Greetings!

Today is the release of Northern Lords, and with it the free 1.3 patch that we’ve dubbed ‘Corvus’ in honor of Odin’s ravens! We’ve teased parts of the patch notes in previous Dev Diaries, but this time we’ll post them all - roughly 13 pages of changes and fixes, and this time there won’t be any omissions or [REDACTED] text!

There are some notable free additions we’ve not mentioned yet that we’d like to show off! Most of them would have been dead giveaways for the theme of the Flavor Pack, but as Freya’s cat is out of the bag now - let's get to it!


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[Image: Norse CoAs and Mottos]
We’ve added numerous new Coat of Arms elements for the norse to create even more variation! Worth noting is that most titles in Scandinavia will dynamically switch which CoA they use based on if the holder is pagan or not.

There’s also a slew of new Norse mottos that refer to their pantheon of gods (the traits of the founder of a house heavily determines which one they pick).



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[Image: Custom Faith Icons]
There are some new Norse-themed Custom religion icons for you to choose from when creating a new Faith, some which draw inspiration from other religions - something that might suit a faith created by a Norse ruler that’s left their home far behind!



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[Image: Special Buildings]
We’ve added several new Special Buildings to Scandinavia and Eastern Europe - the full list is in the patch notes, but here’s three that start as constructed in the 1066 start date.



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[Image: Chin Goatee pic]
While restructuring the genetic system for Hair & Beards one of our artists stumbled upon a treasure - a lost beard! For some reason this magnificent piece of chin decoration had hidden itself well, but we dug it up, and now it’s available in-game!



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[Image: Clear Notifications]
When you hover the title of a notification, there’s now a button that you can right-click to dismiss all currently open notifications!



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[Image: Baronies in Scotland]
As previously mentioned, there are a few more areas on the map that’s been given an update. We’ve added a few new baronies to the northern parts of Scotland. Greatly reducing the average barony size.



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[Image: Iceland]
Iceland now has a total of nine baronies spread across four counties, up from the previous five (and rather large) baronies in two counties.



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[Images: Sápmi]
Finally, it felt like a good opportunity to also give Sápmi some attention, being in the same area as the theme of the Flavor pack and all. The duchy layout has been tweaked slightly, adding a new duchy and adjusting the shapes of the existing duchies. Then we’ve added a number of baronies, but in order to avoid having too many baronies per county, corresponding counties have been added as well. The average number of baronies in a given county should therefore be roughly the same as before. You can also spot some new lakes and rivers, increasing the visual variety of the area.


Now heed the advice of Huginn and Muninn, and drink deep from the well of Mímir - here are the patch notes in all their glory:

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# Free Features
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  • Winter is coming to the map! Certain regions will now experience icy winters, ranging from mild to harsh. Snow will spread on the map, ranging from scattered patches of frost to snow-covered landscapes. Snow will blow in the wind with increasing intensity, and you’ll hear the ambience of winter adapt to the cold and harsh reality of the area you’re looking at.
    • Mild Winters will very slightly increase the supply use of your units.
    • Normal Winters will noticeably increase the supply use of your units.
    • Harsh Winters will see supplies drain quickly, more fatal casualties will be taken, and the defender of a battle will get an advantage.
  • Added the Winter Soldier commander trait, which enhances warfare when fighting in provinces affected by winter. This new trait will appear naturally on characters who reside in wintery areas, or can be acquired through events.
  • Men-at-arms can now come with bonuses or penalties for fighting in Normal or Harsh winter. Cavalry will generally do poorly, especially heavy cavalry, while special units such as Himalayan Mountaineers will excel.
  • A new personal combat system has been added, which allows two characters to face off against each other in a multi-stage duel. Guide your character by selecting which attacks to go for, and hopefully best your opponent without getting too injured yourself! These duels can be to the death, or to first blood.
    • While this system has been hooked into several places, the most prominent change is that the ‘Stalwart Leader’ perk in the Chivalry Focus Tree now allows you to duel your Rivals. Winning/losing these duels adds stress to the loser and de-stresses the winner.
  • Added the ‘Poet’ trait to the game. This trait can be acquired via events, and allows you to use an interaction to send poems to other characters. These poems have different themes, such as Strife, Legacy, Romance or Mourning. They cost prestige to send, and can increase your target’s opinion of you, should they accept. You can also send scathing poems about your rival’s Incompetence, to cause them stress!
  • Enhanced the hair & beard inheritance gene system. Instead of inheriting specific haircuts from your parents, you now inherit a ‘hair type’ gene such as ‘straight’, ‘wavy’, ‘curly’ or ‘afro’. The actual haircut a character uses is now based upon their culture. This means that the King of France won’t braid his beard like a Viking just because his grandfather happened to be Norse!
    • NOTE: Existing characters from save games made before 1.3 might get a new haircut or become bald, and old ruler designer DNA data will not have hair/beard.
    • This system does not affect the Barbershop or Ruler Designer, where you’re still able to choose whatever hair you want.
  • Added a vast number of new Coat of Arms for Norse rulers, including mechanics for having Scandinavian titles switch between their Norse and Christian CoA versions depending on the holder’s faith and culture.
  • Added new Special Buildings in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe, including the Golden Gate of Kiev, Danevirke, Temple of Uppsala, and more!
  • Added 8 new Norse-inspired Custom Faith icons, ranging from Midgard Serpents, to Thor’s Hammers, to runic versions of Crosses and Crescents.
  • Added the ‘Chin Goatee’ beard variant

