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Chapter CXXXIV: The Tyranny of the Minority
Chapter CXXXIV: The Tyranny of the Minority

There is an investing adage which holds that the best time to sell your shares in a large company is just after it has started work on it’s new and palatial headquarters. While perhaps not entirely serious there is a kernel of logic behind this; an organisation devoting large amounts of time, money and effort to making itself look more impressive risks neglecting it’s actual purpose. Prior to the Abyssinian War a similar argument could have be made about the League of Nations. After the initial blow of the United States declining to join, the early years had seen a steady growth in membership and some considerable successes; mediating countless territorial disputes, repatriating over 400,000 ex-POWs from Russia and starting influential and well supported commission on everything from working conditions to drug control. Buoyed by these successes, and increasing US involvement in League bodies such as the International Labour Organisation, League officials and supporters began talking about “The Spirit of Geneva”, convinced that a new era of international co-operation, collective security and negotiated solutions had dawned. Obviously the over-seers of this new age would need a suitable building and so it was decided in 1929 to build a new ‘Palace of the Nations’. This impressive new structure would replace the existing League headquarters, the unfortunately titled 'Palais Wilson' which had been named after the US President who had been a vocal support of the League, but had subsequently failed to convince his countrymen to join.

This optimistic vision of the power and status of the League, which had been somewhat questionable as early as the 1923 Corfu Crisis, was finally shattered by the Manchurian Incident in 1931. In summary Japan staged an attack on the Manchurian Railway, blamed China and then used that as a pretext to occupy Manchuria and install a puppet as "Emperor of Manchukuo". The mechanisms of the League worked thoroughly, if slowly; observers were sent and a report written (the damning Lytton Report) which clearly stated the attack was faked and that Japan had planned the entire incident. The League Council and Assembly accepted those findings and demanded Japan apologise, pay compensation and that Manchuria be returned to China. At this point the League's dream of collective security effectively collapsed when, instead of accepting the verdict and complying, Japan just quit the League and the League Council failed to impose any sanction or consequence beyond harsh words. This was followed up with another pair of serious blow later in the year when the World Disarmament Conference in Geneva collapsed, an event Germany used as justification to also quit the League.

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A typically direct David Low cartoon on the subject of the Manchurian Incident. The gentleman applying the 'face-saving outfit' was Sir John Simon, the then British Foreign Secretary. Widely regarded by his contemporaries as one of the worst inhabitants of the office he lived down to his reputation during the Incident and failed to even convincingly condemn the Japanese, let alone do anything to deter them. Of wider relevance the Incident also laid bare the inherent tension between the League's ongoing quest for it's members to disarm and it's requirements that they be militarily strong enough to enforce collective security. The failure of the League, or it's supporters, to ever really engage with this issue and propose a solution was a far more serious failing than any of the missteps or embarrassments that Simon committed while at the Foreign Office.

By 1936 the first sections of the 'Palace of the Nations' were being completed and the League was starting to move in, just in time for the Abyssinian Crisis to escalate into full blown war. The crisis had initially appeared to be 'just' another turn on the League's downward spiral; yet another ignored resolution and a further failure of collective security. The intervention of the British and the outbreak of the Abyssinian War was initially greeted with despair in Geneva, in attempting to stop a small war the League feared they had provoked a much larger one. This mood was lifted in the aftermath of the Treaty of Valletta as it became apparent that the affair had, as a side effect, propelled the League back into a degree of relevance. While few really believed that the British had been wholly or even substantially motivated by the League's resolutions, the British invocation of a council decision as one of her justifications for action had raised the profile of the pronouncements of the League. The League non-intervention agreement around Spain was also a minor triumph, not for it's limited impact on the ground in Spain but for getting most of the non-League powers (Germany, Italy, the US and, quixotically, Japan) to turn up to a conference and then sign the agreement. A further boost came when the British 'encouraged' the restored Abyssinian government to invite the League Slavery Commission into the country to ensure the vile practice was stamped out, a plan that coincidentally ensured that any anger from the Abyssinian elite about this attached itself to the League and not Britain. Buoyed by this the Commission re-invigorated it's anti-slavery efforts in Liberia, an effort which soon attracted further US engagement with the League on the many problems Liberia was facing.

