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CK3 Dev Diary #13 - The Learning Lifestyle

Oh, it’s Tuesday already! Time to take off my Developer Hat and put on my Developer Who Talks About the Game Hat.

I hope all these dev diaries have been showing off my erudition, deep knowledge and, uh, healthy living? Because it’s time for the Learning Lifestyle!

Seeking out information, acquiring knowledge, and reading everything you can get your hands on should resonate with a lot of you, seeing as that’s more or less what you’re doing right now. You might even have a theological bent and be praying for a release date announcement!
But your prayers will go unanswered for some time yet.

Here are the focuses that the Learning Lifestyle allows for:
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[Medicine Focus - Learning: +1, Health: Small Boost]
[Scholarship Focus - Learning: +3]
[Theology Focus - Learning: +1, Piety: +1/month]


Medicine is the focus for those of you who want to shield yourself and your court from the vagaries of Medieval life. Life is short enough as it stands, and far more so if smallpox decides to take up residence in your castle, or if you’re of the easily-stressed persuasion for that matter.

Scholarship is a good one for those who love to seek knowledge and understand the weirdness and wonder out there. It’s effects are about knowing how to improve your own abilities, and how to improve the realm.

Theology is about the great questions. Who are, and what is the divine? Why does the divine want me specifically to rule the entire world? Its perks offer numerous bonuses to your interactions with your faith and the clergy.

The perk trees themselves match these themes fairly well, but provide you with more detailed options.

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Theologian

I would like us to dive in head first into the realm of theology. Some of the perks here are the straightforward fare you might expect, making others of your faith like you more for being such a staunch practicioner:

Editors note: I started out strong by getting the screenshots wrong, didn't I. Faithful is now corrected, whereas for Church and State, the value in the comment is the currently correct one, not the one in the screenshot. Oh well! (And yes, I am also the editor. Sue me.)

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[Faithful - Clergy Opinion: +10]

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[Church and State - Realm Priest opinion: +30]

From the Council dev diary, you might remember the Realm Priest, who is appointed to give their approval or disapproval to the way you behave. You know, just so the gods can be absolutely certain that you deserve those sweet, sweet church taxes.

It is clear that this is a very powerful perk, but I can already hear you all shout out for answers: “Will this be useless if my religion doesn’t use Realm Priests???”

Fear not, there is a variant of the perk for all those out there who prefer that approach:
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[Church and State - Monthly Piety from Buildings: +100%]

Of course, whether your Realm Priest/Court Chaplain likes you or not is irrelevant to the fact that you can improve the way they build your religious relations by being equally good at all this god-stuff as they are:
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[Clerical Justifications - Religious Relations efficiency: +20%]

Religious Relations is a Council Task, so check the Council DD for that one!

Once you’re considered pious and a brilliant, shining example of an adherent of your faith… wouldn’t you want even more acknowledgement?

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[Radiant - Level of Devotion impact: +100%]

Now, Level of Devotion reflects how good of a believer others think you are. As with other similar values, it is increased by gaining Piety, but your “Devotion Experience” does not fall when you spend Piety, so it’s an ever-growing measure of your life’s accomplishments. Well, ever-growing as long as you do nothing to upset the church, important members of the clergy, or your god(s). At least while anyone’s watching.

Theology isn’t just about your own faith, however. It’s also about how much better it is than every other faith. If you’re going to be doing a lot of conversion, give the Theologian tree a look:

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[Zealous Proselytizer - Convert Faith in County progress speed: +25%]

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[Religious Icon - Convert Faith in County: The Fervor modifier never goes below 0]

Since the Fervor modifier can be so powerful, it can be an immense benefit to prevent it from ever being negative.

Now, it’s really good that we have definitely told you everything about how religions and fervor and all those things work in CK3, otherwise I’d be telling you guys way too much right now.

Especially with perks such as this:
[Prophet - :p:p:p]
NOTE: Ooops, turns out I finally reached the end of the line, here. There’s some things I can’t say as much as I want about, apparently. I can’t wait for you guys to get your hands on the religion DD...