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# Balance
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  • Men-at-Arms, Special Troops and Mercenaries now have travel time and, like Levies, have a penalty to disband/re-raise during wars. Travel time is based on the distance to the realm capital. This should effectively stop being able to ‘teleport’ MaA across the map
  • The renown cost of acquiring Dynasty Legacies has been overhauled. Instead a linear progression (1000, 2000, 3000… etc.) the cost is now dynamic. It should be much easier to unlock your first few Legacy perks, but significantly harder to unlock all Legacies in the game.
  • All Dynasty Legacy perks have been rebalanced. Their effects should now be much more tangible and interesting.
  • The Yearly Event pools have been restructured, and a lot of triggers loosened or removed outright. In practice this means that you’ll see more events when playing (roughly one random event from this pool every 4 years rather than every 5-6 years). This also means that some extremely rare events will now appear more frequently.
  • The Infirm trait events have been moved from the Yearly pulse to the Health pulse. What this means is that all characters can now become infirm, not only rulers. It is also much more likely for elderly characters to actually get the trait.
  • Increased cost for sale of titles from 150 to 500 prestige
  • Increased cooldown on extort subjects from 2 to 5 years
  • Hosting parties now give much more relative progress for gaining Reveler traits than attending parties hosted by others, and temperate characters do not get reveler progress for attending parties at all.
  • Reduced acceptance bonus on Offer Vassalization from 'wide difference in rank' and 'rightful liege'
  • Reduced fascination gain from learning from +2 to +1
  • Blocked joining a tyranny war if you can't join a faction against your liege
  • It is now possible to recruit children from prison as long as they're not heir to one of their liege's titles
  • Reduced inherent health penalty on flagellant from -0.5 to -0.15
  • Reduced chance of characters randomly contracting lover's pox & great pox
  • Improved the candidate selection for republican mayors: they can be of the province culture as well as their liege’s culture, will prefer to be succeeded by members of their court, and women can be selected when it makes sense
  • As the Patron of a holy order, you can now hire it even if it is already hired by someone else (except another player). You pay the full piety cost to the person who has already hired it, rather than the usual hiring it for free
  • Being more than 5000 men above the supply limit now causes you to lose supply faster, will scale from 5/month at 5k to 10/month at 10k
  • Buildings in holdings in the domain limit grace period are now disabled entirely
  • Creating a Head of Faith title now requires 1 more holy site (2 for Spiritual, 3 for Temporal). Creating a Spiritual HoF title now costs 300g rather than 50 to 300g based on your income
  • Fixed Absolute Control having no effect whatsoever on levies
  • Grandchildren and Great-Grandchildren should no longer wander off, following the same rules as Children
  • Having a truce on someone now prevents you from raiding them
  • If you're ordering your Spymaster to find secrets in your liege's court and you are your liege's Spymaster and are Disrupting Schemes, you no longer disrupt your own Spymaster's scheming
  • Imprisoning and Executing characters of no particular status (i.e. lowborns) now yield much less tyranny
  • Married characters will no longer wander off if they are in a realm where they are subservient to the other part of the marriage, and their spouse is in the same court
  • Non-republican Barons now get married and produce a family more consistently
  • Reducing the size of MaA regiments can no longer give you Fame
  • Siblings now inherit ahead of parents
  • The Raid Speed modifier now affects armies you command rather than armies you own
  • The Witch Coven modifier now gives Disease Resistance rather than Health
  • When you convert faith, prisoners are no longer guaranteed to convert. They will only do so if they'd accept if they were free. Conversion of prisoners as a direct result of faith conversion no longer releases them from prison
  • When you use Grant to Low Noble, the resulting baron now gets the +20 "Received Barony" opinion towards you
  • You can now Disinherit people outside your diplomatic range
  • You will no longer get stress from Parents or Siblings dying of old age when they're 65 or older (if they're friends or lovers you might still get stress, though)
  • Your own player heir being the player heir of their host no longer prevents you from inviting them to your court
  • Your rival flinging a corpse at your castle now gives you an imprisonment reason if they're your subject.
  • AI rulers who form an alliance in the middle of a war now wait 1 month before calling their new ally to arms.
  • Added a strait across Mälaren, between Sigtuna and Tälje.
  • Adjusted the AI Acceptance for family members and vassals offering to educate their liege's children
  • Feudalizing as a Tribe no longer requires all Tribal-Era innovations, now you only need 70% (9) of all Civic & Military Innovations
  • Magyars now invade immediately in 867 by default
  • Moved the Argentiera Mines in the county of Cagliari to the county capital, to put it directly under the county owner.
  • Paulicianism's pluralism doctrine is now Fundamentalist instead of Righteous
  • The AI's willingness to white peace out of long wars now scales with how far in debt they are
  • The Estonian culture now starts with the Longboats innovation
  • The Pope is now more willing to lift excommunications, but doing so costs the excommunicated a Level of Fame
  • When a Claimant Faction succeeds in their goal, they will free their Claimant from prison if they were a prisoner of the old title holder
  • Gave Haesteinn the adventurer trait, made him a bit less vulnerable to old age
  • Adjusted the starting event troop Men-at-Arms of some important rulers, gave some event troops where they were lacking entirely, and added a few to Leon to stop Wessex gobbling them up all the time

