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Mmmmm....

I wouldn't exactly compare 1.06 + SoI to HttT or DW. Those had super drastic changes like an updated map, CBs, nations, decisions, ect. ect. on a much larger scale than that of CK2.

But also take into consideration that HttT and DW (probably) took a significantly longer time to develop than either 1.06 or SoI, so I guess it evens out/is proportional.
It was also more expensive. DW and HttT are like two DLC expansions in price, but not necessarily in content.
 
If that is indeed also the OP's concern then i would like to offer my opinion. I think that while SoI+Patch indeed seems a little smaller we have to remember that Paradox has already planned 4 of this kind of DLC. It is true that core gameplay upgrades can only be part of the free patch parts of those DLCs.

But the 4 free patch parts combined could enable a "renewal" like that even if the individual ones dont.

And the nice thing is that it will be completely free for everyone.
I'll admit that I do like the "renewal" aspect of smaller DLC-type expansions. But paying $10 for each one doesn't feel worth it. $5 for a DLC-type - absolutely. $20 for a "full" expansion that has the content of 3 DLC-type expansions - absolutely.
 
In a way, that is exactly what I want. It sounds crazy, and perhaps it is, but that way I know it will do what it says on the tin - as opposed to looking at a DLC and having to say "Oh, it only has some of the features I wanna pay for, but the free download doesn't have other stuff that the DLC does have." I'd rather get it all in one whack.
I just don't understand, why would you say no to free content crafted with care?
 
I'll admit that I do like the "renewal" aspect of smaller DLC-type expansions. But paying $10 for each one doesn't feel worth it. $5 for a DLC-type - absolutely. $20 for a "full" expansion that has the content of 3 DLC-type expansions - absolutely.

I think the way to look at it is that you will get the renewal with the free patches anyway and you are then free to support the development of that free content by buying 1 or more of the cosmetic DLCs.

But I admit that i am a completionist too and will probably buy all of the DLCs. Happily though :).
 
I just don't understand, why would you say no to free content crafted with care?
If the patch came out separately from the DLC-type expansion, I wouldn't say no.

SoI only looks like it isn't worth the money because it is paired with 1.06. It makes SoI look small and not worth it to consider them separately.
 
If the patch came out separately from the DLC-type expansion, I wouldn't say no.

SoI only looks like it isn't worth the money because it is paired with 1.06. It makes it look small and incomplete to consider them separately.
I get that, but I don't understand why you can't look at it as a whole? I mean, the way I see it, they basically gave people part of the DLC free and allow you to pay to have the additional features. That enhances your game play even if you don't pay, and allow you to get some extra features. I don't see the problem.
 
I think the way to look at it is that you will get the renewal with the free patches anyway and you are then free to support the development of that free content by buying 1 or more of the cosmetic DLCs.

But I admit that i am a completionist too and will probably buy all of the DLCs. Happily though :).
I'm sure PDox appreciates that. I don't focus much on the way the units look - so most DLCs don't mean much to me. I do want to play as muslim rulers, so I will probably buy SoI. I'm just saying that I would like future expansions to be "full" expansions, not piecemeal DLC-expansions which I feel are a bit overpriced. Lower the price on DLC-type expansions and I might just buy them all (for completeness' sake, like you :D)
 
I get that, but I don't understand why you can't look at it as a whole? I mean, the way I see it, they basically gave people part of the DLC free and allow you to pay to have the additional features. That enhances your game play even if you don't pay, and allow you to get some extra features. I don't see the problem.
Because part of it was free, the other part was overpriced. No tinfoil needed :)
 
I get that, but I don't understand why you can't look at it as a whole? I mean, the way I see it, they basically gave people part of the DLC free and allow you to pay to have the additional features. That enhances your game play even if you don't pay, and allow you to get some extra features. I don't see the problem.

So a minority paid for the majority. People who didn't pay got most of the content from the release, and the people who did only got a little extra for a large investment. I want expansions to be worth my buck.
 
Because part of it was free, the other part was overpriced.
You do realize these two facts cancel themselves, right? I do understand your point, but for me I feel grateful that paradox gave free stuff and I'm okay with giving them 10 bucks for an extra feature. It's kinda like a "demo", since I like the stuff they added, I buy it to have the complete experience.
 
Yeah and I'm all for socialism. Especially if you're not forced to pay for the DLC.
Well I didn't want to bring it up because I didn't want to be ridiculed, but I certainly am against socialism and this is what it feels like. I don't like having to pay for other peoples content.
 
You do realize these two facts cancel themselves, right?
Almost, but not quite. If I get an orange and an apple for $2, nice. But paying $3 for an apple with a free orange thrown in is not worth it.

I do understand your point, but for me I feel grateful that paradox gave free stuff and I'm okay with giving them 10 bucks for an extra feature. It's kinda like a "demo", since I like the stuff they added, I buy it to have the complete experience.
I appreciate the free stuff too! I think, though, that my point has been missed. I'm very likely to buy SOI... I just don't want to do it in the future for something that feels overpriced and under-content.
 
You are being sarcastic and unhelpful again.

Again, not intended towards you or your viewpoint. Most of my ire is directed at people that tried to -very rudely- force their opinion down the throats of the masses. My sincere apologies if you are offended. <3s for all.

Back on topic, however -- while this business model is better for the consumer base, in the sense that they basically got half of the expansion for free, it also creates the aforementioned issue of making the paid portion look -really tiny.- I wonder if Paradox will continue this?
 
I don't like having to pay for other peoples content.
I can respect that, but you're not forced to pay for it, Paradox thought of this system because they have a "loyal" fanbase, that would gladly buy additional content. This way the people not already pro-paradox get free content and are more likely to respect paradox as a company. That's more or less their goal I think.
 
The way I see this whole SoI being shallow/small compared to 1.06 patch is SoI is just a way to fund all of those features in 1.06. They are together one expansion/dlc/thing. You can choose to fund this "free stuff" and get to play as the muslims.

Call me a fanboy if you want, but I can't see any flaws with this DLC policy. At least its much better than some other DLC policy on the market, BUT im ok with people having civil discussions about this thing. It has proven that some companys have made terrible decisions when it comes to DLC.
 
So a minority paid for the majority. People who didn't pay got most of the content from the release, and the people who did only got a little extra for a large investment. I want expansions to be worth my buck.

Well, Paradox is a swedish company... so we would expect them to be socialists :).

Seriously though, I understand your point but i guess its a little bit irrational, too. I mean you could always just enjoy the free part then which will have an unbeatable worth-for-buck ratio anyways.
 
The way I see this whole SoI being shallow/small compared to 1.06 patch is SoI is just a way to fund all of those features in 1.06. They are together one expansion/dlc/thing. You can choose to fund this "free stuff" and get to play as the muslims.

Call me a fanboy if you want, but I can't see any flaws with this DLC policy. At least its much better than some other DLC policy on the market, BUT im ok with people having civil discussions about this thing. It has proven that some companys have made terrible decisions when it comes to DLC.
Exactly my point, thanks for being clearer than me perhaps.