For the League and it's officials the dark lining to this silver cloud soon became apparent; with relevance came demagogues and provocateurs. As the major, and not-so major, powers started paying more attention to the League it once again became an excellent platform for airing grievances, rabble rousing and generally expressing international hatred. The vast majority of these involved irredentism, a belief that some 'lost' territory should be restored or some never-actually-owned territory was clearly part of the 'Greater' version of an existing country and so should be transferred. This was nothing new for the League, indeed an entire machinery had been developed to deal with such complaints, what had changed was the approach of the complaining groups. Previously few had bothered to engage with the League, correctly suspecting their claims would either get bogged down or thrown out. The unfortunate experience of the Norwegian claim on Greenland (the so called Erik the Red's Land), which had been rejected by the Permanent Court of International Justice in 1933, was widely seen as a salutary warning; if you pressed a claim too hard it could be undermined forcing you to withdraw it. The problem for the League was the realisation that, for a grievance mongering leader, a rejection was in many ways better than success. A success 'merely' got some land back, but an international body or court ruling against the nation was an insult, a bunch of ignorant foreigners callously ignoring the suffering of fellow countrymen, the resulting anger and outrage could carry a skilful leader to power and help maintain them once there.

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Eten Island, Truk Lagoon in the Japanese South Pacific Mandate. The large amount of (illegal) construction work done to build a large airstrip on the tiny island can clearly be seen. While the vast majority of issues that overwhelmed the League originated in Europe, there were some from further afield. The South Pacific Mandate had been granted to Japan in 1919, over the vociferous objections of the far closer Australians, as a Class C Mandate, which meant the islands were to remain demilitarised and subject to annual League scrutiny. By the late 1920s Japan was routinely obstructing any attempt at scrutiny and by the time of Japan's departure was widely (and correctly) suspected of starting to fortify the islands. The Australian delegation took the opportunity of the League's recovery in standing to restate their position; if Japan had left the League then it was no longer eligible to hold the mandate and it should be stripped from them. In the alternative, if Japan was still eligible, then the League should insist on the resumption of annual scrutiny. While the actual position of Geneva was well known, the League had no intention of making further demands of Japan that it knew would be ignored, putting this into an acceptable form of words proved challenging for the inhabitants of the Palace of Nations.

The aftermath of the Amsterdam Conference made the problems worse, the only reason the conference hadn't re-opened old wounds was that most of the wounds in question were far too raw to need re-opening. Over the winter of 1936 the machinery of the League, primarily the Minorities Commission, the Delimitation Commission and the Permanent Court of International Justice were overwhelmed with claims, allegations and demands for investigation. These ranged from well established problems (the mass of claims and counter-claims in the Balkans) to new issues (Turkey's effort to get the Court of International Justice to declare the Treaty of Lausanne illegal). For many in the League bureaucracy the final straw was the demand by the Irish Free State that the League instruct Britain to 'return' Northern Ireland to Dublin. While the claim was easy enough to dismiss, being essentially baseless and intended for domestic election purposes rather than a serious effort to convince anyone else of it's merits, it was dispiriting to find that even a previously model League member was engaging with such bad faith. The beleaguered League officials desperately asked the Council for additional staff and resources to cope with the avalanche of work, when that was rejected they responded by designating whole swathes of the claims as 'political' and kicking them up for the Council to deal with.

This decision by the League's officials was both correct and the one thing the Council wished to avoid. The members of the Council were well aware of the political machinations behind the cases and so were keen for them to be dealt with in the standard way; thoroughly, bureaucratically and above all grindingly, glacially, slowly. This allowed them to grandly pontificate about complainants needing to work through the League and avoid the complications and consequences of the Council making actual decisions. These delaying tactics should not be confused with the absence of a long term plan because there was one, it just wasn't a plan anyone wanted to discuss. Essentially the Council members were unofficially in favour of assimilation and integration, the wreckage of the Austro-Hungarian Empire was seen as a warning sign about how well multi-ethnic European states worked, so integrating minorities into the dominant culture was seen as the least bad option. On this basis the Minorities Commission would turn a blind eye to almost any allegation if the defending state could plausibly claim their actions were to support the integration of the minority. In part this hit the irregular verb problem; I am promoting an integrated state, you are forcibly integrating unwilling minorities, they are implementing discriminatory policies. The larger problem was a failure to appreciate the scope of the problem, the League system was not set up to deal with the disputes were the minority in the country was receiving extensive support from their notional motherland. It was perhaps an appreciation of this flaw that prompted the Council's solution; ruling out any claim from a minority where their claimed motherland was not a league member. While this was, at best, legally dubious there was enough in it to convince the Permanent Court to back it and naturally the other League bodies were happy for the Council to impose consequence on non-members. While in practice this measure only impacted German and Italian claims, that was still enough to significantly reduce the workload and unclog the system, in as much as a system designed to run slowly could ever be unclogged.