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# AI
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  • A desperate AI will no longer ignore hostile attrition when selecting a new order target
  • A unit stack trying to merge will take into account if the target unit stack is movement locked or retreating when selecting where to move
  • Added a new stance for when AI is considered desperate
  • All vassals are now able to declare war no matter how deep down in the vassal tree they are
  • Counter-raid AI will now look at current strength rather than max strength when deciding if it has enough strength to fight raiders
  • Counter-raid units will now check if their current strength is enough to attack a raiding unit
  • Discouraged unit AI to switch to a new target closer by if it means heading away from current target
  • Encouraged unit AI to stick with current target if being very close to it
  • Encouraged unit AI to switch to a new target if passing very close to it
  • Increased min strength required to fight raiders from 60% to 75%
  • Lowered target selection bonus for neighboring friendly territory from 300 to 100
  • Moved target score values for supporting a player unit into defines
  • No longer avoids a river crossing due to threat only
  • No longer avoids a river crossing if it will be defender in the following combat
  • Rebalanced target scoring to focus more on continuing and lifting sieges and less on chasing after enemy units
  • Removed target selection bonus for neighboring neutral territory
  • Should now be more careful about nearby enemy units when selecting a target province to go to
  • Target selection bonuses for friendly & neutral territory correctly added
  • The AI is now better at supporting player units that lack strength to siege
  • Told the AI that if it is a count and is above its domain limit, it might be a *really* good idea to create a duchy
  • Told the AI that maybe it shouldn't build more holdings while it is already above its domain limit
  • War coordinators will no longer support player units that go outside of relevant areas for the war
  • When declaring wars, only count an ally's strength if the ally is at peace
  • Will no longer be held up in sieges unless the units are necessary for the siege to progress
  • Will prioritize adjacent targets when hunting nearby enemy units unless a target further away is at least four times bigger

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# Interface
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  • It’s now possible to dismiss all notifications at once. Hovering the title of a notification will make a button appear. Right-clicking this button will dismiss all notifications, left-clicking it will dismiss that specific notification.
  • Updated the Current Situation widget with a fresh new coat of paint. It’s now darker with more muted colors, and some flavorful decor.
    • Current Situation entries now only show ‘X’ to close when hovered
  • Hovering over the unit plate of a friendly unit now shows its full path. Great for seeing where your allies are going
  • Players now receive a warning when their enemy in a war forms a new alliance
  • Added a Current Situation item for hooks about to expire; it'll tell you when a hook expires in less than 3 months
  • Added a message that lets the employer know if their councilors leave because of marriage or title inheritance
  • Building a new holding will now in the Domain view say you're building the holding type (E.G., "Castle") rather than the name of the main building (E.G., "Motte")
  • Ensured scheme success and secrecy modifiers show up as percentages in all cases
  • Fixed "County of Byzantion becomes the new Realm Capital of Unlanded of"
  • Fixed "Different Faith Popular Opinion" reductions being shown in red rather than green
  • Fixed a case where we would show an event chance higher than 100%. Yes, you're so good at your job that you can brag you've got a 173% chance of success, we all know. 100% will have to do
  • Fixed clicking on units in the outliner that are in battle not having any effects. Now it'll select the battle
  • Fixed constructing a holding of a type you can't hold not giving you a notification when construction completes
  • Fixed effect and triggers being localized incorrectly when you're observing a character, showing things like "you is" rather than "you are"
  • Fixed holy orders not being included in some character strength breakdowns
  • Fixed incorrect grammar in Offer to Join War for a war you've already joined
  • Fixed it being possible to change your liege's spouse task
  • Fixed right-clicking on a toast often not dismissing it. This also fixes right-clicking a toast with an army selected causing a move order to be issued
  • Fixed scheme modifiers losing their name in success and secrecy breakdowns after saving and reloading
  • Fixed some dynasty-named titles leaving out their rank. E.G., "Seljuk" instead of "The Seljuk Empire"
  • Fixed the "Defender Advantage" bonus on buildings having the Command Modifier icon
  • Fixed the "modify feudal contract" button showing up even if you're not feudal
  • Fixed the "you're pledged in a GHW" warning saying you're pledged against the person you're trying to declare war on rather than the actual GHW defender
  • Fixed the Assault Fort button not having a proper tooltip
  • Fixed the Assault button being visible even when you're not the siege leader
  • Fixed the Continue and Load buttons on the main menu having no tooltip if there's no save to load
  • Fixed the Force Vote window saying that you'll use a weak hook twice
  • Fixed the autosave indicator getting forever hidden until you restart the game if you open the pause menu
  • Fixed the concubine buttons in the character window not being greyed out when not clickable. Fixed the concubine buttons always complaining about lack of a target. The concubine buttons now cleary tell you when there's no one available to serve as a concubine
  • Fixed the game saying your tax is reduced due to control when you're actually getting a bonus thanks to Absolute Control
  • Fixed the game sometimes showing you entirely spurious blockers about occupations in unrelated titles when you try to revoke a title
  • Fixed the knight event tooltip in the battle summary being a semi-transparent mess
  • Fixed the main building in the county view (E.G., "Castle") not showing you when it's disabled
  • Fixed the main menu briefly showing the default characters when going into then back out of Load Save
  • Fixed the on-map construction models disappearing after saving and reloading
  • Fixed the reverse sort button in the Converting Vassals window having no effect
  • Fixed the siege window showing an incorrect # of men when there's more than one sieging army
  • Fixed the sorting of the candidate list resetting every time someone votes
  • Fixed the time to supply state change estimate sometimes being negative, or being off by a month or two
  • Fixed the title destruction cost being displayed incorrectly when the title has laws; now it shows the full cost accounting for law removal
  • Fixed the war declaration screen not always showing all blockers on declaring war. E.G., it wouldn't tell you that you can't declare on a fellow vassal that's fighting your liege
  • Fixed war borders not showing up when you select someone who is at war unless you too are at war
  • If you're both married and betrothed, the game will no longer refer to your spouse as your betrothed
  • Improved on the interaction tooltip, especially how it looks when the recipient won't accept. Also made minor improvements to acceptance breakdown both here and in the interaction window itself
  • Included councillors to the Increase Opinion suggestion, even those who are unlanded
  • Increased the # of decimals for Piety/Prestige per Dread gain to two
  • Make sure Garrison tooltips don't show decimals for building contributions
  • Opening the dynasty tree now pans to the house you opened it from. It'll center on the House Head, or if you're a member of the house, you
  • Show correct denomination of time in the tooltip when destroying a title
  • Split in Half now only selects the original army
  • The "Mercenary Company Contract expiring" alert now tells you when it expires
  • The Create MaA type list is now sorted by base type (E.G., Armored Horsement and Cataphracts will be together) then by name
  • The Domain view now tells you when buildings/holdings will complete
  • The army tooltip's supply info now has a tooltip; the same as shown for supplies in the army window
  • The combat view no longer shows a "defensive buildings" note in the advantage breakdown, but instead shows the exact buildings and similar causing that advantage
  • The first letter of a title name is now capitalized in the load save menu
  • The holding tooltip of empty holdings now tells you about holding construction
  • The marriage interaction's "chance of children" text now has a tooltip when the chance is None explaining why
  • The outliner will no longer show dead characters' opinion of you
  • Vassal contract modifiers like Council Rights Guaranteed are now consolidated in tooltips if there's multiple vassals with them. E.G., you won't get 5 entries in opinion tooltips saying "Council Rights Guaranteed: -2" but instead one entry saying "Council Rights Guaranteed: -10"
  • Coat of arms are now visible in the outliner entries of holdings
  • Moved Invite to Court Interaction to Vassals and Court Category
  • The ‘Raise Runestone’ decision is now a major decision, so you don’t miss when it’s usable (both the vanilla and Northern Lords version)

