CK2 Dev Diary #46: Surveying the Survey

[Dagda]

Hopefully we won't see anymore sunset invasions. Still never understood why you guys made it, no one even asked for it.

 

[The Killer Tofu]

Interesting! Will we ever see data showing most played starting characters/states? Or perhaps most and least created formable titles? (Roman Empire or the Kingdom of Ireland for example)

 

[Sofyan Rghiwi]

I hope the Devs would take the results of this survey into consideration when deciding the scope of the few expansions left for the game.

 

[Cymsdale]

I hope you aren't seeing these results as a request for more start dates...

 

[Karl244]

Interesting!

 

[DominusNovus]

Hopefully we won't see anymore sunset invasions. Still never understood why you guys made it, no one even asked for it.

Well, I for one am satisfied that the DLC that must not be named scored so poorly.

 

[Norse Imperator]

Hopefully we won't see anymore sunset invasions. Still never understood why you guys made it, no one even asked for it.

They could just troll us even further by giving us another Sunset Invasion, but instead of the Aztecs invading Europe, the Chinese will invade India. How about that?

 

[Fintilgin]

Hopefully we won't see anymore sunset invasions. Still never understood why you guys made it, no one even asked for it.

I hope we DO, because it was a fun, cool little optional DLC. Paradox should do more fun, little side things like Sunset Invasion.

 

[Atlantians]

They could just troll us even further by giving us another Sunset Invasion, but instead of the Aztecs invading Europe, the Chinese will invade India. How about that?

They can call it: Sunrise Invasion.

 

[Asiak]

Hopefully we won't see anymore sunset invasions. Still never understood why you guys made it, no one even asked for it.

Because us asking for it simply isn't a prerequisite for them making it? Because they knew some portion of the player base would find it fun?

What I wanna see is the Aztecs get more diverse and sail into the mediterranean. This is not my idea it comes from a certain bearded CK2 streamer (https://www.twitch.tv/cringer63) I watch.

Especially now with rules why not give the Aztec's the ability to sail into the mediterranean and attack anyone there? I know part of their purpose was to provide a cool eastern horde but really enabling them to also attack the more central realms would just spice things up, add to the emergent story possibilities.

 

[turnad]

The amount of people butthurt over sunset is amazing, it's almost NIMBY in tone.

 

[Ashlantean]

I'm a little surprised The Republic was not one of the three least-used DLCs. Republics are fun, but I reckoned the paucity of starts compared to say, the Sword of Islam, would have seen it drop. Maybe we're all still hunting those elusive 80 trade posts?

I hope you aren't seeing these results as a request for more start dates...

I wouldn't want to see the timeline going back any further, but filling in some of the gaps between the earlier start dates? Count me in! Would love the histories between 869 and 1066 to be populated so we could do battle with folk like Cnut the Great, ruler of Denmark, England and Norway.

 

[Daffius]

Interesting, thanks.

Can you share what outcomes or rather consequences these have? Is there a lessons learnt that you'd implement on the back of this for further DLCs or CK3?

I'm not asking specifics obviously, but more things like; 'less/more story based elements and focus', 'less/more non-historic content', etc. Just curious what you made of the results.

 

[Abnwtwtud]

I do like it when my biases are confirmed by statistical data. Makes me feel warm inside.

 

[Searry]

I remember the furore over Sunset Invasion. It must have been the most poorest DLC ever put out by Paradox. Even Together For Victory pales in comparison.

 

[WotanAnubis]

Hopefully we won't see anymore sunset invasions. Still never understood why you guys made it, no one even asked for it.

I think I get the mechanical purpose, at least.

At some point, the Mongols will show up and throw the entire Eastern portion of the map into chaos, forcing everybody to adapt to this new circumstance. By contrast, the West can just sort of keep doing its thing (unless the Mongols do really well), and remains kind of static.

The Sunset Invasion, then, is simply there to cause havoc in the West and shake up the late game like the Mongols do in the East.

Also, it's funny.

 

[Caspoi]

I was somewhat suprised that pilgrimages were at the top of Sons of Abraham and the restoration of the Kingdom of Israel at the bottom considering how the pilgrimages often feel like an irrelevant side part of the game (though a nice event chain) while Israel allows one to play the jews similarly to the Zoroastrians in one's goals.

 

[RandomTag]

Pagan is the most favorite feature of Crusader Kings 2. Oh the irony

 

[romothecus]

Hopefully we won't see anymore sunset invasions. Still never understood why you guys made it, no one even asked for it.

They made it because the concept is extremely straightforward (Aztecs invade Europe) and requires only a couple events and a few pieces of art. As far as DLCs go, SI probably required the least investment to create. Aztec religion is functionally identical to most other pagan religions except with pseudo-Norse events.

Compare any DLC that implements new game rules or a new UI - whether that's college of cardinals, life focus screen, retinues, etc. SI could have been created entirely by a modder.