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German irredentist propaganda from the 1920s, showing the 'lost' lands in Red under the banner "Lost - but not forgotten country". The poster shows the scale of the problem, not only is Austria already assumed to be part of Greater Germany (as Deutschösterreich) the map maker has adopted several 'Austrian' irredentist views and claimed areas of Yugoslavia, Hungary and Italy. Similarly ambitious maps could also be found in Italy, asserting Rome as the rightful owner of the Dalmatian coast, Corsica, several other part of France and Switzerland and enthusiastically supporting Austria's right to be a proud, free, not-German country (as long as Austria freely chose to be part of Italy's sphere of influence). It should be clear that the people behind such claims were not the type to let a bureaucratic slight of hand by the League of Nations stop them from advancing their cause.

For the aggrieved minority groups, and their foreign backers, there was a short pause while the leaders and propagandist worked out how to respond to this judgement. While the actual significance was small, the claims were always more emotional than practical and so were not vulnerable to mere legality, it was still another blow for causes that were struggling. Both Italy and Germany had suffered humiliating setbacks in the previous year and, while they had retained their facades of economic strength, they were not the respected powers they had been. It is one thing to agitate to join a more successful and prestigious neighbour, quite another to convince people to join a recently defeated one. That said the underlying issues had not been resolved, indeed many nations saw this as a justification to accelerate their 'integration' efforts, so the movements did not disappear or become irrelevant, merely weakened and forced to look for alternative routes. As the poem by German irredentist Paul Warncke put it on the poster above "You must carve in your heart these words, as in stone: What we have lost, Will be regained!" The challenge for the Great Powers and the League was to prevent this emotional cry from becoming a prophecy.

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Notes:

There are so many good David Low and Bernard Partridge cartoons to chose from about the League of Nations being rubbish, but 'The Doormat' is a classic. Sir John Simon was legendarily useless as Foreign Secretary, though apparently not that bad in other jobs, and was criticised by absolutely everyone for his comprehensive failures while in that office.

As a reminder there is no Condor Legion or Italian volunteer army. Certainly there are hordes of foreign advisors and trainers, some of whom end up on the front line, but nothing like OTL. As mentioned the US signed up to the non-intervention agreement for domestic reasons ('Proof' that Moral Neutrality didn't mean getting involved), which met a mixed domestic reception. I have Japan signing up just because everyone else did, their status was very important to them and if every other 'Great Power' signed up they had to either also sign or grandly announce they weren't. If they didn't sign then there would be pressure to follow that defiance up with action and, fun as the idea of a Japanese expeditionary force to Monarchist Spain would be, that didn't seem likely.

In OTL Japan started flattening Eten Island in 1934, the collected rubble being pushed into the sea to reclaim more land. Work on the airstrip officially started in 1937 after the Naval Treaties, which also limited fortifications in the Pacific Islands, had expired. Because of the logistical problem getting there, and the need to reclaim so much land from the sea and wait for it to dry out, it wasn't until 1943 that "Takeshima Air Base" on Eten island finally opened as fully equipped military airbase. This was just in time for it to get brutally flattened by the Americans as the Pacific Campaign hit high gear.

I am probably being a bit unfair on de Valera here, Ireland really did engage with the League and successive Irish leaders did take it all very seriously, probably because they realised Collective Security was a less hypocritical plan than their 'Sneak away from the Empire while still relying on the UK to defend us' scheme. However I keep getting spammed by 'Ireland demands you return Belfast and Portadown' messages in game, so my thinking is that as the trade war is going far, far worse than OTL. Due to this, and a few other butterflies we shall look at in the elections update, de Valera's is not doing well so he is resorting to tried and tested Brit-poking to drum up support before the upcoming vote.

German claims on everyone nearby predate Hitler, though he certainly did his part in raising their profile. I was hitherto unaware that Belgium had acquired a bit of Germany after the war, Eupen and Malmedy being transferred after a deeply dodgy process (you had to send your full name and address to the Belgian Military governor and ask for the area to be transferred back to Germany. If you didn't write a letter that counted as being in favour of becoming part of Belgium). That said Belgium was never keen on the place and tried to sell it back to Weimar Germany for 200 million gold marks, until the French vetoed the plan as they thought it set a bad precedent (French inter-war Foreign Policy mistake #413). Got annexed by the Nazis after the invasion, most of the men conscripted and sent to the Eastern Front, transferred back to Belgium and the surviving population interrogated by the Belgian police as collaborators. Not a happy place to be honest.
 
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This is an excellent summary of the work so far, even I'm interested and I was there.

Well it's turning into a summary now, which means I'm wondering what to do. Keep extending this edit so everyone knows where it is or fling it out over multiple pages?