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# Art
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  • Replaced anachronistic pineapple with historically-appropriate melon.
  • Fixed numerous clipping issues for female ‘rational’ personality animations.
  • Pregnant spymasters will no longer stab themselves
  • Dead HRE emperors now have the Reichskrone in their portrait. Only emperors with the HRE as their primary title wear the Reichskrone
  • Ensured raised knights always wear armor and helmets. Ensured councillors who are knights don't wear armor or helmets unless they're raised

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# Localization
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  • Fixed an issue where a doctrine text string would show up in Debug pink in Spanish
  • Fixed missing loc for the Norwegian name for Oriel/Dun Dealgan
  • Added Disgraced and Sinner levels to lists of prestige and piety levels
  • Added elope scheme in the game encyclopedia
  • Added localization for "Any Sub Realm County"
  • Added missing "Traitor" opinion name
  • Added some extremely important omitted relation strings, such as 'brother-consort' and 'mother-concubine'
  • Cleaned up some decision text in Russian
  • Fixed some instances of tooltips where title names were not being capitalized correctly
  • Grammar fix in one of the death management texts
  • Made sure the toasts for a beneficiary invalidating makes sense
  • Removed faulty space in inheritance toast
  • Updated broke Holy Order tooltip localization for Borrow Gold from Holy Order decision
  • Updated first person -> second person in religious doctrine triggers file
  • Updated scope used for localization in GHW event
  • Updated scripted value used for long pilgrimages
  • Updated the Liberian witch god's name
  • We are now less excited about you clicking on important actions!
  • Changed Sussex name to match other Saxon titles
  • Text in character view no longer overflows in russian

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# Game Content
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  • All formerly inaccessible Religious Clothes/Headgear are now accessible in the Barbershop. You want to wear the Pope’s hat and Steppe Pagan robes? Go right ahead!
  • Norse Houses now have access to a wider pool of Motto’s, focusing on their many gods. Deceitful characters can reference Loki, brave ones Thor, etc.
  • Added a small interaction to pardon a subject’s crimes in exchange for opinion.
  • Added a few new death reasons for berserkers to execute in battle, such as cleaving people in half or viciously dismembering them!
  • A guardian might now get a hook on their ward, should they be of a greedy/deceitful persuasion
  • You can now offer concubines and consorts to other characters!
  • When Offering Vassalization to a feudal ruler, you may now offer a more lenient Contract to improve their chance of accepting.
  • Changed the 'De Jure Vassal' modifier in the Offer Vassalage interaction to 'Rightful Vassal' for balance and clarity
  • Clarified the maximum bonus from Military Strength in the Offer Vassalage interaction
  • Added a narrative event for converting to a new Faith, as well as a notification for when your liege converts to a new Faith.
  • Replaced Tengriism's 'Sky Burials' tenet with 'Warmonger' which is more accurate for the time-period
  • Rulers with an active Vow of Poverty now wear appropriately drab clothing, regardless of rank
  • You now get told properly when you inherit your first empire tiered title
  • Your head of faith and religious peers will now care if you found a holy order
  • Jakub's pet rock stolen by parties unknown
  • Added a decision for independent Norse rulers to have their realm embrace local traditions
  • Norse name lists now use standardised Old Norse spellings & contains significantly fewer late period Christian names, Norwegian name lists updated to the same plus various older Christian names

