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CK3 Dev Diary #78: Taking Language to Court

Hello there, and welcome to the 78th CK3 Dev Diary!

I am Mrop, one of the User Experience Designers on CK3. Last dev diary, we had a look at languages your Character can learn on their own. Today, we are having a look at how language relates to your Royal Court: Your Court Language.

Court Language in History​

Historically, it was not always so that nobles spoke the same language as the commoners. Rather, it was seen as more prestigious to speak another country’s language to show that you were cultivated enough to suck up to your superiors.

One of the most well known examples of this is how French was spoken across many courts across Europe around the reign of Louis XIV. This is outside the timeframe of Crusader Kings, but there are earlier examples; Norman nobles who invaded England together with William the Conqueror continued to speak French, influencing the development of the English language as we know it today.

Court Language and Grandeur​

Each Ruler with a Royal Court has a language chosen as their Court Language. At the start of the game this is determined by what historically was used. If you get a Royal Court later, its Court Language will simply be your native language. You can, of course, choose to change it!

Each language you can pick as your Court Language changes the Court Grandeur Baseline. You may recall that Grandeur and this Baseline was explained in Dev Diary 61. As a refresher, your Court Grandeur measures how impressive your Royal Court is. Each month, it moves slowly towards the Baseline value. Changing your Court Language will therefore take time to actually have an effect on your court’s Grandeur.


The button to change your Court Language is located in your Royal Court


So how much Grandeur can you get from a certain Court Language?

The largest share of Court Grandeur comes from the pecking order of all Royal Courts who speak that language.

The Royal Court with the highest Court Grandeur is considered the “leader” of that language, and gains Court Grandeur based on how many Royal Courts speak that language. So if you are the leader of a language, you want as many Courts as possible to adopt it! Naturally, you only gain this Grandeur if you can actually speak the language!

On the other hand, if you are not the grandest Court of the language, you gain Court Grandeur based on the difference of your Grandeur, and the Grandeur of the leading Court. Speaking the Language is not required for this bonus, so even if your neighbors have a language you cannot speak you can attempt to impress them by following their lead.

In addition to this pecking order, you also gain Grandeur for each County in your Realm that speaks your Court Language, but only if you know the language personally. Finally, if your Court Language is also your native Language, you gain an extra 25% bonus to all the impacts your Court Language has on your Court Grandeur.

Here is an example of a calculation for having your native Language as Court Language (actual values are very much temporary):

An example calculation of Court Grandeur gained from your Court Language


Since you gain extra Grandeur for matching your Court Language with your native Language, you may want to create a new Hybrid or Divergent Culture (as described in Dev Diary 65) to adapt to the language your Realm or Court prefers.

All in all, this means that weaker and less grand Royal Courts will tend to choose the Court Language of a local, more grand Royal Court. The AI is also more restricted than players, such as taking the Faith of the speakers of the Court Language into account.

Eventually, once your Royal Court becomes grand enough, it is usually time to choose a language of your own as the Court Language, and start attracting lesser Courts to adopt it.

Finding Court Language in the Game​

You can, as shown above, select your Court Language inside your Royal Court, which takes you to a special map mode of all Court Languages in the world.

A special Map Mode showing all Court Languages of the World


You can also directly adopt the language of a certain Culture by clicking on the button next to the language in that Cultures own View.

You can directly adopt a Language as a Court Language in the Culture View


Beware however, not everyone may speak your Court Language that well (including yourself), so the threat of embarrassment is ever present. Just like in real life.

An embarrassing situation occurs when one of your Vassals cannot speak your Court Language

Court Language Spread​


Seeing your Court Language spread is one major way to understand how influential your court becomes over the years.

To see Court Languages spread, let us have a look at the game! Here, each Royal Court that speaks the same Court Language is shown on the map.

Here is the map at game start in 867 AD. You can see languages such as Arabic being used in the Habbari Sultanate (roughly in modern day Pakistan), and how the king of Bulgaria has chosen Greek due to the influence of nearby Byzantium.

Court Languages Map in 867


100 years later, Magadhan is slowly becoming more popular in India, and the Kingdom of Italy have adopted French as their Court Language.

