Bonus Diary: No Step Back Formable & New Tags

[Shneemaster]

Suggestion: Flag some of the "weirder" tags that the AI generally shouldn't release in peace conferences (such as most of these new ones, Occitania, Brittany, the various Chinese warlords, Vichy France, the Spains, the Conferderacy and all similar Civil War tags, and probably some others), and tell the AI not to release those in peace conferences.

 

[MrMcQue]

Suggestion: Flag some of the "weirder" tags that the AI generally shouldn't release in peace conferences (such as most of these new ones, Occitania, Brittany, the various Chinese warlords, Vichy France, the Spains, the Conferderacy and all similar Civil War tags, and probably some others), and tell the AI not to release those in peace conferences.

I second this.

While i appreciate the options given to the player to balkanize his enemies or rp a bit more, the risk is that this becomes a second Occitania where apparently the dream of every AI is to divide France in as many ways as possible. And while Vichy France gets annexed by France after a short period of time, Occitania does not and neither does Brittany or similar.

I know you @Midgeman_Official are the community ambassador and not a dev, but it has been a problem looming for a long time and i hope it is on the radar of those able to fix it or forwarded to them.

 

[PDXMidgeman]

I second this.

While i appreciate the options given to the player to balkanize his enemies or rp a bit more, the risk is that this becomes a second Occitania where apparently the dream of every AI is to divide France in as many ways as possible. And while Vichy France gets annexed by France after a short period of time, Occitania does not and neither does Brittany or similar.

I now you @Midgeman_Official are the community ambassador and not a dev, but it has been a problem looming for a long time and i hope it is on the radar of those able to fix it or forwarded to them.

Hey, suggestions are always welcome, and I can definitely pass stuff on!

 

[DeadHeat16]

Please, on historical AI, make any and all peace conferences historical when done by the AI, because I don't want the AI to release as many nations as possible and annex what ever to create the worst border gore imaginable, non-historical the AI can go nuts for all I care, just when things are historical, make the peace deals historical as well. This is probably the best time to say this as I can't even imagine what the peace deals are going to be like now.

 

[Rachidelson]

While I do appreciate this Diary, I'm afraid of how this will impact peace deals, it is already painful enough to see the Allies dismembering France after a war just because of Vichy, and all these new formables might worsen this problem, but with the Soviet Union. Of course, the french example isn't the only one aswell, but I don't think it's necessary for me to quote more as it has already been acknowledged by the community and devs alike, still, I'm going to say that besides France, countries like Spain and the african colonies also get some of that Allied bordergore.

 

[MrMcQue]

While I do appreciate this Diary, I'm afraid of how this will impact peace deals, it is already painful enough to see the Allies dismembering France after a war just because of Vichy, and all these new formables might worsen this problem, but with the Soviet Union.

I can already imagine Belgian Yakutia and Germany releasing the Peoples Republic of Tatarstan Lmao

 

[Big Mach]

This is pretty devastating for the RP community. We finally have all the tools to Balkanize the USSR east of the Arkhangelsk-Astrakhan line but are still denied any eastern Reichkommisariats other than Ostland and Ukraine. We really believed this dlc would be the moment we AT LEAST got RK Moskowien and RK Kaukasus. Please I BEG the devs, please add this. It’s such a quick fix that people in the community have been hoping for for so long. Pleaaaaase

 

[PDXMidgeman]

No, because of how they work with collab government considering only "primary" core territory, you can only make one collab goverment for the whole SOV tag cores. So you can't make Ukraine collab without making collab for the whole Soviet Union

Touche okay, I understand the difference now. I can't promise anything but understanding what the community wants is part of the job so I'll bring it up

 

[jobarin94]

In absence of proper peace mechanics, most of the time this will just translate to more immersion breaking bordergore

 

[Phaonix]

I'm not sure it makes sense for Tajikistan, an Iranic nation-state, to form Turkestan. They do however have an archaic historical claim to the region, so maybe Turkestan can be called ''Outer Iran'' or ''Sogdia'' or something if formed by TAJ.
But other than that, looks like fun!

 

[Mandred]

I'm asking for the last time. If nobody will answer, the responsible persons will be found and sent to the gulag in Kolyma.

Will the models of Soviet infantry be changed? Who is wearing a trenchcoat all year long? Where are infamous potato colour uniforms?

 

[TempestM]

Why we are still allowed to balkanize Germany only through Napoleon focus but no one else?

 

[DeadHeat16]

This is pretty devastating for the RP community. We finally have all the tools to Balkanize the USSR east of the Arkhangelsk-Astrakhan line but are still denied any eastern Reichkommisariats other than Ostland and Ukraine. We really believed this dlc would be the moment we AT LEAST got RK Moskowien and RK Kaukasus. Please I BEG the devs, please add this. It’s such a quick fix that people in the community have been hoping for for so long. Pleaaaaase

Don't forget RK Don-Wolga, RK Turkestan, and RK Ural

 

[ClavintheGreat]

Under NO circumstances, for ANY reason, can the AI be allowed to release these nations. England decolonizing causes enough grief to my computer. Additionally every peace deal with Russia will end up looking like a Jackson Pollock painting.

 

[DaddySugar331]

We need new Reichskommissariats. I don't know how much we want to see Altai and Vladivostok as separate tags, but we all want new RKS and fix the existing ones

 

[Fulmen]

I repeat my suggestion regarding the KAR tag (see also here).

Also, a releasable Ingria would have been interesting. After all, there were Ingrians fighting for the freedom of their homeland in 1918-20 and 1941-45.

EDIT: To clarify, in HoI4-terms:

Here's East Karelia in its traditional borders:



Here's the Karelian ASSR with its 1938-1940 borders before it was elevated to an SSR:



Here's the Karelo-Finnish SSR when it was founded in 1940:



This is what the Karelo-Finnish SSR would have looked like if Stalin was successful in conquering Finland in the Winter War. It is quite possible that in this scenario the name would have simply been the Finnish SSR. The capital would also have been Helsinki:



This is the Karelian Republic today:



I propose that KAR should start with the cores of the first and second image, receive cores on Finnish territory annexed by SOV up to the fourth image, depending on what kind of peace is signed. Specifically KAR, not SOV. This adding of cores is relevant in the case that the SSRs pop up as tags on the map, or perhaps become independent. If Finland is annexed, then the name of the Karelo-Finnish SSR should change to the Finnish SSR, and just Finland if the SSR then becomes independent. In the latter case the flag should obviously change to the Finnish flag as well. Coding-wise it might be easiest to just let KAR form FIN at that point.

In HoI4-terms, this is what an independent Ingria would look like:



Of course I know these proposals will not make it to NSB's release, and that they are not all feasible in an exact historical configuration border-wise, because it would mean the creation of several very small states, but it would be interesting if they would be implemented at some point even in a somewhat crude fashion.

Ingria is problematic when it comes to Leningrad, because there's no way a multi-million Russian city would be a willing participant (i.e. a core) in an ethnic Finnish Ingrian state, and their population would greatly outnumber the surrounding Ingrian Finns. But then again, the game has crazier cores... Another option would be to split the city of Leningrad off into its own one-province-state and have it not be a core of Ingria. But again, a state that size is not great for gameplay.

 

[TempestM]

So I'm now wondering, how the hell are we supposed to form that Siberia as Tannu-Tuva?

 

[Potionsseller]

Can you guys made more reichskommissariat?

 

[jag95]

Can you guys made more reichskommissariat?

He's right. What about the Reichskommissariats? Eastern europe is why Hitler started the war in the first place and was Germany's goal. You guys haven't talked about that at all. The Nazi's wanted to create a superstate, if i'm not mistaken, by annexing everything all the way up to the A-A line or the Ural mountains. When are you going to implement this in Barbarossa? The Nazi's had more Reichskommissariats planned than just the two we currently have.