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# User Modding
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  • Implemented HUD skin support. Different HUD skins can now be triggered based on arbitrary triggers, such as player culture.
  • Added winter_movement_speed modifier
  • Added dynasty_num_unlocked_perks trigger that checks the number of unlocked dynasty perks
  • The game now handles transitioning between updated map setups in a smoother way, this should make it easier to keep save compatibility between different versions, and makes it easier to update for example map mods
  • Add force_character_skill_recalculation effect to immediately update a character's skills
  • Added a trigger title_held_years to check how many years a title has been held if valid
  • Add save_opinion_value as and save_temporary_opinion_value_as which function like the scope_value equivalent but save the opinion of the scoped object to the target to avoid recalculating opinion locally multiple times.
  • Added console command set_date
  • Added console commands Log.ClearErrorLog and Log.ClearAll
  • Added effect debug_trigger_event, which will like the console command print out the trigger and immediate effects of the event
  • Added trigger time_to_hook_expiry
  • Allow mood music tracks to have an is_valid for it they should be considered when picking the next track.
  • Allow mood music tracks to weight the chance of being picked.
  • Fix generate_coa giving the same result on the same object, it is now more properly random.
  • Fixed adding a modifier with a dynamic duration causing the effect to say it'll last 0 days
  • Made ai_can_target_all_titles much cheaper for the AI
  • Made the geographical_region trigger much cheaper
  • Message types that are used by the code will now error if they are not present when initialising the game.
  • Removed .dds extension in message icon paths, they are now assumed to be a .dds like other pathed texture databases.
  • Split out defender_holding_advantage from defender_advantage, for use in defensive buildings and the like
  • The debug_event console command now prints out the immediate effects of the event
  • The effects to add timed modifiers now support a "desc" field. This is a dynamic description that'll be resolved when the modifier is added. It'll show in the tooltip for the modifier in places like the character window. You might still want a static description (modifier name + "_desc") for the sake of the tooltip when adding the effect
  • The hostile_county_attrition modifier now also affects the minimum casualties
  • You can now right-click Errorhoof to clear the error log
  • target_is_vassal_or_below and is_vassal_or_below_of no longer consider non-rulers (E.G., courtiers) to be "vassals". target_is_liege_or_above and is_liege_or_above_of still work for courtiers

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# Databases
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  • William the Bastard is now clean-shaven, as per Norman tradition!
  • Nizhny Novgorod is now independent in 1066, and held by a Mari Finnish pagan.
  • Made more lands in Eastern Europe pagan on game start in 1066.
  • Added a few new baronies to Scotland.
  • Fixed the holding setup in the counties of Miran and Kumtag, both of which had more holdings than intended on game start.
  • Iceland has been updated with new baronies and counties! Increasing the number of baronies to nine, from five, spread across four counties.
  • Many important and significant holdings (such as London, Alexandria, or Baghdad) now start the game with additional buildings already constructed.
  • Moved out Rurik's brothers to their own dynasty in order to avoid them floating around in the Rurikid dynasty tree.
  • Overhauled the barony layout in Sapmi. A few new baronies were added, and existing borders have been updated and significantly improved.
  • The Abbasids now have their capital in the historical capital of Samarra in 867.
  • The De Jure capital of England is now set to Winchester in 867 and London in 1066.
  • Updated Ireland with new baronies and counties for increased granularity! Certain baronies were much too large in size and have been split accordingly.
  • Updated a number of counties across Italy by adding additional baronies, increasing the average number of baronies per county and greatly reducing the number of two-barony counties.
  • Updated the county setup in Croatia and Serbia by splitting existing counties into new ones. A few counties had too many baronies, and these have been spread out across multiple counties.
  • Vladimir & Yaroslavl are now vassals to Vsevolod of Pereyaslavl.
  • Updated the traits for Robert of Apulia and his son Bohemond

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# Bugfixes
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  • Children should no longer incorrectly become Lowborn if at least one of their (known) parents carry a Dynasty
  • The Pope will no longer grant himself Rome every year, and gain Piety for it
  • Fixed several instances of wounds being applied using the wrong effect, causing them to never heal
  • You will no longer get asked to contribute to wars multiple times in a row if you joined several of your ally’s wars at the same time (paying once is enough!)
  • Regiments can no longer have modifiers stacked to the point where they reach 0 toughness, as that would break the combat code.
  • 3rd party or allied armies will no longer prevent you from using Station Besiegers
  • Don't show the mouse drag selection when entering the pause menu
  • Ensured all the restrictions on concubinage are properly enforced
  • Fixed "Different Faith Popular Opinion" having a significantly larger effect than stated
  • Fixed Great Holy Wars invalidating rather than changing target if someone for instance takes the target's primary title
  • Fixed a case where loading a save from an older patch could result in the holder of a county not holding the capital barony, leading to odd issues down the line
  • Fixed a case where loading an old save would result in some map names being messed up (showing Iceland or Tibet in affected areas)
  • Fixed a case where negotiating an alliance would cause it to expire instantly due to somehow picking two characters who are not married as the alliance reason
  • Fixed a crash that could happen due to claims on nonexistent titles
  • Fixed being vastly over your domain limit outright blocking building construction, rather than simply the effects of buildings
  • Fixed claims not getting removed when a title completely ceases to exist and is gone forever
  • Fixed cloud saves missing in main menu save list when running the Paradox Plaza version of the game
  • Fixed cultural opinions, E.G., "Norwegian Opinion: +20" doing nothing if the person with the modifier is not a ruler
  • Fixed holding incomes sometimes failing to update; now they'll be at most a month out of date
  • Fixed in certain cases it being possible for units to join on the wrong side of a combat if they're in the province when the combat starts, and are hostile to one side rather than directly at war with them
  • Fixed incomes often being significantly off after loading a save or starting a fresh campaign. This in some cases also significantly increases the starting gold of some characters, especially those with special buildings
  • Fixed it being possible to set a childhood focus on an adult if they come of age while you have the focus window open. Now the window will close instead
  • Fixed prestige and piety gains in extremely large battles (hundreds of thousands of troops on both sides) sometimes having an overflow issue causing them to go negative
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Sounds like they're consistent about their bad communications strategy at least then. Thanks for the heads up, I can avoid buying any further Paradox games knowing this.

