CK3 - Dev Diary #0 - The Vision

[lazprune]

Well, fulfilling players' fantasies yes, but only if they're feudal it seems...

 

[kalauer]

To be clear, CK3 is a vastly bigger game than CK2 was on release.

Can you elaborate how CK3 on release will compare to CK2 now? Like some quantitative estimates, if you feel like it maybe broken down to some sub-categories? Because honestly, I feel this statement alone does not carry much information one wouldn't expect anyhow.

Theat being asked: I'm thrilled.

 

[HUNDmiau]

I'll be blunt: As long as the french monarchy, the holy roman empire, the polish crown and the byzantine empire play different, since their feudalisms all were vastly different, Im happy.

 

[Pied-Noir]

I'll be blunt: As long as the french monarchy, the holy roman empire, the polish crown and the byzantine empire play different, since their feudalisms all were vastly different, Im happy.

Poland cannot into unique feudal mechanics.

 

[Aspi]

I'd just like to quickly say that there is a 95% chance the UI isn't final. The UI is usually one of the last things they get done with in games, due its relative low priority.

 

[LordofLight]

Since CK3 is going to be using the updated engine... is it going to be using the same awful launcher that imperator has? The one that ignores my documents folder on my other hard drive, that literally every single application I ever used has no issue with (including every paradox game), and instead creates a new one for no good reason? Then is incapable of using it?

And to fix it you have to edit a file in notepad to point to the path of your actual documents folder.

Something still not fixed in Imperator. Which makes me wonder if this is just an issue with the new launcher that they can't fix or something. And it make me think this will be an issue in CK3 as well.

 

[Cardolam]

I'd just like to quickly say that there is a 95% chance the UI isn't final. The UI is usually one of the last things they get done with in games, due its relative low priority.

Humm? Relative low priority? How about the games' previews and the eye candy necessary to sell the game? How can it not be developed concurrently with the rest of the game? Its not that the coders are going to be the ones that will do the 2D art... there are different teams that work concurrently.

Anyway, I *do* agree the UI feels (very) unfinished.

 

[IanReSc]

Take my money and sign me up!

There are not many developers that I trust this much. Bioware used to be on the list, but these days it is mostly Paradox. Crusader Kings 3, Empire of Sin, just let me preorder already.

 

[Pied-Noir]

Well, fulfilling players' fantasies yes, but only if they're feudal it seems...

The title of the game is the clue you were looking for.

 

[LordofLight]

That's true, but one appeal of CK is the medieval simulation COMBINED with the RPG aspects. One way to improve even more on the RPG aspects is to build up government types and their interaction with the characters and the world.

I adore the focus on characters, but it makes me wonder if they scaled back government stuff. Which is integral to the RPG aspects of the game in my opinion.

 

[Colesy_]

I'm gonna be honest and say I really feel like not including certain features from CK2 is a huge mistake. You claim the game is going to feel like and evolution of CK, but that's hard to imagine when you are admitting to not carrying over everything from the last game. I can understand getting rid of the useless or unused features but I'm sure most of us have plenty of hours on CK2 and I'm sure that we'll be missing something vital immediately upon playing CK3. I love Paradox games but I really, really do not want to keep paying for DLC after DLC, especially when they consist of features that may have already been in a previous entry.

 

[General Von Trapp]

When I heard the news I was like....really.

I was not expecting Crusader Kings to be announced, I was thinking wait longer until the technology improves to make a big impact on probably your biggest series.

It just sounded like a decision from the top... make the next iteration of our most successful game so we can rake in the cash.

I am comforted with the statement that this is an “evolution” and not the revolution of the Crusader Kings brand. I’ve seen the vids from ParadoxCon talking about the messy code and this also leads well from the “evolution” statement.

Feels like a stepping stone to Crusader Kings 4 in which the Crusader Kings 3 codebase could be expanded from.

Not blown away by the models in the screenshots as of yet but my hype is definitely in check and not expecting someone truly groundbreaking in the next version.

 

[Gabriel G.N]

I really agree with the new casus belli mechanics, a progress bar that grows and at the final you have the chance to have the claim or not. Now we don't have to wait forever to know.

 

[elvain]

I'm gonna be honest and say I really feel like not including certain features from CK2 is a huge mistake. You claim the game is going to feel like and evolution of CK, but that's hard to imagine when you are admitting to not carrying over everything from the last game. I can understand getting rid of the useless or unused features but I'm sure most of us have plenty of hours on CK2 and I'm sure that we'll be missing something vital immediately upon playing CK3. I love Paradox games but I really, really do not want to keep paying for DLC after DLC, especially when they consist of features that may have already been in a previous entry.

if something doesn't really work (as intended) and blocks or vastly complicates further development of gameplay around it, is it really a mistake to remove it (and hopefully replace it later with something working?
I mean, look at Decadence. People have been complaining about how it malfunctioned since ever. Should it be kept in, just to be kept in, and thus disable making Muslim gameplay interesting?

 

[fourworlds]

I'd just like to quickly say that there is a 95% chance the UI isn't final. The UI is usually one of the last things they get done with in games, due its relative low priority.

To add on to this, there's a video interview another forum member posted that has the devs saying that the UI will be fully modable, so I think that's a good sign as well that if a lot of people aren't happy with it, they will be able to make changes to it. More modablity is always a good thing! Though hopefully the base UI will be good as well of course because a good base UI is much better than a bad one. It's just nice that there will be flexibility.

 

[Stadhouder]

if you play CK2 primarily for, say, the nomads or the merchant republics (the only faction types that were playable in CK2 but not in CK3), you might be disappointed.

I'm disapointed. The Merchant Republics are my favorites.

 

[Dr. Plebeian]

I definitely did not see this coming but I’m very satisfied with this surprise

 

[Lerronin]

Probably my only concern is that I read more accessible, think about hoi4 and can't help but be skeptical as to what that really means for the game.

 

[Mounir Al-Fateh]

CK3 can be more realistic in terms of graphics, 3D and the ability to enter the heart of the map, cities and towns like Rome 2.

 

[Metz77]

Probably my only concern is that I read more accessible, think about hoi4 and can't help but be skeptical as to what that really means for the game.

They've been pretty clear what they mean by more accessible — CK2 is incredibly opaque, and CK3 is going to include more indications of what sort of things are important to pay attention to.