CK2 Dev Diary #33: Let's Talk About Sects

[ChrisFox]

There will be only one or two expansions after this one so major extras like you want are unlikely and there is plenty of things currently ingame that could use the focus.

As for CK3 I imagine it is half a decade away at the farthest.

Why is it that asking the developers if a feature is planned gathers such ridicule. I am really only asking because there was an announcement at some point previous that they stated they were going to 'fill in the empty spots' and implied that they were adding more playable areas. Those two DLC could be playable Republics and Theocracies, we don't know. Once again, I am not demanding they do it, I am asking if its planned. I am asking the developers if they plan on adding a feature to their game.

 

[RicVolvo]

Since this is a religion like dlc, you could add pilgrimage to every reformed pagan religions and others too.

 

[Wagonlitz]

The basic loop goes like this; you put out word that you’d like to join a specific Society.

So what prevents you from joining a secret one and then exposing all members? Also how would you not get in trouble when you make public you want to join a secret society?

 

[Xinkc]

Paradox is worryingly delving into heretical territory. This heresy is looking like it needs some purging.

So what prevents you from joining a secret one and then exposing all members? Also how would you not get in trouble when you make public you want to join a secret society?

More importantly, can we infiltrate the sects to purge the heresy?

 

[Mike Louis]

@Doomdark, I'm wondering is it possible to include the Freemasons and have event chains associated with them? Also is it possible to have a mystic philosopher found a secret society resembling the Illuminati? As a bonus, if the founder is from the de jure area of k_bavaria, his or her dynasty name could be Weishaupt.

As a final question, is there plans to have unreformed pagans invite a missionary to their realms via event chains similar to what happened in history?

 

[Maphibo]

Will we be able to build monasteries in holdings, related to specific monastic orders?

 

[Kuro1211]

So, will it be possible to reform this cult into a "proper" religion?

 

[Fabl3d]

so if there was ever a secret bears dlc, this has to be it right?

 

[Liquidbones]

So, since it seems some form of devil worship is going to be included, and since the game is no longer completely historical (immortality and sunset invasion anyone?) is it going to be possible to have a demonic incursion as a new event? Perhaps a powerful demon worshiping society could spawn a hellish army, or perhaps it could appear like the Aztecs and Mongols do, but from the north or south. And, though I know it's not likely, I would love it if Monks and Mystics finally gave us the ability to create our own religion/heresy.

 

[Rags17]

So, since it seems some form of devil worship is going to be included, and since the game is no longer completely historical (immortality and sunset invasion anyone?) is it going to be possible to have a demonic incursion as a new event? Perhaps a powerful demon worshiping society could spawn a hellish army, or perhaps it could appear like the Aztecs and Mongols do, but from the north or south. And, though I know it's not likely, I would love it if Monks and Mystics finally gave us the ability to create our own religion/heresy.

Now that WOULD be cool ! Play with Supernatural Events = On and play until you unleash the Demons of Hell. They have their own culture and cultural troops that just happen to be ten times better than any other troop on the map, appearing asa 100,000 man zero upkeep event horde.

The army appears as an adventurer horde on the capital of the summoning lord, first they conquer, destroy and eat everyone in sight before turning to adjacent realms. A unique government type that allows no builds of any sort and wrong holding penalty for every holding type, but the ability to destroy holdings and consume population for prestige and more troops. Threat level goes through the roof, mankind is only saved by the utmost exertion of every nation on the map, but the heart of Europe has been turned into a barren wasteland.

The only thing more fun than this would be consoling over to the dark side and actually playing as a curb stomping hell spawn while you try to annihilate all of humanity.

Sunset Invasion + Mongol Invasion + Black Plague on Steroids !

 

[Avalon8782]

I'm curious, will there be any particular interactions between the Way of Life Foci, and these Societies?

 

[PapaRocks]

Can I be a pope?

 

[LordDamien]

My Body is ready.. My body is so ready for this expansion.

 

[Metz]

You're over 300 years out of your time with Illuminati.

Complaining just to complain. I said like the Illuminati.

 

[Aztlantix]

So, as this new expansion is about religion and stuff, what do you think about implementing some already existing mods in this sphere? I mean like Ancient Religions Reborn or Holy War Names mod. I mean, this will not change gameplay dramatically, but people who like to play as pagans will surely like it.

 

[Knotz]

Jokes aside I'm guessing many of the supernatural players would like new versions of the old "supernatural" events, like the spawn of satan or the hellmouth, too.

Not me at least, just cuz the fantastical exists doesn't mean everything vaguely weird has to have it as its source.

 

[deezee]

Is it possible that factions and/or plots can be merged into these systems? Or for them to use some of these mechanics?

 

[Cruxador]

And once more, it would not require a rework of the fundamentals of the game. In fact in the most recent patch did they not already implement something that changes succession?

No, no recent patch altered the fact that the player's heritance passes within a single dynasty.

Prior to the announcement of the Raja dlc I'm sure if I had posted a thread asking for India I would've been laughed off the forums.

Because it's a dumb thing to add, not because it's technically difficult. Many people still think it's a dumb thing to add, in fact.

People would've said the same things you are saying now - that implementing a new government type like that with a caste system would be too much effort for the game and would likely result in a half-done system best left to a successor game.

To the extent that people might reasonably say that, that's more or less what happened. The caste system is not something that the player meaningfully interacts with. Limiting a dynasty to only one of the three holding types was never beyond the possibilities of the game though.

Great, then I'm not sure what we are fighting about.

Me neither, near as I can tell you just got mad when I answered your question.

Why is it that asking the developers if a feature is planned gathers such ridicule.

People answering you is not ridicule.

I am asking the developers if they plan on adding a feature to their game.

Since you're posting on a public forum, you're asking everyone. Conveniently, many people here already know the answer, which is why you've been answered.

 

[Rip Off Productions]

So what prevents you from joining a secret one and then exposing all members? Also how would you not get in trouble when you make public you want to join a secret society?

I think it's more an obfuscation of you sneakily seeking out and trying to find members or locations of the secret society and making contact with them in that case.

 

[Kapitalisti]

Lucifer is king, praise Satan!