Patch was always going to drop friday closing time Sweden, after they'd had a week of free QA at the playerbase's expense. They just don't care enough about the pain the bug is causing to move the hotfix release forward, easier for them to do it all in one go - who cares if the DLC is functioning for days after release in the meantime.

Also I can't imagine how complex the issue is seeing as how it was perfectly functioning recently. If it really takes them this long to work out how to undo what they themselves just broke, well that explains a lot.
Have you ever worked in software development?

And would you not find "we'll have a fix by the weekend... woops no, it's going to take another week" to be a *worse* communications strategy?

The bug might not even be as simple as you seem to think, since it depends what they changed to cause it - and what else this might interact with elsewhere.
And as well the hotfix may be to do *several* things, some of which you've not even noticed because they haven't affected your games so far. And even then it still needs to run through the system before it can be given the OK for release.
 
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Have you ever worked in software development?

And would you not find "we'll have a fix by the weekend... woops no, it's going to take another week" to be a *worse* communications strategy?

The bug might not even be as simple as you seem to think, since it depends what they changed to cause it - and what else this might interact with elsewhere.
And as well the hotfix may be to do *several* things, some of which you've not even noticed because they haven't affected your games so far. And even then it still needs to run through the system before it can be given the OK for release.
Yes, I have. No, I don't think it would be a worse communications strategy because it would show that Paradox cared about keeping their player base in the loop about when they would have their game functioning. Even if it had to be pushed back, while I may find it disappointing I'd find their honesty reassuring, and less frustrating than them being totally opaque on when I should expect to play the game.

I imagine this is to draw a comparison to the DD that was announced for possibly January and then delayed to mid Feb. No one in that instance was saying "I wish they didn't communicate with us at all", they were saying they wish Paradox's estimates were more accurate. Being completely silent up until mid-Feb about when a DD was coming would have been a worse option than getting the estimate wrong. That's a worst case scenario though. It really shouldn't be that difficult to fix this because as I said, it's not a hypothetical they had a fully functioning system in place literally days ago. I don't believe the changes they made to raiding are that complex or essential to side systems that they're going to create a ton of knock on bugs by fixing it. Even if it was possible, I find it unlikely those knock on bugs are capable of being as annoying as this one is.
 
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Yes, I have. No, I don't think it would be a worse communications strategy because it would show that Paradox cared about keeping their player base in the loop about when they would have their game functioning. Even if it had to be pushed back, while I may find it disappointing I'd find their honesty reassuring, and less frustrating than them being totally opaque on when I should expect to play the game.

I imagine this is to draw a comparison to the DD that was announced for possibly January and then delayed to mid Feb. No one in that instance was saying "I wish they didn't communicate with us at all", they were saying they wish Paradox's estimates were more accurate. Being completely silent up until mid-Feb about when a DD was coming would have been a worse option than getting the estimate wrong. That's a worst case scenario though. It really shouldn't be that difficult to fix this because as I said, it's not a hypothetical they had a fully functioning system in place literally days ago. I don't believe the changes they made to raiding are that complex or essential to side systems that they're going to create a ton of knock on bugs by fixing it. Even if it was possible, I find it unlikely those knock on bugs are capable of being as annoying as this one is.
I guess you missed the stink last time they missed a patch/release deadline and were accused of "lying" to their customer base.

And great. You don't believe they've done something complicated. Well done. I'm sure you're absolutely right, and that it can't be something complicated, or that touches on other code at all.
And if it *did* break something else to fix it, even if they're not as annoying to you as this one is, then people **really** start to complain about fixes breaking things that weren't broken before the hotfix. It doesn't have to be a ton either, just another highly visible bug that affects enough people.
 
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Plus, I don't see how
We are working on a Hotfix, and though we don't have any set date for it, we will push it as soon as we can.
Our team will keep you in the loop
is being totally opaque on the matter.

"We're working on it, we'll tell you when we know when it'll be ready" is *reasonably* open - and even has them saying they'll keep us in the loop when there's information.
 
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I guess you missed the stink last time they missed a patch/release deadline and were accused of "lying" to their customer base.

And great. You don't believe they've done something complicated. Well done. I'm sure you're absolutely right, and that it can't be something complicated, or that touches on other code at all.
And if it *did* break something else to fix it, even if they're not as annoying to you as this one is, then people **really** start to complain about fixes breaking things that weren't broken before the hotfix. It doesn't have to be a ton either, just another highly visible bug that affects enough people.
If we're talking about the same thing, I literally mentioned it in the post you're replying to.

The fact of the matter is neither of us is capable of knowing how complex the issue is without being on the team ourselves, but it's also not my job to make excuses for Paradox. I'm a customer who wants what they paid for to be functioning, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Yes, people would be annoyed if a patch introduced bugs - I'm glad you recognise this.

Saying you're going to keep us in the loop is not the same thing as actually keeping us in the loop. I've repeatedly said I'm thankful for their teams acknowledging the issue, but acknowledging the issue is not the same thing as fixing it or being transparent about when the game will be playable. It's been days since the bug was acknowledged and we know nothing more about when it will be fixed than we did since then.
 
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From the game files, it looks like this is:

Code:
    health = 8

Isn't this an insane amount of base health? More than any character could possibly naturally have? Let alone a 52 year old?

I get that Haesteinn is a fun meme, but does he really need to be the healthiest man to ever have lived in addition to having an absurdly huge army?
 
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If we're talking about the same thing, I literally mentioned it in the post you're replying to.
No, we're talking about very different things there.


The fact of the matter is neither of us is capable of knowing how complex the issue is without being on the team ourselves, but it's also not my job to make excuses for Paradox. I'm a customer who wants what they paid for to be functioning, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Sure. You're also the one claiming that it *can't* be complicated or impact on other systems.

It's also hardly a gamebreaking issue. It's inconvenient, it's costing a lot of gold, and it needs to be fixed. But it doesn't stop the game being a "functioning" one. Unlike (for example) the reported bugs where people are being ejected to observer mode on character death, the guy who lost the game when his dynastic heir inherited and he got a game over, unexpected CTD on particular dates and so on. Those are **far** higher priority - and possibly also intended for this hotfix if their solutions are quick and simple.


Yes, people would be annoyed if a patch introduced bugs - I'm glad you recognise this.
You have no idea how bad it gets around here when a bug fix breaks other things. It's had actual threats to developers come up before now.


Saying you're going to keep us in the loop is not the same thing as actually keeping us in the loop. I've repeatedly said I'm thankful for their teams acknowledging the issue, but acknowledging the issue is not the same thing as fixing it or being transparent about when the game will be playable. It's been days since the bug was acknowledged and we know nothing more about when it will be fixed than we did since then.
And it's been two working days - that's long enough to collate that there are problems and get a priority list, and *start* work on them.
Once they've chased down what's causing the "must fix" bugs and the "can fix in a few minutes" bugs, they can get those out of the way, and give an estimate. Transparency would require them to *have* that estimate, in the first place.
 
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No, we're talking about very different things there.



Sure. You're also the one claiming that it *can't* be complicated or impact on other systems.

It's also hardly a gamebreaking issue. It's inconvenient, it's costing a lot of gold, and it needs to be fixed. But it doesn't stop the game being a "functioning" one. Unlike (for example) the reported bugs where people are being ejected to observer mode on character death, the guy who lost the game when his dynastic heir inherited and he got a game over, unexpected CTD on particular dates and so on. Those are **far** higher priority - and possibly also intended for this hotfix if their solutions are quick and simple.



You have no idea how bad it gets around here when a bug fix breaks other things. It's had actual threats to developers come up before now.



And it's been two working days - that's long enough to collate that there are problems and get a priority list, and *start* work on them.
Once they've chased down what's causing the "must fix" bugs and the "can fix in a few minutes" bugs, they can get those out of the way, and give an estimate. Transparency would require them to *have* that estimate, in the first place.
Right, well I can only speak of what I've seen. It's unfortunate if they've had over the top reactions to these things in the past, but that doesn't change any of their base obligations as a business to their customers.

You have a very strange definition of functioning to me. The game certainly didn't feel very functionable to me when my family was being carted off with zero counterplay, or when I played as a vassal and had basically partially toggled god mode. So far it seems this is the bug the majority of the player base is effected and upset by, so I'd say that gives it plenty of priority. It's literally the most viewed and upvoted bug report on that subforum's front page right now, for what that's worth.

I never claimed it couldn't be complicated or have an impact on other systems, go read my post again. My giving an opinion (that I stand by as being reasonable) on the potential complexity of the bug is not the same as making an authoritative statement on the matter. If Paradox wants to set the record straight and talk about the complexity of the bug they're more than welcome to, but it's purely charitable thinking at this point to believe there's any evidence that this is more than a simple bug. If you really want to engage in this sort of speculation, why don't you explain some of the knock on effects you think fixing this is likely to have and why they're worse to deal with than this bug (assuming Paradox actually playtests and it's not just a straight CTD).

There is zero reason they need to trace down other bugs before being able to fix this one. This isn't a console game, they don't have to pay for each patch they release to be certified. Two working days is more than enough time for them to have checked it out and at least give an ETA on a hotfix imo. If you'd like to continue playing Paradox employee and tell me why that's an unreasonable expectation you're welcome to but it won't change my or the other thousands of players disappointed with Paradox's situation.

All of this discussion about how hard the bug is to fix is just ridiculous seeing as how easy to discover it is - it never should have made it into the game. Every second longer that it is is just further embarrassment for the company and that's not arguable.
 
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Oh and also it seems the big reddit thread discussing this bug has now been hidden from the front page/top posts of /r/crusaderkings so that no one new can see it. If Paradox had anything to do with that (seems like a reasonable assumption with the amount of thread locking/post deleting their mods do over here, including a similar thread about this bug yesterday) then could you guys maybe knock that off? I get that you don't want your shiny new DLC looking bad to all the new players coming in to try the game for free, but as previously mentioned silencing criticism of your product will only lead to an echo chamber and piss people off further. Especially if you're extending those tactics beyond your own forum to an ostensibly third party community for the game.

Maybe some reddit mod did it of their own accord, but your own history on this forum in the past weeks leads people to naturally expect otherwise.

Edit: Reddit mods said it was them for some asinine reason so turns out I am just a conspiracy theorist. Still, you should stop locking threads about it here outside duplicates in the bug reports. I get wanting a tidy forum or whatever but it's not a good look, maybe hire some PR guys or something.
 
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I hope everyone gives the devs a break, this is game of the decade easily.

DEVS-- Thank you so much for this game. I have put in hundreds of hours recently and have lost much sleep playing it. Some minor issues- The game is auto saving like crazy for me right now, I'm playing iron man from a week old save pre patch. I turned on save every 5 years in the menu but it saves much more frequently, I even tried turning auto save off to no avail. Any suggestions? What events trigger saves in game?

Also, should insularists not want to occupy Constantinople? Insularists do not get the holder bonus from the Hagia Sophia, I think that in reality they should. I have seen the cathedral first hand, most definitely a holy destination for any Christian or Muslim.

Also regarding demand conversion- It would be great to have a select all check box when demanding conversions. I spend half my time converting my vassals lol. But i play having 65 vassals all the time, I do not know if that is the wrong way to play instead of having just a few.

An easier way to grant vassals and titles would be amazing as well. Like have it follow some sort of micro orders- like dish them out to anglo insular small army close family etc prioritized and make them sort of even by always buffing the weakest of them up so they cant claim throne and wont have the man power for independence. I spend a huge amount of my time sorting out vassals and titles. Missing a lot of action and dialogue.

Another bug, sometimes its letting me click into declare war on other toons but the reason and target screen has no options it is just a blank screen that pops up.

- What traits prevent you from recruiting adults to your court from the dungeon? For instance, they have claims I want to press.
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Didn't see it in the patch notes but thanks for fixing the Scots melting pot so it doesn't consume all of Northumbria when it fires.
 

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It sounds like there is zero sense of urgency and you're treating this as just another minor bug, rather than the game breaking show stopper to the new product that you've sold that it is.
As @DreadLindwyrm showed above:
It's also hardly a gamebreaking issue. It's inconvenient, it's costing a lot of gold, and it needs to be fixed. But it doesn't stop the game being a "functioning" one. Unlike (for example) the reported bugs where people are being ejected to observer mode on character death, the guy who lost the game when his dynastic heir inherited and he got a game over, unexpected CTD on particular dates and so on. Those are **far** higher priority - and possibly also intended for this hotfix if their solutions are quick and simple
This is a relatively minor bug compared to various versions of game-over or CTD. Thus it is unclear how one characterize it as a "critical issue":
Yeah, I do. Critical issues aren't handled lackadaisically and with zero communication.
And, of course, they will fix multiple bugs in one go and playtest it before, because any fix anywhere can break something somewhere else and must be tested (in case of code/script division - especially if it's on coding side, as this one is likely to be, otherwise some smart person would have been running around here by now with "here, this is literally what must be changed" - like with some other bugs). Having them naming an arbitrary (and by the time of announcement it could not help being arbitrary) date of release of hotfix would be worse for everyone.
 
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This is a relatively minor bug compared to various versions of game-over or CTD. Thus it is unclear how one characterize it as a "critical issue"
From the PR perspective? Breaking raiding in the very flavor pack/patch combo that has (near laser) focus on Vikings and their raiding culture and then releasing it in that manner even though the bug becomes apparent within minutes of starting the game anywhere near anything that raids (including non-Norse raiders) ain't exactly a good look.
 
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From the PR perspective? Breaking raiding in the very flavor pack/patch combo that has (near laser) focus on Vikings and their raiding culture and then releasing it in that manner even though the bug becomes apparent within minutes of starting the game anywhere near anything that raids (including non-Norse raiders) ain't exactly a good look.
Given how back in CK2 it was quite unlikely to ever catch up with raiders at least in some versions, unless you frequent forums it would take quite some time to understand this is a bug not a feature.
 
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As @DreadLindwyrm showed above:

This is a relatively minor bug compared to various versions of game-over or CTD. Thus it is unclear how one characterize it as a "critical issue":

And, of course, they will fix multiple bugs in one go and playtest it before, because any fix anywhere can break something somewhere else and must be tested (in case of code/script division - especially if it's on coding side, as this one is likely to be, otherwise some smart person would have been running around here by now with "here, this is literally what must be changed" - like with some other bugs). Having them naming an arbitrary (and by the time of announcement it could not help being arbitrary) date of release of hotfix would be worse for everyone.

When someone's drowning it doesn't help to describe the water. In other words, their process and way of handling this is what people have a problem with. Replying with a description of how they're handling it doesn't absolve the problem.

Anyway, looks like they opened a beta branch to fix the issue. Good solution.
 
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In other words, their process and way of handling this is what people have a problem with. Replying with a description of how they're handling it doesn't absolve the problem.
If you have a problem with not having immediate hotfixes for each bug as soon as it is revealed (potentially - likely - breaking something else) that sounds very much not Pdx problem because, again as stated above, they know that having them is going to create worse backlash.
 
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When someone's drowning it doesn't help to describe the water. In other words, their process and way of handling this is what people have a problem with. Replying with a description of how they're handling it doesn't absolve the problem.

Anyway, looks like they opened a beta branch to fix the issue. Good solution.
To take your analogy further, they should be rescuing the person who is *actually* drowning before the person who is just having difficulty.

It also does no good to rush in to save someone without collecting the necessary rescue equipment. Or indeed taking a moment to look at the water and see whether the person is drowning because they don't know how to swim, or because their leg is trapped beneath the water, and the tide is rising.
 
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While I understand this change for the sake of balance to the game. this makes it difficult to have just an army of your good troops. Can we get this as a game rule instead or buttons that allow us to raise only certain types of troops? ie a "Raise All Mercenaries", "Raise All Men at Arms", and "Raise Holy Order"? As it stands now if I want to fight with only my quality troops I have to painstakingly separate out each individual troop and knight from the levies into a new army and it makes going to war a terrible drag on the gameplay.
 
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