I am currently on photohosting site Number 4

Huh. I mean I suppose they all went through frequent changes in the late 2000's but why so Many?

Chapter CXXXIV: The Tyranny of the Minority

There's an irony to this title.

A further boost came when the British 'encouraged' the restored Abyssinian government to invite the League Slavery Commission into the country to ensure the vile practice was stamped out, a plan that coincidentally ensured that any anger from the Abyssinian elite about this attached itself to the League and not Britain.

That is classic foreign office gambiting and therefore presumably actually came from the Indian office. Still, encouraging to see empire building tricks being used again, that's encouraging for future success.

generally expressing international hatred

Leads to more column inches though, which is always a measurable show of political success.

For many in the League bureaucracy the final straw was the demand by the Irish Free State that the League instruct Britain to 'return' Northern Ireland to Dublin.

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A bit desperate of them considering Ireland is maybe going bankrupt. I think the unionists and loyalists in the free state may well be charged up to do something about this silly trade dispute at some point. Clearly they can't leave Britian until the empire collapses and they have a chance of at least some independant trade policy. Or that could be the debate anyway.

the wreckage of the Austro-Hungarian Empire was seen as a warning sign about how well multi-ethnic European states worked

Everyone just ignore the United Kingdom on the council, made of three kingdoms and four countries, two of which have deep divides within themsevles, one of which is completely unrecognised and one that openly delights in ruling over the other three.

In part this hit the irregular verb problem; I am promoting an integrated state, you are forcibly integrating unwilling minorities, they are implementing discriminatory policies.

Yes but in German, you don't have this problem.

Similarly ambitious maps could also be found in Italy, asserting Rome as the rightful owner of the Dalmatian coast, Corsica, several other part of France and Switzerland

I suppose German and Italian minorities and sometimes majorities do in face have good cases for returning to the mother country. It's been their land for centuries after all and suddenly isn't. However, to get those lands back means making France even smaller and taking their riviera away, as well as much of the south and east of the country, and giving some Belgian land back too.

However I keep getting spammed by 'Ireland demands you return Belfast and Portadown' messages in game, so my thinking is that as the trade war is going far, far worse than OTL.

Yeah, this isn't good for either side to be honest. Economically far worse for Ireland but makes the place more and more desperate and looking for any salvation. imagine if they turned to Germany, or worse, France?

Further reading: the first truly head-tilting events begin to happen on page 123 (yes really). No surprise that it's the first proper India chapter too. Gandhi dies in disgrace, torn apart by rebels in the north west, the Indian princes get their asses handed to them (not too suprisng but still) and the INC essentially collapses for an undisclosed period of time, allowing for the Liberals (British lickers) to come back from the dead and look to take greater action on the subcontinent. All this coincidentally just before Chamberlain decides to return to India and try to fix it (and Churchill is defanged also, of course).

Some readers did express some incredulity at the time, whilst others saw this as the beginning of the rise of Super Churchill, and thought that was a good thing. Overall, we'll see where this goes later on.

EDIT: as it turns out, india was simplified to make parliament more complcated. The Nat Liberals left the government and the Con party is suffering internal rumblings. Mind you, some good was accomplished. India got Burma and Aden removed from their grip so the place isn't so ungodly massive, though more divisions are going to be necessary going forward. Pakistan definitely has to go or be federalised so they have a voice in this new system.

Edit: oh, and of course this parliamentary confusion led to a war on liberalism and the left wing in general. The Nat Libs are split between the Liberals and Cons, the Labour Party split six different ways (for some reason the pacifist super commies are still around and had the balls to form a new party) and all of them got drunk in the lower house bar (cracking place by the way, if depressing conversation is your thing) and wobbling towards some kind of new left liberal labour super party that will have unified the left vote (and is thus at least on paper unbeatable) but will almost certainly die a horrible and bloody death in politics or government. It's also called LSD.

Meanwhile the Cons are resusitating the Empire and showing Fascism and France wots wot. Just...the blueness bleeds from this chapter like a British Rump.
 
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Huh. I mean I suppose they all went through frequent changes in the late 2000's but why so Many?

Probably because so many turned into pay sites as their storage costs rose. Happy Capitalism, that...

Everyone just ignore the United Kingdom on the council, made of three kingdoms and four countries, two of which have deep divides within themsevles, one of which is completely unrecognised and one that openly delights in ruling over the other three.

Unrecognized == Wales?

... and all of them got drunk in the lower house bar (cracking place by the way, if depressing conversation is your thing)

I thought Parliament was similar to Congress with a two-drink minimum...
 
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Unrecognized == Wales?

Yup.

I thought Parliament was similar to Congress with a two-drink minimum...