Now, back to the perk tree! Towards the end you can get skilled enough to make some very convincing arguments for why imprisoning your vassals and revoking all their titles is exactly what your god(s) would want you to do!

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[Defender of the Faith - Tyranny Gain: -25%, Same Faith Opinion: +5]

Interestingly enough, this perk changes depending on how tolerant your faith is of others. There’s multiple variations, but here’s one:

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[Defender of the Faith - Diplomacy per Level of Devotion: +1, Monthly Piety: +20%]

At the very end, you’ll get the Theologian trait, which will help provide all the Learning and Piety you could ever wish for. As befits someone who is in such close communion with the divine.


Whole of Body

So, maybe an eternal afterlife isn’t your thing? Maybe you’re more of an eternal current-life kind of person? Then the Whole of Body tree is for you! (Note that it does not confer actual immortality. That would just be a silly thing to have in a game like this, wouldn’t it?)

First, happy news is that a familiar face is going to make a return in CK3: the Court Physician! (Pretend that was a completely new, surprising detail that you never could have guessed.) They work a lot like in CK2, but you can now do something to actually improve them:
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[Anatomical Studies - Court Physician costs less to hire, Court Physician treatments have better outcomes]

Of course, who needs a Court Physician, isn’t it better to just avoid getting sick in the first place?

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[Wash Your Hands - Reduced chance of contracting Illnesses, Reduced chance for Courtiers to contract Illnesses]

Never mind the confused looks as you’re constantly cleaning your hands, and never mind the fact that your pox-ridden ancestors are turning in their graves at your foolishness. It’ll actually help. At least it... might?

There’s a couple other perks that improve your endurance as well.
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[Iron Constitution - Disease Resistance (Fertility): +30%, Disease Resistance (Health): Massive Boost]

Disease Resistance refers to values that are only applied as offsets from disease modifiers. So they won’t have any impact until you get sick, but once you do get sick, it won’t keep you from running around and leaving children everywhere you go. And illnesses won’t drag you into the grave so fast, either.

Lastly, if you want to improve your survivability even when you’re healthy, just be Healthy!

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[Healthy - Health: Significant Boost]

Sometimes the simplest solution is the best.

Health is not only about the body, however, but also about the mind. I know you guys are really excited to hear more about the details of the Stress system, so... we’re going to leave you wanting for a few more weeks!

But there are perks that affect that as well:
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[Carefree - Stress Gain: -25%]

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[Mental Resilience - Time between Mental Breaks: +3 years]
“Agh, not knowing what it means is going to give me a mental break!!”

Then, there are two very cool perks, that both come in handy in a more active fashion. The first is:
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[Restraint - You can take the Embrace Celibacy and Abandon Celibacy Decisions]

Just imagine! Once your children are starting to amass, you might want to start limiting the pool of competing claimants in the inevitable inheritance dispute, and if a few of your Strong, Genius heirs accidentally get thrown off a roof, you can get started on some new ones again!

And finally:
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[Know Thyself - When Death of natural causes is 1 year away, you will receive a warning]

Yup, you read that correctly. It is actually possible to feel it when your time is approaching. I want to emphasise the “natural causes”, though. Disease and cold steel might still take you by surprise, but if you can survive those, then you can be well-prepared by the time you kick the bucket, precisely to avoid the worst of those aforementioned inheritance disputes.

The perk from this tree, Whole of Body, is unusual in that it does not affect your skills at all. Instead, it improves your fertility, your health, and reduces stress gain. Let’s just say that someone who finishes the tree will have a hard time getting killed by anything. (Except for murders and executions. Murders and executions are still pretty deadly.)


Scholar

At long last, the most sophisticated of the perk trees. The one about knowledge and answers, and wisdom for the sake of wisdom. Come with me on this journey into the unknown, where I will reveal to you… more perks?!?

In the Middle Ages, scholarship was undeniably tied to theology, and that means that being a good believer can aid you in being a good learner.

