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As you know, we are quickly approaching the end of times, as a cycle of the Mayan calendar is about to end on December 21. Not to be outdone by the Mayans, we are doing our part to hasten the coming apocalypse by releasing a totally unhistorical DLC for Crusader Kings II called Sunset Invasion. The forum response to this minor and completely optional DLC was interesting to say the least. We expected a mixed response, but certainly not the degree of passion we've been witnessing.

The DLC, for those of you who don't know, features an invasion of Europe by an earlier and far more powerful Aztec civilization than we know from history, at some point after 1250. Arriving on vessels suspiciously similar to Norse long ships, Aztec explorers first make contact with a random coastal lord, offering obsidian beads and other exotic trinkets in exchange for land. Soon after, a huge invasion fleet arrives, disgorging tens of thousands of disciplined warriors. After their initial conquests, a reinforcement fleet might arrive, similar to how the Mongol invasions work. The Aztecs are pagans worshiping terrible and blood-thirsty gods, scaring the Muslims and Christians of Europe and North Africa witless with their mass sacrifices of live victims from among the subjugated peoples.

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In addition to the main events, Sunset Invasion features a load of flavor events, for example when the invaders conquer key cities, when they spread a new disease or when there is news from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. The Aztecs have unique portraits, units, and on-map shields. The typical cycle has them conquering a large swathe of land until they run out of steam and the inevitable Crusades and Jihads start to reverse the tide. Meanwhile, the Aztec Cuauhxicalli (altar stone bowls) will be overflowing with the hearts of good Christians and Muslims...

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So why did we decide to make this DLC in the first place? Well, the kernel of the idea goes way back to the original Crusader Kings and the Mongol invasion events. Playing on or near the eastern edge of the map is dangerous; almost suicidal if you are not strong enough by the 13th century. So, we've frequently joked about having a similar but rare event on the western side of the map, an invasion by something out of the Atlantic ocean to offset the imbalance a little bit; Atlanteans, Deep Ones, Vinlanders... or Aztecs. It's obviously a pretty crazy proposition and we never expected to put it into the game, but then someone mentioned a similar idea on the forum and the powers that be decided to greenlight it for a laugh.

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Now, let me offer you a rare insight into the psyche of the average Paradox dev (especially the veterans among us): we all love history and we love making historical games, but when you've spent a decade of your life delving into such crucial issues as getting the regnal numbers right for the Dukes of Aquitaine, ensuring that Eustace of Boulogne has his historical mustache, that the Pops of Chur have the right cultural and religious composition and that Operation Weserübung always happens roughly when it should, some of us yearn to do something wacky just once in a while. That's why Saint Andrew is Scottish in CKII, why there is a mission for Aragon to seize the throne of Gondar in EU3... and why we did Sunset Invasion. Not to worry though, we are not going to abandon our historical games or the attention to detail that makes them unique. That is why Sunset Invasion is optional. Just don't buy it if you don't like it.

Let me end with some points to assuage the fears of the historicity hardliners and squash some false rumors:
  • Sunset Invasion is a minor tongue-in-cheek DLC. We do not count it as a main expansion.
  • We have never said how many major DLC/expansions we will do. In fact, we do not know - it's mostly up to you.
  • The making of this DLC did not affect our regular release schedule at all. Most of the work was outsourced, done on our spare time or slotted in when someone had a bit of extra time.
  • Paradox Development Studio is not about to change course for its historical games.

Until next time, when I'll probably talk about our next major DLC. :)
 
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The Aztecs in the 13th century on Viking ships, huh? I guess that could happen, but that empire didn't come into existence until the 15th century. The Mayans were at their height at around this time. That said, I can see that the idea is to reverse the situation with the invasion of the new world.

A little digging on the subject of disease reveals that Syphilis is in fact a disease that very likely did not exist in the Western world before the end of the 14th century, and actually makes a lot of sense to be one of the new diseases brought by the Aztecs. I'm curious about what other new ailments will have been brought over by them.
 

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I'm wondering if part of the reason for this DLC was to give paradox PR some additional work/training.

Even if it wasn't, that seems to be the effect.
When you buy the company you can tell us what to work on, until then we will just have to muddle on without your guiding hand ;)
Reason: misallocated resources. So many of the games all ready released need so much work for improvement but yet whatever time was available, either on or off the clock, was applied to this DLC instead. I understand the necessesity to cover business expenses but quality shouldn't be compromised. Now please get back to real work. :)
There's so many threads and posts of that sort all over the forum it's ridiculous.

Yes it'd suck if paradox wasn't becoming historical... but it seems you guys posting heaps of threads on it because
1. it's the next thing going to be released by paradox (quite possibly anyway)
2. it's the next thing for ck2

If it's a crappy dlc that no one buys then who cares. If it's one that a fair few people buy because they want the gameplay addition of having a western invasion (for interesting late game gameplay) then it's not going to trigger the downfall of paradox making major historical games. Personally I couldn't care, I just love the games and if their next game was a europa fantasy alis I'd definitely be 100% up for playing it. However it's certainly understandable that lots of people want a major publisher of historical strategy games to continue making them and there's really no evidence (and has specifically been stated repeatedly by the devs) that they're gonna stop making historical games.

I predict that this whole mania is gonna die off after the next dlc is released and everyone's gonna be like what was with the forum that month!?
 

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I'm curious, what elective laws are the Aztecs going to have on arrival? From what I understand of their history, the emperor is selected by a counsel of elders, and isn't necessarily related to the old emperor. Additionally, while there isn't any record of a female Emperor, women do seem to be valid land owners and seem to be recognized as having similar rights as men.
 

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Looking forward to this Paradox. I started another game as an Irish count awhile ago, because, well, that's who I really want to be most...But, it still doesn't feel like much of a challenge after awhile, in fact, it almost feels like I'm cheating. It's just so easy for me to become emperor of Britanna and expand from there. So I can't wait for the Aztecs to get medieval on my hiney (or at least give me a little extra challenge to master). Thanks! :D
 

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A good dev diary about an optional DLC I'm not a fan of. Though I don't consider myself a historicity hardliner, but I do like history and thus historicity, in fact that's the reason I buy and like these kind of games. In other words this DLC is not my cup of tea, but if some one likes this be my guest:).
However no debate between fantasy hardliners and historicity hardliners was ever going to be fruitful;); hopefully both camps can respect the fact that tastes can differ:).
 
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Man, you guys have started directly replying to disgruntled customers with passive-aggressive comments. Looks like the criticism has really gone under your skin.
 

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I'm curious, what elective laws are the Aztecs going to have on arrival? From what I understand of their history, the emperor is selected by a counsel of elders, and isn't necessarily related to the old emperor. Additionally, while there isn't any record of a female Emperor, women do seem to be valid land owners and seem to be recognized as having similar rights as men.

I'm interested in this as well. Although I... am lukewarm about the DLC, if they possibly added some new elective mechanics it would be wonderful.
 

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Now with the announcement, there have been ideas for zombie, Chthulu, and demon invasions. And then there is my idea of an african invasion.


A Bantu tribe in Modern-day Botswana and Zambia discovers a plant that can be made into an explosive powder. They make these into powerful lances and use them to conquer the area. Just as the tribesmen look north for new lands to conquer, they discover that it can propel a projectile in a blowgun at high speeds. Europe must now fear a threat far greater than the Aztecs, the might of firearms...