Not allowed drink at all in the Houses except maybe water sometimes (not sure, that might also be banned). Only exception is when the chancellor gives his budget speech. He can drink whatever he likes while he does it, government buying. Naturally quite a few take the oppurtunity to have something very cheap and cheerful.

Edit: pg 141. The Indescribably Exciting Tungsten Story (opens link to file)

The chapter after that has an amusing mistake in which the army and the RAF are arguing over communication primacy and want control for themselves. However the chapter itself says: 'the Army favouring the latter while the Air Force argued for the latter.'

We are also over halfway through the work and in early 2010, so I think it is clear that the main problem was not in fact meandering slower than time detailing pedantics, but children.

P. 148 incidentally is when El Pip first responds to the idea of a tractor update. It's Sir Humphrey's fault.

Things go a bit mad after that. There's a tangent on Obama that swiftly attaches itself to Clinton and the falklands (because that woman is poison). Another on General McArthur, which was very onesided until a random came out of nowhere, flamed the thread and then vanished. And then everyone's started singing. In the heady days of March 2010 I'm sure it all made sense.

Anyway, long story short we got a brief update on how everyone of interest in Spain was now dead and then three chapters on tractors and British meat handling.

Someone floated the great idea of looking into chocolate industries at this point, and for some reason absolutely no one took up that banner except to talk about songs again. The community back then was strange...anyway, +1 for chocolate bars. R. Dahl wrote on his time at school the Cadbury brothers sent experimental chocolates round to test on the boys. Clearly this was an industry worthy of a chapter or two. Or dozen. Come on, if trekaddict is going to continue to ignore what happened to Walt Disney, el Pip can at least make up for it by talking about what chocolate we're getting in this timeline.

Further reading: page 167 basically murders the US economy for the next few decades. The mob has near total control over inner cities, transport unions, alcohol manufacturing and distribution. Corruption is rife everywhere, the states utterly despise one another and lobby incessantly, blocking Washington a lot, a Washington that really doesn't want to confront their own issues. What with all this and loads of firms, including the gigantic Ford, banking most of their futures on credit from republican Spain, there is a massive crash coming. Not sure whether it will come within the timeframe of the AAr, but if not certainly within the next decade. With a smaller one that might become larger when the republic loses the war and no one recognises the debts.

Edit: having destroyed all foreign competition aside from British dominions, we return to conservative corner and some old fashioned union bashing. In this case, quite justifiably, as the ship building industry essentially isn't, and is completely under the thumb of the riveter unions. They thus freak out when they figure out welding is going to screw them out of absolute power and impose a complete standstill to shipbilding in Britian. During Royal Navy refit and expansion. And the Depression. I can only imagine what Belfast was looking like when that went down.

Oh, and the BP oil spill fiasco was occurring at the time, so there was so much crack at either and all sides, general jingoism and other such romtot that moderators waded in and banished the discussion back to the OT black hole from whence it came. This naturally led to singing, once again.

Further reading: the jet engine makes a brief appearance and so does the entire rocket research field in time for chapter 100. At the time, there was much celebration and jokes about 100 chapters=1 year and a bit of game time. And then another about reaching M before reaching 1945. Which...yes.

Also Austen C just died, which is sad. The victorians are finally begining to fade away from the establishment, but have done a pretty good job at revitalizing the Empire. Sadly they have not yet revitalized the Grand Old Liberal Party but the possibility remains if we are very fortunate and eat all our vegetables.

The Spanish civil war comes back up again, to remind everyone that the front lines have again not changed. This will happen every so often for the next nine years. Spain suddenly got interesting when Barcelona fell to the republicans, and the thread celebrated by coming up with various teddy bear porn jokes. I'm not joking. On p. 193 even Pippy gets stuck in, doing heinous things to Winnie the Pooh.

Last edit: I get to page 200 (still in early 2011 with only 60 page so till 2019 to go). 205 has Pip revealing he's to be wed in the summer and moving into a house. The French train network teeters on financial collapse and southern rail tries to expand into Normandy. For some reason they are surprised when France says they'd rather nationalise their whole network than have them buy it out.

As it turns out, nothing happened in 2012 or much in 2013, but 2014 has a brief period of progression on Dutch naval and war plans until p. 220 ruins it by bringing football to th table. We then spend the rest of 2014 trying to fix the issue of getting teams across the Atlantic to South America without flying in a giant Nazi balloon. In the meantime, the thread went mad again, voting incessantly and spouting everything from dr who scripts to biblical prophecy (227-228 are the height of it). And then in early November, or the next page, Mrs Pip sinks the Mighty Bismarck by giving birth, something that this British aar has been utterly defeated by ever since. Indeed, the page slips from November 2014 to nobermber 2015 in three comments, which is a display of time travel so advanced I doubt it has ever been matched on this site. Davout starts singing again. Adele this time, which shows how much time has passed.

