC-lock on culture divergence means no lifestyle perks and other modifiers affecting it, but it is a very self-contained feature, so the loss is not that big.

The court and artefacts, however...oh my... To think that there will be no new court visuals added in flavour packs. No new artefacts. No cross-interaction with any future systems. It makes me really sad. So much potential will be wasted because of the DLC policy.

Now, I know that the team has to be paid (and the stock owners need their profits) - but I still feel that a better business model (for the game quality, not even necessary for our wallets) is possible. Maybe something similar to the IDE licenses (you pay the fixed price -> you get the most up-to-date version of the product -> you can keep that particular version forever; you already own an older version -> you can upgrade to an updated one for a fixed fee). This will allow the devs to assume, that any person owning CK3 will (at some point) have the royal court unlocked too. And build upon that foundation.


EDIT: It turns out that the artefact system will be a part of the free patch! So most of the issues mentioned above are probably non-existent.
 
Last edited:
  • 7
  • 2Like
Reactions:

TheMind

Major
12 Badges
Apr 8, 2019
536
1.167
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Surviving Mars
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Imperator: Rome - Magna Graecia
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
It all looks very exciting, but I'm still worried about both artefacts and the court itself being fully DLC-locked features (AFAIK).

In case of culture changes, the base mechanism would be a part of a free patch. That means that all future content releases (especially flavour packs) can contribute to it and the variety would increase over time. It is not fully perfect, as the DLC-lock on culture divergence means no lifestyle perks and other modifiers affecting it, but it is a very self-contained feature, so the loss is not that big.

The court and artefacts, however...oh my... To think that there will be no new court visuals added in flavour packs. No new artefacts. No cross-interaction with any future systems. It makes me really sad. So much potential will be wasted because of the DLC policy.

Now, I know that the team has to be paid (and the stock owners need their profits) - but I still feel that a better business model (for the game quality, not even necessary for our wallets) is possible. Maybe something similar to the IDE licenses (you pay the fixed price -> you get the most up-to-date version of the product -> you can keep that particular version forever; you already own an older version -> you can upgrade to an updated one for a fixed fee). This will allow the devs to assume, that any person owning CK3 will (at some point) have the royal court unlocked too. And build upon that foundation.
They can always add something with future DLCs and/or flavor packs and/or free patches.
 
  • 4
  • 3Like
Reactions:

DeanTheDull

General
Aug 21, 2021
1.813
4.520
When you mention artifacts requiring court slots, what happens to court-slotted artifacts if you lose your court do to going back to a duchy or county level?

Say you play in the HRE, and you get your way to the Emperor throne, so you have a court. But for reasons you don't have Kingdom title (say you gave your last one out to a secondary heir to preserve your core duchy for your primary heir), and so when you lose an election you go down to Duke, which doesn't have a court.

Are the artifacts kept on succession but de-activated/put into 'storage'? Do they get destroyed because they're tied to a court that no longer exists? Does the new HRE Emperor 'inherit' them because the court is tied to a primary title?


(Seperately- would it be possible to mod for the Player to have a court even as a Duke? I assume the King/Emperor restriction partly saves processing power/memory, but mega-duke runs are fun too.)
 
  • 7Like
  • 1
Reactions:

Prpht

Second Lieutenant
51 Badges
Nov 19, 2018
110
639
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Surviving Mars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Stellaris
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
They can always add something with future DLCs and/or flavor packs and/or free patches.
But they need to be able to sell the flavour packs to people who have not bought TRC. Thus, no court/artefact related stuff in flavour packs.

EDIT: It turns out that the artefact system will be a part of the free patch! So most of the issues mentioned above are probably non-existent.
 
Last edited:
  • 7
  • 1Like
  • 1
Reactions:

DreadLindwyrm

Augustus of the North
86 Badges
Jan 31, 2009
10.553
13.197
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Sign Up
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Victoria 2
  • 200k Club
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
Some of those appear to have quite impressive bonuses.

I'm not sure I get why a sword is reducing the army maintenance cost, but I guess it's a thing?

My thought is how much *total* bonus in an area can you get if you've got "perfect" blue items in all slots, focussed on the same thing?
 
  • 3
  • 1Like
Reactions:

Salazard260

Captain
55 Badges
Jun 9, 2013
314
1.524
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Cities: Skylines Industries
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Stellaris
  • Empire of Sin
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Victoria 2
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
But they need to be able to sell the flavour packs to people who have not bought TRC. Thus, no court/artefact related stuff in flavour packs.
In Stellaris when they introduced the relic system, owning past DLCs would grant you acess to some relics. So I don't see why the content of a dlc couldn't interract with a previous dlc.
 
Last edited:
  • 13
  • 3Like
Reactions:

IndigoRage

General
81 Badges
Sep 9, 2012
2.108
5.621
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma Pre-order
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Imperator: Rome - Magna Graecia
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Victoria 2
  • War of the Roses
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
"Features based on various factors including culture, geography, craftsmanship quality, wealth of the capital city, and event decisions made during the creation process. These Features are then used by the artifact’s description to emphasize any distinctive characteristics that it has!"

Again, this and Inspirations makes this system sound very much like Dwarf Fortress.

Can't wait to relive having the practical cost of my one artifact sword being several years of income somehow despite my army being able to get them fine.
 
  • 8Like
Reactions:

DreadLindwyrm

Augustus of the North
86 Badges
Jan 31, 2009
10.553
13.197
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Sign Up
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Victoria 2
  • 200k Club
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
But they need to be able to sell the flavour packs to people who have not bought TRC. Thus, no court/artefact related stuff in flavour packs.
Court/artifact stuff could easily be part of the flavour packs - it'd just have to be a minor part of it.