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[Scholarly Circles - Learning per Level of Devotion: +2]

True wisdom is shown in who you surround yourself with, though. So you should surround yourself with servants who are smarter than you are:
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[Learn on the Job - 20% of Councillors’ primary Skill is added to your own]

It’s not only your own skills which can benefit from your focus, either:
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[Pedagogy - Your wards can get additional Skills, and can become your Friends]

Just imagine taking your neighbor’s child hostage educating your neighbour’s child, and ending up friends instead of enemies!

There are perks that help you more efficiently develop your realm:
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[Planned Cultivation - Increase Development in County efficiency: 20%]

And there are other ways the tree helps you improve as well:
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[Scientific - Cultural Fascination progress: +100%]

You’re going to have to wait a while before you get to hear about any of what that modifier means, though. Sorry!

Other perks are good for making friends outside of your own circles:
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[Open-minded - Ignore Negative Culture Opinion]

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[Apostate - Different Faith Opinion: +10, Faith Conversion Cost: -75%]

Wow, those are some cheap conversions, for when your studious research helps you discover a faith you like better than your own!

Once you’re an insufferable know-it-all, you can even talk your way into making religious authorities grant you claims in exchange for your hard-earned Piety.

Scholar - Sanctioned Loopholes.JPG

[Sanctioned Loopholes - You can use the Buy Claim interaction]

It doesn’t come cheap, but with this much Piety (and your well-formulated arguments), it doesn’t matter what the Pope says.

Lastly we have the Scholar trait, which grants a solid boost to Learning, small boosts to Hostile and Personal Scheme power, as well as a modifier to Development Growth in your Counties.

Knowing stuff comes in handy in a wide variety of ways.



That’s it for today! Knowledge, religion and long lives-

Exactly how long, you ask? *sigh*


Modding: Fine, let’s talk about immortality

What follows here is about modding, and is not used by the vanilla game!

Today I’ve been talking a lot about long lives, but not about eternal lives. Some people really enjoy seeing what their cruel tyrant-queen might get up to age after immortal age, or total conversion mods where magical creatures literally live forever. Well, we haven’t left you out in the cold. We’ve added a simple means for mods to make traits grant immortality, by simply toggling a parameter.

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Immortality will come out of the box with convenient functionality such as value triggers for "effective age" and "real age", and ways of setting those.

To be clear, this will not be active for any traits in the vanilla game, but it makes it easy for mods to add it, should they want to.

Don’t say we never did anything for you!

Especially not when I return next week with the Diplomacy Lifestyle, and some more tidbits about various related things. We’re almost through our massive Lifestyle rundown, and the next DD will bring some of the most impactful perks seen thus far.

Until then!


PS:
A lot of people ask what life as a game developer is. It’s pretty much constant hard work, as you try to fit together an impossibly complicated piece of art on an impossibly tight deadline. But occasionally the game hiccups in fun ways that you’re lucky to get to see. When the character animations started reacting oddly the other day, Peter, one of our UX Designers, saw one of the most important relationships in his life reflected in his in-game marriage:
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Rest well, everyone!
 

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Out of curiosity: how does Know Thyself work? I imagine that the one year deadline is not set in stone (so it may be 1 year and 3 days, or 360 days etc), and that the perk takes the death daily chance formula, calculates the date in which the chance gets to >90%, and then subtracts a year to determine the date the warning should be given. Did I get close?

And huh this DD did convince me to finally take the Learning education, but... What does Learning do in CK3 again? Tech speed boost?
 
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@Voffvoffhunden I hope that this game wont have some of the ahistoric events related to scholarship that ck2 had.

It was always weird to me that 8 generations of scholars could discover the heliocentric model, crafting guns, etc, tell everyone all from 769.
 

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I'm hoping that "know thyself" is little bit more vague in the final version. I'm okay if you know that "the end is nigh", but I'd like it to still be a little bit unpredictable. Not "you will be dead exactly one year from today".
 
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some perk have different effect for different character are pretty good to see
hope there are enough variant for every tree
and many perk still looks like they have very narrow application
maybe give them a little passive bonus too?
 