But never mind that, momentous news! I have reached my first comment on the thread and on the forums! It's at this point that the AAR truly got back on track...p. 230 for history buffs. What follows is pages of people greeting me and, having long gone insane, try to recruit me to their various Tech Porn factions. And Dury, who is a communist. Pip's response was a chapter on cricket. And giving an updated map on British Africa for the first time. Check it out on p. 232

Last edit cos up to date: and then little happened. Some people joined and we talked about how germany was doomed no matter whar happened. And then instead of finally talking about the irish tarif war that started in the first ten chapters of the aar, we voted for more naval stuff. Of course...
 
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There's an irony to this title.
I do hope so. As has been mentioned I do like to put some thought and effort into my chapter titles.

That is classic foreign office gambiting and therefore presumably actually came from the Indian office. Still, encouraging to see empire building tricks being used again, that's encouraging for future success.
As you doubtless noticed back in **checks notes** Chapter LV the Indian Office does indeed consider East Africa to be within it's area of interest and so tries to 'help out' over such issues. Obviously the Foreign Office hates this, but things have not reached the point of refusing to do good idea just because they didn't think of them, so they have grurdgingly adopted this scheme.


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A bit desperate of them considering Ireland is maybe going bankrupt. I think the unionists and loyalists in the free state may well be charged up to do something about this silly trade dispute at some point. Clearly they can't leave Britian until the empire collapses and they have a chance of at least some independant trade policy. Or that could be the debate anyway.
These points and what Irish politicians propose to do about it shall be discussed when we look at the Irish election in but a couple of updates time. Should probably be this calendar year.

Everyone just ignore the United Kingdom on the council, made of three kingdoms and four countries, two of which have deep divides within themsevles, one of which is completely unrecognised and one that openly delights in ruling over the other three.
Britain did not consider itself European at that point, and indeed neither did anyone else. It's arguable the majority of the population has never considered itself European, even if certain political leaders have desperately wished they would.[/QUOTE]

Meanwhile the Cons are resusitating the Empire and showing Fascism and France wots wot. Just...the blueness bleeds from this chapter like a British Rump.
It was an utterly majestic period.
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Alas it could not last.

Short but sweet update this time around.
I must ask h, @El Pip , but did you got inspired at all by the "Orphans of Versailles" when writing this update on the European theater?
This is the point we've reached gentle readers, 2,500 words+ is considered short but sweet. The standards of Butterfly are not those of other works.

Aside from general background knowledge, the actual inspiration started from the Slovak situation. The Sudeten Germans may have had it worse, but the Czechs weren't exactly fair or pleasant to the Slovaks either. While I couldn't work that example in, it did spark of the research into the League Minorities Comission and it all spiralled from there.

Probably because so many turned into pay sites as their storage costs rose. Happy Capitalism, that...
Can't really object to someone covering their costs I suppose. But Photobuckets effort at trying to charge $400/year flat rate was pretty cheeky.

I thought Parliament was similar to Congress with a two-drink minimum...
That would improve things no end.

I stand by that description.

P. 148 incidentally is when El Pip first responds to the idea of a tractor update. It's Sir Humphrey's fault.
You say fault, many would say credit. I know I would, good work @Sir Humphrey .

Further reading: page 167 basically murders the US economy for the next few decades. The mob has near total control over inner cities, transport unions, alcohol manufacturing and distribution. Corruption is rife everywhere, the states utterly despise one another and lobby incessantly, blocking Washington a lot, a Washington that really doesn't want to confront their own issues. What with all this and loads of firms, including the gigantic Ford, banking most of their futures on credit from republican Spain, there is a massive crash coming. Not sure whether it will come within the timeframe of the AAr, but if not certainly within the next decade. With a smaller one that might become larger when the republic loses the war and no one recognises the debts.
It might have got a bit out of hand there. Still, always time for things to get worse next time we head back there sometime this autumn. That's in-game Autumn, so probably quite a long time in real time.

Edit: having destroyed all foreign competition aside from British dominions, we return to conservative corner and some old fashioned union bashing. In this case, quite justifiably, as the ship building industry essentially isn't, and is completely under the thumb of the riveter unions. They thus freak out when they figure out welding is going to screw them out of absolute power and impose a complete standstill to shipbilding in Britian. During Royal Navy refit and expansion. And the Depression. I can only imagine what Belfast was looking like when that went down.
Surprisingly I think Belfast goes quite well, mainly as they will be one of the first to defect across to the TGWU and go full on welding. H&W were a forward looking yard and the Boilermakers were a weak union in Belfast, the national leadership never wanted to understand the local issues there so never got much traction. Sectarian concerns were always that bit more important than solidarity with fraternal brothers in other yards and Red Clydeside was probably a bit too Catholic for their tastes.


Also Austen C just died, which is sad. The victorians are finally begining to fade away from the establishment, but have done a pretty good job at revitalizing the Empire. Sadly they have not yet revitalized the Grand Old Liberal Party but the possibility remains if we are very fortunate and eat all our vegetables.
It was sad to see Austen C go, but one cannot keep too many people who died alive or things get a bit silly. Besides, Eden got to be Prime Minister. And that's gone so well for everyone hasn't it?

Great to see updates coming again. And as usual, full of obscure but very interesting facts.
That is a lovely comment and one I shall cherish. :D
 
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Everyone just ignore the United Kingdom on the council, made of three kingdoms and four countries, two of which have deep divides within themsevles, one of which is completely unrecognised and one that openly delights in ruling over the other three.

As well as the French Basques who while not French are certainly not anywhere near as uppity as their Iberian counterparts. And countless other exceptions to the idea.
 
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As well as the French Basques who while not French are certainly not anywhere near as uppity as their Iberian counterparts. And countless other exceptions to the idea.

It's fun being in charge of written history. You get to change so much.
 
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As well as the French Basques who while not French are certainly not anywhere near as uppity as their Iberian counterparts. And countless other exceptions to the idea.
The French government, who are the people at the League Council, would very much disagree with you on that. For instance at this time it was official policy at the Department of Education that "for the linguistic unity of France, the Breton language must disappear." and the use of German in Alsace-Lorraine was made illegal.

If I ever do the French Colonialism update, this will come up again. Becoming French ('proper' Parisian French obviously) was seen as the highest state anyone could possibly aspire to, whether Breton, Khmer or Creole. It got watered down a bit post-WW1 when they reluctantly realised several groups very sensibly didn't want to become French, but it was still the ideal. These are not people who are well inclined towards multi-cultural states given how much effort they are putting into stamping it out in France and the French Empire.

It's fun being in charge of written history. You get to change so much.
You also get to remind people that views in the past were different and that projecting modern (or even post-WW2) sensibilities backwards rarely works out well. ;)
 
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You also get to remind people that views in the past were different and that projecting modern (or even post-WW2) sensibilities backwards rarely works out well. ;)

Yeah yeah, Dr Monmouth 101 from his own introduction.

Historians from the 80s loved bias and projection, cos they thought by saying it, they wouldn't do it. Moral philosophy moved on since then to a more 'obviously this is wrong, was wrong then and should be said as such, but this is how people thought and imagined the world to be in this period/culture etc'.

Which is still debatable but at least a little useful.
 
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The French government, who are the people at the League Council, would very much disagree with you on that. For instance at this time it was official policy at the Department of Education that "for the linguistic unity of France, the Breton language must disappear." and the use of German in Alsace-Lorraine was made illegal.

If I ever do the French Colonialism update, this will come up again. Becoming French ('proper' Parisian French obviously) was seen as the highest state anyone could possibly aspire to, whether Breton, Khmer or Creole. It got watered down a bit post-WW1 when they reluctantly realised several groups very sensibly didn't want to become French, but it was still the ideal. These are not people who are well inclined towards multi-cultural states given how much effort they are putting into stamping it out in France and the French Empire.

While I have succumbed to the occasional bout of irrational Francophilia. I have, no love for the French cultural policy.
 
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Me as a child, reading that France considered it's overseas holdings to just be parts of France: Oh yay equality!

Me years later learning exactly what that meant for anyone who wasn't "French" enough: oooh nooo....
 
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Historians from the 80s loved bias and projection, cos they thought by saying it, they wouldn't do it. Moral philosophy moved on since then to a more 'obviously this is wrong, was wrong then and should be said as such, but this is how people thought and imagined the world to be in this period/culture etc'.

Which is still debatable but at least a little useful.
I confess I cannot see how that is debatable, people so obviously thought differently in the past with very different values and priorities. If you don't account for that you will not really understand why things happened and keep getting things wrong. How you account for that I accept can be tricky and just saying "I don't understand decision x so it must be due to different world view back then' is a bit lazy and wrong in a different way, but in no way undermines the main point.

I know Moral philosophers have got to justify themselves somehow, so do try to produce these gratuitously pointless debates, but that is no reason to indulge them - it only encourages them and that is the last thing you should do.