"For those of you with Royal Court, this flavour pack also includes new options related to the culture of the Franks, including new tapestries and statues". Easy as that, and it encourages people to consider Royal Court.
 
  • 8
  • 3Like
Reactions:

Koyraboro

Captain
18 Badges
Apr 14, 2018
379
980
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Surviving Mars
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Can we loan or gift Artifacts to Courtiers and Vassals when it makes sense? Like lending to our general a legendary banner or entrusting our heir with the royal regalia?

Can some Artifacts be either impossible to repair, have the decay time be dynamic based on script, or not be subjected to decay at all?
 
Last edited:
  • 3Like
Reactions:

sreckom92

Field Marshal
16 Badges
Dec 17, 2012
3.929
7.652
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Surviving Mars
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • 500k Club
It would be nice if we could have a "Master Smith" character in our court, who would maintain our artifacts and increase their durability.
Perhaps a minor title for certain unlanded characters?
 
  • 5Like
  • 3Love
  • 1
Reactions:

Xain

Major
87 Badges
Nov 22, 2010
767
1.872
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
Note that that these Features will not be represented in the 2D and 3D art of the Artifact, as we have far more varieties of Feature than we could reasonably produce art for

Do you mean that not all of those features will be represented (but some will), or that no feature will be represented whatsoever?

And if the first answer is correct, can we hope that more features will be represented in the future or added through minor expansions or mods?
 
  • 3Like
Reactions:

IndigoRage

General
81 Badges
Sep 9, 2012
2.108
5.621
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma Pre-order
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Imperator: Rome - Magna Graecia
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Victoria 2
  • War of the Roses
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
Going to sound like a weird nitpick, but the triangular/pentagonal gem in the center of the crown art looks really off to me.

Do we have crowns with gems like that? It looks a bit too fantasy and unfitting for my taste. Like the faceting and style seem a bit 'advanced' for the period we're working with.
 
  • 4
  • 1Like
  • 1
Reactions:

Poseidon66

Corporal
55 Badges
Jun 15, 2021
27
474
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Prison Architect
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Imperator: Rome - Magna Graecia
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Knights of Pen and Paper 2
I think the books might feel more realistic, and a little more unique if it was named something more specific- perhaps "Maharaja Jayasimha's Guide to the Feast" or "Keeping Vassals Happy, by Maharaja Jayasimha" rather than the more generic name (Maharaja Jayasimha's About Diplomacy) it currently has.
 
  • 12
  • 5Like
Reactions:

Baron von Shoes

Content Designer
Paradox Staff
May 3, 2019
65
2.135
Looks very nice. I have a few questions though.

1) What is the prowess range that a weapon can have?
2) You mentioned armor but there is no picture of it. Does it provide similar bonuses as weapons?
3) How does inventory system looks?
4) Are artifacts located in your primary holding or they magically teleport with character? Getting them through sieges seems to give impression of having permanent location?
5) Are Crowns associated with certain titles (by giving you claim) or are just cosmetic with mentioned buffs? Is it possible to connect it with certain KIngdom/Empire, at least through modding?
6)Can you gift any artifact to anyone?
7) Any thoughts on possibility of relics being used also to create a shrine on barony level or just aformentioned ones?

Otherwise a very good dev diary. Also, which types of artifacts are free feature and which are part of paid DLC?
1) Currently up to +9 for the absolute highest quality weapons. As I've mentioned before, however, all values are subject to change during development.
2) Similar bonuses, yes, but some differences. For example, armor reduces the chance of injury or death in battle.
3) Not ready to show this off yet ;)
4) Unequipped and displayed artifacts are presumed to stay in your capital, and can be looted in a siege. Worn artifacts are presumed to be carried on your person, and cannot be looted in a siege.
5) The team is currently investigating this :)
6) Yes
7) The Royal Court expansion focuses on your Court, rather than minor baronies, so this will not be included in the expansion
It all looks very exciting, but I'm still worried about both artefacts and the court itself being fully DLC-locked features (AFAIK).

In case of culture changes, the base mechanism would be a part of a free patch. That means that all future content releases (especially flavour packs) can contribute to it and the variety would increase over time. It is not fully perfect, as the DLC-lock on culture divergence means no lifestyle perks and other modifiers affecting it, but it is a very self-contained feature, so the loss is not that big.

The court and artefacts, however...oh my... To think that there will be no new court visuals added in flavour packs. No new artefacts. No cross-interaction with any future systems. It makes me really sad. So much potential will be wasted because of the DLC policy.

Now, I know that the team has to be paid (and the stock owners need their profits) - but I still feel that a better business model (for the game quality, not even necessary for our wallets) is possible. Maybe something similar to the IDE licenses (you pay the fixed price -> you get the most up-to-date version of the product -> you can keep that particular version forever; you already own an older version -> you can upgrade to an updated one for a fixed fee). This will allow the devs to assume, that any person owning CK3 will (at some point) have the royal court unlocked too. And build upon that foundation.
Artifacts are a Free Feature, and available to everyone. This decision was made early in development for exactly the reasons you state — it allows us to continue adding new Artifacts and interactions with the Artifact system in future patches.

What is a Paid Feature are Inspirations, which serves as an important way to acquire Artifacts in The Royal Court (especially Court Artifacts). However, even without owning the DLC, we will have multiple ways to acquire Artifacts with the launch of the accompanying patch.
 
  • 47Like
  • 27Love
  • 26
  • 1
Reactions: