Anniversary Maintenance Patch - 2.0.4 (Open Beta)

[Vectormancer]

sorry, that was just me testing different spellings on the off chance I could guess the right one
Yes, I've used allowed_to_declare_war_against_others = yes first and got the error claiming it's an unexpected token

and yes, I am on the new beta. I have access to new effects and triggers. But this parameter doesn't work.

Seems like we got too eager and jumped the gun on this feature . It'll be released soon with the next batch of changes.

 

[SanicK]

Thank you very much por the patch. Keep up the good work!

 

[Blastaz]

Amazing to see this come closer to release.

Any chance at all the code can be updated to allow achievements when playing modded/not iron man like in Victoria 3? I would play so much of this game if I could get achievements without Ironman!

 

[darkyodada]

We are looking into adding this between now and releasing the patch.

What would be cool would be to be able to target religion. Put at the same time for all bad religions or a particular religion like germanic_religion_happiness

 

[Lord Shrapnaks]

Something I believe very strongly needs updating is the mercenary system, specifically, the UI. As it stands hiring mercenaries is an abominably difficult task that shouldn't have anywhere near the amount of hassle it does. I think that having the mercenary tab be divided into folders, one for each region, would go nicely to narrowing down the search for mercenaries. As it stands it's a singular gigantic list of one mercenary after the other and you have no idea where they really are until you hover over the eye icon and find them. And oftentimes the mercenary army you want is just too far away! What if you need to find the best mercenary army in your region right now?

I think a simple solution to this would be to have all mercenary armies on the map be divided into folders, with each folder representing the region they're in. This would very nicely smooth out the UI and make looking for mercenaries less of a hassle, especially if the folders can be arranged to start out with your capital region, and go outward from there.

Another idea I've had for a while is to add more options to the "ah shit! I need some money, now!" options. The Pentarchy of "Cut Military Supplies" "Emergency Tax" "Strongarm" "Neglect Infrastructure" and "Neglect Research." All of those are excellent options, what I'm asking for is the reverse of those: "Increase Military Supplies" "Donate to the Poor" "Support the Priesthood" "Infrastructure Investment" and "Increase Scientific Investment"

 

[goodcigar]

What fixes exactly from Invictus were integrated?

 

[Voy]

What fixes exactly from Invictus were integrated?

Everything under

Integrated fixes provided by the Invictus team:
Thank you Imperator: Invictus Mod Development team with highlight to Robbe Vander Kerken (aka Snowlet) & Nathaniel Van Drei (aka Dementive)

 

[KBKDB]

There are several things holding this game back from greatness in my opinion:

1. Introduce legion templates so that the AI is competent and competitive. There is this weird dynamic where once an AI nation starts making legions, it actually becomes far weaker... Mainly because the legion compositions are absolutely awful. Easiest fix would be to introduce AI legion templates similar to the levy templates. Otherwise it is a complete and utter clown fiesta, especially with a mod like Invictus. It is not the fault of the mod. The AI just has no idea how to handle legion compositions, especially if a mod goes a step further to introduce new units.
2. Get rid of this dull feature where Legions are gaining negative traits upon losing battles. It is one of the worst and most poorly-thought out functionalities in the whole game. A small mistake and an unfortunate dice roll leaves your legion branded with no possible redemption and even if there is such, no such information is conveyed back to the player. This feature ruins warfare to such an extent that I have had players opt-out of having legions completely and relying on levies instead.
3. Do something so that barbarians are more of a threat. They are absolutely pathetic. The buffs they get when it comes to levy multiplier are negligible and do not compensate their shortcomings. Barbarians are suffering from so many issues it is not even funny:
   1. The way levies work and how supply wagons are distributed means that a tiny fraction of the army gets all the supplies, leaving the rest to starve.
   2. Once barbarians advance to a more "civilised" government, they actually become even weaker... They lose their levy multiplier bonus, yet they are behind on research and then they start pumping out legions with nonsensical compositions. A triple whammy of AI incompetence, poorly designed game features and imbalance coming together.

I am aware it is a long shot to work on any of this. But I still thought it is worth pointing out. There are some serious flaws in foundational mechanics of the game, which ruin the whole experience, at least for me. Especially when it comes to warfare and how good of a fight the AI can put up.

This goes beyond a fix here or there. Fundamental features of the game need to be looked at and adjusted. No amount of modding is going to fix the AI sabotaging itself by spamming legions made up of 2 unit types only (often ones which make absolutely no sense). No amount of modding is going to fix barbarians being a laughing stock - nothing but a place-holder of territories. No amount of modding is going to fix the awful legion distinction system. Introducing supply wagons as its own unit was one of the worst mistakes ever made. It made warfare so much worse. It absolutely crippled the AI, especially barbarians. The whole game is riddled with issues, mainly because of poorly thought-out systems which do not gel well together and they often come at the expense of the AI's competence and ability to handle those new features.

 

[Lord Shrapnaks]

There are several things holding this game back from greatness in my opinion:

1. Introduce legion templates so that the AI is competent and competitive. There is this weird dynamic where once an AI nation starts making legions, it actually becomes far weaker... Mainly because the legion compositions are absolutely awful. Easiest fix would be to introduce AI legion templates similar to the levy templates. Otherwise it is a complete and utter clown fiesta, especially with a mod like Invictus. It is not the fault of the mod. The AI just has no idea how to handle legion compositions, especially if a mod goes a step further to introduce new units.
2. Get rid of this dull feature where Legions are gaining negative traits upon losing battles. It is one of the worst and most poorly-thought out functionalities in the whole game. A small mistake and an unfortunate dice roll leaves your legion branded with no possible redemption and even if there is such, no such information is conveyed back to the player. This feature ruins warfare to such an extent that I have had players opt-out of having legions completely and relying on levies instead.
3. Do something so that barbarians are more of a threat. They are absolutely pathetic. The buffs they get when it comes to levy multiplier are negligible and do not compensate their shortcomings. Barbarians are suffering from so many issues it is not even funny:
   1. The way levies work and how supply wagons are distributed means that a tiny fraction of the army gets all the supplies, leaving the rest to starve.
   2. Once barbarians advance to a more "civilised" government, they actually become even weaker... They lose their levy multiplier bonus, yet they are behind on research and then they start pumping out legions with nonsensical compositions. A triple whammy of AI incompetence, poorly designed game features and imbalance coming together.

I am aware it is a long shot to work on any of this. But I still thought it is worth pointing out. There are some serious flaws in foundational mechanics of the game, which ruin the whole experience, at least for me. Especially when it comes to warfare and how good of a fight the AI can put up.

This goes beyond a fix here or there. Fundamental features of the game need to be looked at and adjusted. No amount of modding is going to fix the AI sabotaging itself by spamming legions made up of 2 unit types only (often ones which make absolutely no sense). No amount of modding is going to fix barbarians being a laughing stock - nothing but a place-holder of territories. No amount of modding is going to fix the awful legion distinction system. Introducing supply wagons as its own unit was one of the worst mistakes ever made. It made warfare so much worse. It absolutely crippled the AI, especially barbarians. The whole game is riddled with issues, mainly because of poorly thought-out systems which do not gel well together and they often come at the expense of the AI's competence and ability to handle those new features.

Same here, man. I actually pointed out the infuriating issue of a single barbarian army getting ALL of the region's supply wagons. As for the Legion Dishonors, I generally agree, with the main exception being the one for a Legion fighting on the losing end of a civil war, and the one for desecrating your own holy sites. Whilst Rapax should be reworked to be "rewarded" for razing your own cities, including during a civil war, other than that, I think all Legion Dishonors should be "rewarded" via a 3 strike system. If said legion, say, loses 3 battles in a row within the span of a decade.

One thing I'd really love is for Tribesmen to remain relevant to civilized factions, I think it'd be super awesome if there was a checkbox next to all minor settlements that gives the option for said settlement to have its desired pop ration adjusted to the level it'd be if the faction owner were tribal, and that it'd provide +15% Tribesmen happiness. Naturally, this checkbox should only be available to civilized factions. Beyond this though, there should absolutely be things done to rework tribes, which they desperately need.

 

[udkudk]

I have suggestions for games auto trade script:

My thoughts on Automatic Trade Script:

Automatic Trade script should be able to take in count food production modifiers in a province, and calculate how much food it need to;

1st: Not starve in winter (priority is this)
2nd: Fill the Food Storage (if there's enough trade slots and food trade good production in world) (might need to enable this after a few months in order to make sure every state in world will not starve)

Also Food Trade Goods may need adjusting of their food production, late game there might be lack of them, which could cause starvation.


Script should start at 1st Capital States of Countries, then Capital Region, and Other Regions at last.

Food must calculated and imported or removed first before other trade goods.

Excess Food Trade Goods Routes must be removed. No need to waste Trade Slots.

Script also should not try to import food if target for export state will starve if that food trade good is exported to you (Maybe storing state variables which includes how many food trade goods are reserved for state in order to not starve)

It might be best to create multiple versions of trade scripts that become activated with related decisions and global variables.

For example one version which prioritizes subject trades, one version that is more performance heavy (calculating which trade good to trade based on, e.g. preffering slave happiness trade goods if slaves are unhappy), a version that is super efficient (for slow computers), a version where script prioritizes filling food storage to max for food surplus bonuses (for 0.20% pop growth bonus)

Hell, with global or country variables, it's actually possible for players to configure a trade script to their liking via events if script is made modular.


Maybe this script structure would be best:

In Order of Priority:
1- Monthly Food Calculation script for all provinces:
This is converted to which and how much food trade goods province can export or needs to import (food equivalent), taking into count food modifiers, and writing results into state variables.
e.g. set_variable = {
name = food_requirement
value = **value in required food is (+), surplus food is (-)
}

2- Capital Province Script (Called a few days after 1st Script):
This one 1st reads Capitals food_requirement variable and if it's positive, imports food trade goods, then if there's empty trade slots, fill them with other trade goods to get capital surplus.

3- Food Import script for all provinces except capital provinces (Called a few days after 2nd Script):
Checks 1st Capital Region provinces, then other provinces.
Checks food_requirement state variables of scoped provinces;
A- If value is bigger than 0, starts checking other provinces which their food_requirement variable is below 0, and import food trade goods if they have excess trade good to export to our starving province.
If all trade routes are filled, and there's still not enough food, check if there's active non-food trade routes, and cancel them (low value 1st) one by one while importing food.
B- If value is below 0 (or -100 etc), check if there's any food being imported, if there's, calculate and delete trade route if necessary. This will free trade slots in event of excess food import.

4- Generic Non-Food script for all provinces except capital provinces (Called a few days after 3rd Script):
If there's empty trade slots, Import trade goods with high value priority 1st (maybe import from specific categories to increase happiness of low happiness pops)
If there's no empty trade slots, skip target province

5- Capital Surplus fixer script for Capital Province (Called a few days after 4th Script):
Recheck Capital Surpluses and remove export trade routes if goods produced in Capital Province doesn't give Surplus bonus because they get exported. This should be last script.

These scripts need a way of detecting differences, e.g. not activated if pop food consumption is same as last month, in order to improve performance via only running scripts for target provinces only if necessary.

Can start scripts via delayed hidden events, with each one getting called by previous script.
1st script can start via monthly pulse.

Also script can notify players and AI if food storage isn't enough or there isn't enough trade slots. (current starvation / low food pop up usually appears too late to do anything about it) (edited)

 

[Lyov]

Legends! Thanks for updating the game, especially the mod support.

Any chance of a province effect to start a tribal migration?

 

[SeekTruthFromFx]

Something I believe very strongly needs updating is the mercenary system, specifically, the UI. As it stands hiring mercenaries is an abominably difficult task that shouldn't have anywhere near the amount of hassle it does. I think that having the mercenary tab be divided into folders, one for each region, would go nicely to narrowing down the search for mercenaries. As it stands it's a singular gigantic list of one mercenary after the other and you have no idea where they really are until you hover over the eye icon and find them. And oftentimes the mercenary army you want is just too far away! What if you need to find the best mercenary army in your region right now?

Don't you look at your region on the map, hover over the various mercenaries, and then click on the one you want to hire?

This goes beyond a fix here or there. Fundamental features of the game need to be looked at and adjusted.

Therefore everything you have written is off-topic for a thread about "a small maintenance patch" made in their (paid) personal dev time. You should start a new thread.

 

[Martocticvs]

Great to see another update!

I'd like to suggest one small improvement for any future patch you might make, to the way supply wagons work. As someone above pointed out, the way things work with levies is that usually one of the mini stacks gets the supply wagons, whilst the rest are left without any, and there's no way to combine them. My suggestion is to allow all units to draw food from any owned supply wagon in the same territory as them, regardless of whether they are in the same stack.

Actually, one other suggestion, again related to the levies and their mini stacks. It would be nice if we could group stacks together. Sometimes you find that all the cavalry went into one of the mini stacks, and it's then much faster than the others, so you have to constaly micro to make sure everyone arrives together. If they could be grouped together so that all stacks in the group move at the speed of the slowest, that would make life a lot easier!

 

[Civit]

Thanks

 

[PDXKatten]

New Update to Open Beta

# Effects
- Added play_sound_effect which allows you to play a sound effect, targeting a country (ported from ck3)
- Added set_antagonist = yes/no effect.

# Triggers
- Added has_capital_surplus to check for the existance of any capital bonuses from the state's owner
- Added has_capital_bonus_for_trade_good to check for the existance of any captial bonuses for the specific trade good

# Other
- Added a property for subject types to allow them to bypass usual subject diplomatic limitations for declaring war (allowed_to_declare_war_against_others). This is not enabled by default for the base game. To fully enable this to work you'll also need to change the allow triggers for wargoals
- Added modifiers for local_happiness_for_wrong_religion_modifier and happiness_for_wrong_religion_modifier which is applied on top of regular happiness for the same religion modifiers. Also fixed a typo with define for WRONG_RELIGION_HAPPINESS which applies always regardless of modifiers (currently set to )
- Made all hardcoded values related to civil wars moddable through define & added documentation on what they mean

 

[IsaacCAT]

Modders going berserk!

What are they going to do with all these new tools?

 

[SanicK]

Thanks very much for the continued work!

 

[SAS]

The new civil war modifications are massive!

 

[Diskianterezh]

Modders going berserk!

What are they going to do with all these new tools?

probably more mission trees with "UNIFY BYZANTION" branchs

the usual in short

 

[Diskianterezh]

- Made all hardcoded values related to civil wars moddable through define & added documentation on what they mean

Are you sure you want us to interact with the civil war code ? It might destroy the very fabric of the universe