While I have succumbed to the occasional bout of irrational Francophilia. I have, no love for the French cultural policy.
At least you know it is irrational. That's a start, we can build on that. ;)

Me as a child, reading that France considered it's overseas holdings to just be parts of France: Oh yay equality!

Me years later learning exactly what that meant for anyone who wasn't "French" enough: oooh nooo....
Personally I blame the Belgians, or I suppose more technically King Leopold II. The Belgian Congo was so utterly horrific that everyone else could feel a sense of smug superiority about their actions in their own colonies, because they weren't as bad as the Congo.

Probably wouldn't have changed that much in practical terms, but would have stopped the worst of the smug moralising and that is no small victory.


In writing news my battles with the game continue, once more can I see the attraction in just giving in and shuffling across to HOI3. Maybe even heavily modded HOI3. Or just abandoning the game completely and freestyling it, yet I do feel the need for some sort of game under all this for probities sake. And I will still need a result generating engine when the war kicks off. Something will emerge in due course.
 
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In writing news my battles with the game continue, once more can I see the attraction in just giving in and shuffling across to HOI3. Maybe even heavily modded HOI3. Or just abandoning the game completely and freestyling it, yet I do feel the need for some sort of game under all this for probities sake. And I will still need a result generating engine when the war kicks off. Something will emerge in due course.

Good luck.

When I was last writing years ago...I gave up on attempting to get the game to do what was necessary and just resorted to determining it all in my head.

But mine was much less dependent on in game results than this will be.
 
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P. 148 incidentally is when El Pip first responds to the idea of a tractor update. It's Sir Humphrey's fault.

Speaking of @Sir Humphrey. Is he still with us? I was about to start the series from the top again and noticed that the very second comment was him agitating for SuperMac. So presumably he was rather pleased with that.
 
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In writing news my battles with the game continue, once more can I see the attraction in just giving in and shuffling across to HOI3. Maybe even heavily modded HOI3. Or just abandoning the game completely and freestyling it, yet I do feel the need for some sort of game under all this for probities sake. And I will still need a result generating engine when the war kicks off. Something will emerge in due course.

If I may offer my unsolicited opinion on the matter. I preface this by saying that I have never played HOI2, and could never quite get into HOI3 (despite numerous efforts). I then finally got into the series with HOI4 and fell deeply in love with the game. Despite this, I'm not sure I can recommend HOI4 for a veteran such as yourself. Or for a project of such magnitude. As I look at AAR's from earlier HOI's I cannot help but feel... Jealous. HOI4 has progressed enourmously since launch I will admit. But I would recommend avoiding it, for now. Particularly since the focus system, while excellent as a gameplay mechanic. Would probably mess with the story quite a bit. (quite in the American sense) And if you were to mess with HOI4 I would have to strongly recommend player control of all the majors. The AI is absolutely abysmal and without a doubt the weakest link in HOI4's chain.
 
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If I may offer my unsolicited opinion on the matter. I preface this by saying that I have never played HOI2, and could never quite get into HOI3 (despite numerous efforts). I then finally got into the series with HOI4 and fell deeply in love with the game. Despite this, I'm not sure I can recommend HOI4 for a veteran such as yourself. Or for a project of such magnitude. As I look at AAR's from earlier HOI's I cannot help but feel... Jealous. HOI4 has progressed enourmously since launch I will admit. But I would recommend avoiding it, for now. Particularly since the focus system, while excellent as a gameplay mechanic. Would probably mess with the story quite a bit. (quite in the American sense) And if you were to mess with HOI4 I would have to strongly recommend player control of all the majors. The AI is absolutely abysmal and without a doubt the weakest link in HOI4's chain.

Pippy! There is a lot of truth in this quotation and I agree with a great deal of it. After the death of my laptop in late 2010, I just couldn't face running a HOI2 AAR from scratch and amidst the clamour for HOI3. HOI3 is amazing from a writer's POV - IF you are willing to keep to (more or less) a historical take on things. The faction system, without a mod, "bakes in" that Germany, USSR and the UK will be faction leaders and stick to OTL ideologies. The OOB and the complexity of C2 is something to salivate over.

HOI4 is a different beast altogether. I hate almost everything to do with fighting on land (not division design, which is wonderful) and the lack of a wide pool of generals would frustrate you (Montgomery fixed as a Field Marshal! In 1936!). But...

Industry is incredible - as an example, 'Lend Lease' is not an abstract "here take ten IC" but you can specify what to send. The focus system can skew things, particularly if/when the AI goes mad.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
 
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I am also astonished that the HOI2 and 3 AAR areas are in better shape than HOI4...
 
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