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Out of curiosity: how does Know Thyself work? I imagine that the one year deadline is not set in stone (so it may be 1 year and 3 days, or 360 days etc), and that the perk takes the death daily chance formula, calculates the date in which the chance gets to >90%, and then subtracts a year to determine the date the warning should be given.

Not a developer myself, but here is how I would do it:

Whenever a "normal" character would die from old age, a character with the know thyself-trait will get a 1-year-extension instead. Using this workaround would save a lot of complicated programming and unnecessary calculations.

What does it even mean? Is death of natural cause set in stone now and it will persist even if we gain some sort of trait that would grant bonus health?

I don't think so. That way, any attempts to prolong life would be futile. My abovementioned guess seems to be the easiest (and therefore most likely) option from a developers perspective.
 
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Not a developer myself, but here is how I would do it:

Whenever a "normal" character would die from old age, a character with the know thyself-trait will get a 1-year-extension instead. Using this workaround would save a lot of complicated programming and unnecessary calculations.

...duh. The path of least resistance. This is why I'm not a programmer I guess lol.
 

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Immortality will come out of the box with convenient functionality such as value triggers for "effective age" and "real age", and ways of setting those.
That's cool, I always wanted the immortality bloodline in ck2 to simply mean you age slower.
 

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Know Thyself feels a bit too supernatural to fit in with the rest of the game.

I feel that it would make more sense of a health specialty to give you the power to treat illness rather than magically have stronger resistance to it. In particular, you should be able to treat others as well.
You're not getting downvoted because you're wrong. Rather it's because 44 players don't want to lose this information during their gameplay.

We want to see the messiah!


Is it though? Or is it just an abstraction of people who actually know themselves well enough to be aware that death is near? The 1 year thing is arbitrary, sure, but I don't think it's supernatural. Exaggerated, sure, but I don't find it shocking that a character who's good in medicine would know better the state of their own body.

Yeah. That would mean with the knowledge about medicine we have today, that nearly everyone in the world could predict the approximate time of their death without a doctor's diagnosis. This is also counterintuitive because it's the routinely unhealthy who are better at detecting fatal symptoms over those who barely know the difference between heartburn and a heart attack because they've never had either. I say this from years in emergency medicine.

So OP has point. This is a weird, Skryim-ish magic perk - okay, if we got it we go it; it's not like it's going to be game breaking. But I think they could have thought of something more sensible.
 
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A bit underwhelmed by the medicine focus. It's completely worthless if you manage to get yourself killed via assasination, battle or event. And if it isn't it might screw up your succesion by letting you outlive your firstborn son or at the very least give your successor a very short reign.

Now if it would give a health bonus to your spouse and wards a s well, or possibly giving them some stat boost due to their healthy life I would consider it but as it is it seems a lot weaker then other perk trees.
 

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A bit underwhelmed by the medicine focus. It's completely worthless if you manage to get yourself killed via assasination, battle or event. And if it isn't it might screw up your succesion by letting you outlive your firstborn son or at the very least give your successor a very short reign.

Now if it would give a health bonus to your spouse and wards a s well, or possibly giving them some stat boost due to their healthy life I would consider it but as it is it seems a lot weaker then other perk trees.
It do more than just increase Life expectancy such as making your character resist stress better and protect other characters from disease. It seems most useful when your character is very good to start with and you want to maximize their rule since the whole of body perks don't actually make your character better so you need a strong base for it to be really good.

What does Learning do in CK3 again? Tech speed boost?
Used for atleast one plot.
A Scheme called “Claim Throne” can obviously only ever be risky, but you can employ it against your Liege to get a claim on the realm. It’s a lot easier to get put into power by a Claimant Faction than by generations of unpredictable inheritance, after all.

The Scheme itself is a Hostile Scheme that relies on Learning and Intrigue, and uses agents. The most powerful agents will be your Liege’s Council Members. You’re going to need a lot of powerful support to convincingly stake your claim, after all. Even though you are obviously the rightful ruler.
 

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So many more must picks on all trees. All three of these are evocative.

Quick question: Will it be possible to mod these trees with conditional effects "If you pick x, you cannot also pick y"?