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Dev Diary #116 - Agrarian Research Techniques

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... Anyone watching? No? Good.

Ok, just you and me. Great, because I've only got a few wee lil morsels today and I don't want to share them with too many people. So let's all just keep this quiet and, if anyone asks, the dev diary was about how we research thirteenth century agrarian techniques in rural France. Got it? Good.

I want you to tell me what this historical character...
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... this historical character...
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... and this historical character all have in common.
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Figured it out? Yes? No? Waiting for someone else to scan through every character in the game before you hazard a guess? Ok, well, to be a bit fairer, it's got something to do with this:
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The list includes all the interactions in a particular category. You would not see all of them at the same time like this.
:D This has nothing to do with Wards & Wardens.

Finally, none of them are directly connected to this chap:
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Alright, that's all I've got for you today, but I expect to be going over that list again soon. And in detail. If anyone asks, remember: rural France, agriculture, thirteenth century, yada yada.

Till next time!
 
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Well, I do love a google & guess game.

Based on the beard, coat of arms, suit of armour and the 13th Century, I am going to guess that the last guy is Konrad von Thuringen, son of Otto I of Bavaria and very briefly Grandmaster of the Teutonic Knights. He was the first major noble to become a member of the Order.

I am 99.9% sure I am wrong but I wanted to be included!
 
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It's not Rurik's son. No I do remember. It's a king from the North, who participated in the 1st Crusade forgot his name. And th eother one is Gottfrie of Bouillon
 
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sigh, months with no real update from the team and we continue to get DDs that provide nothing.

Fun little teasers like this, and the monuments DD are nice when sprinkled in with meatier DDs, much less fun when nothing is detailed and every DD is a teaser.

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So here's a theory. Ostensibly we're talking about agrarian techniques in the thirteenth century. If we look at the letters highlighted in the image, you can create the word "disorders" using almost all of them. We know it's unconnected to Wards & Wardens. Each of these characters appears to be from a place that experienced widespread popular discontent. I'm thinking peasant revolts and uprisings.
 
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Can we expect era appropriate clothing and armours for characters in future?
It's quite sad that in high medieval era our kings and emperors still wear chainmail and nasal helmets. Where is the plate armour?

I would not mind If they come even as a flavour DLC, I just want my kings to have that shiny drip.
The high medieval era was from roughly 1000 AD to the late 1200s and in that time kings and emperors were still wearing chainmail and nasal helmets. Knights and men-at-arms only started transitioning to wearing more plate in the 14th century and full plate armor didn't become a thing until the late medieval era. But I agree that they should include more armor variations for the late stages of the game and should show the change in armor as time went on.
 
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The list includes all the interactions in a particular category. You would not see all of them at the same time like this.

So if it is all regency interactions, it would be impossible for any player character to see all of those interactions at once: either you are a ruler and do things like appoint a regent, or you are a regent and can then do regent-stuff.

I'm hyped for regencies!
 
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I feel like this is a bit of a Rorschach test. I looked at the "I" on the menu and thought "Invest Bishop on his episcopal throne", but I suspect that's just me really wanting an investiture mechanic and seeing what I want to see.

I am also disappointed that this is not an agricultural/economic theme, but we'd previously been told that the DLC mechanics were around characters and possibly on-map interactions, so the economic route seems implausible. Knowing the CK3 devs, I briefly wondered whether "agricultural techniques" was a reference to 'ploughing', in the sense of a male farmer pushing his hard blade into the soft fertile furrow of Mother Nature so that his seed can produce fruit. But on reflection I think they'd probably be less opaque and a glance at the OED shows that the metaphor was first published in English by one Will Shakespeare, so isn't medieval anyway (surprisingly for an agricultural economy). So could it maybe a reference to 'farming' agents and courtiers? That's reasonably common strategy game jargon.

Schemes.
DD is written as a plot entry, someone is explaining to you who are other plotters (first three historical characters). The list contains personal interactions (some of them could be schemes). The last character has a circlet, probably he is a target of a scheme. And of course, they don't have anything in common.
And all you've heard and seen here was medieval agricultural technology ;)
This makes the most sense of the suggestions I've read. And both CK2 Plots and CK3 Schemes have been under-exploited mechanics so far, so I like the look of this. Schemes that would give claims and other benefits to landless characters would be an interesting addition to the game.
 
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Lending credence to the idea that this has something to do with regencies is the clarification that the hints are not about Wards and Wardens, which would otherwise be an obvious assumption to make.
 
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You can see their feet. And they are wearing shoes. Up to now this was only visible in the Royal Court but not in events, etc. Connecting the characters to the map.
 
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