Court Languages Map in 967


In 1067, a century later, Greek is spreading to the newly formed Kingdoms in the Empire of Khazaria. Some new languages like Berber also pop up.

Court Languages Map in 1067


Finally, in 1167, we see four languages dominate the courts of the world. Greek has spread through the now shattered Empire of Khazaria, and is also making its way down to Africa. At the same time, there is still room for smaller Court Languages like Shaz Turkic to thrive.

Court Languages Map in 1167


That is all for now; thank you for reading!
 
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Will Court language influence cultural spread in your realm at all? For example, will having French as your court language help spread French culture in your realm?

Also, wouldn't Latin be the proper court language for much of Europe in the time period?
 
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Sounds interesting!

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Is this the first time we see this screen? I've never seen it. :D
Looks neat!
 
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This looks so cool and interesting. And I'm glad to see that Navarre has "Iberian" as Court Language, to represent well the Romance speaking elites of the Kingdom. Kudos for the detail!!

One question is, What about Latin? Although the division in languages shown in the maps can be correct for the Late Middle Ages for the Early Middle Ages Latin was definitely the official language for the Western European Catholic Courts and the one of the Catholic Church. Has Latin been deleted and substituted by the Languages Families or is still considered a Language, even if no Culture has it as its own language?
 
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I don't understand all that blank space in the maps. Not all languages will be available in-game?
 
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Will Court language influence cultural spread in your realm at all? For example, will having French as your court language help spread French culture in your realm?

Also, wouldn't Latin be the proper court language for much of Europe in the time period?

'tis a bit complicated. In this timeframe, you were considered literate if you could speak both French AND Latin, so they went hand-to-hand.
Personally, I'd rather see Latin be used as some sort of Catholic religious perk, which gives some bonuses to all Catholics that you usually get from sharing Court Languages.
 
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This sounds like an interesting system in theory, however based in this description, I would assume that having your own language as your court language will always be the best option as you keep expanding, and the grandeur bonus from counties speaking your own language will be an additional incentive to culture-convert everything instead of actually trying to maintain a diverse realm.

Also, I wonder how much grandeur base you can get once your realm becomes really large. Will we hit the cap just from the number of counties/courts speaking our language? I hope not.
 
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I don't understand all that blank space in the maps. Not all languages will be available in-game?
The map mode is for Court Languages, only a Royal Court will have one. The blank spaces are rulers who do not have a Royal Court.
 
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Looks like a really cool idea, a few question :

  • What If I adopt a strong language at my court, but nobody speaks it here ? People will just stop speaking to each other ? :D

  • Will having the same court language have an impact on diplomacy ? (Didn't work that well for England and France but you know)

  • Will the court language be easier to learn ? Do we get a bonus ?

  • Could it influence the AI to adpot the corresponding culture after a while?

  • Would having the same court language make two cultures closer over time ?

  • Bythonic is for Bretons and Welsh (and cornish)?

Keep up the good work !
 
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Am I crazy or is there no downside to just picking the biggest language? The byzantine emperor will invest thousands of gold to increase their grandeur and I’ll get some of that for free. I don’t even have to speak it.
 
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Just one question, no offense, but what is Iberian? I mean, I could see either Latin or Asturleonese/Castilian/Galician-Portuguese/Basque/Navarran-Aragonese/Catalan as options, but "Iberian" just wasn't a thing.
 
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This is really cool. Some questions.

1.) why is Iranian not called Persian?
2.) Why those languages chosen for the Indian Empires. Kannada I get because the Rashatrukas supported them. But why was Magdhan and Sauraseni chosen? My understanding is that Sanskrit was still a prestige language in all three realms.
3.) Is it possible for there to be a liturgical language similar to a court language? So that say Catholic priests know Latin, or Buddhist monks study pali, and the Jewish faiths have hebrew?
4.) I presume you must be in diplomatic range of the court whose language you wish to adopt?
5.) For Chinese, which Chinese is it? as Chinese while being written the same, can be spoken very differently, ie Cantonese and Mandarin being the two big ones.
 
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Will Court language influence cultural spread in your realm at all? For example, will having French as your court language help spread French culture in your realm?

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yes dont bypass latin please...
 
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