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MrTaxman said:
But by paying $10, you're telling PDox to go ahead and keep the price of DLC expansions high... which I don't want to do.
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But since I'm personally okay with that, and that you still have the option not to buy it and get content anyway, I will not have hard time sleeping tonight.

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MrTaxman said:
In the USA socialism has been preached as "wrong" since World War II. I have been a history teacher, and so I saw the damage that such "teaching" did to our country. No political idea is inherently wrong or bad. Misguided, perhaps, but not wrong. It was practically illegal to be socialist in the USA for many years - in a country that values *Freedom* for crying out loud!
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Don't worry I knew that (I had the chance of spending time in the USA as an exchange student) and it is one of the reason I didn't take it too bad but still.
 
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Pelarys said:
But since I'm personally okay with that, and that you still have the option not to buy it and get content anyway, I will not have hard time sleeping tonight.
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I'm not implying you should have any problems with it. I want Paradox to have a problem with it (the reason I started this thread). :D
 
Pelarys said:
You can't get everyone to pay for content
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Then they shouldn't get it
Pelarys said:
this new content is a way of getting them back into the game and potentially buy the new expansion.
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I shouldn't have to pay for it to get my own content.

Also incidentally, Obama has been putting in socialist policies for his duration and we now have more debt than all our previous debts combined.
 
zedyue said:
Also incidentally, Obama has been putting in socialist policies for his duration and we now have more debt than all our previous debts combined.
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Bringing up the US president and his policies you agree/don't agree with is not going to further this discussion.
 
zedyue said:
Then they shouldn't get it
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My point is that NO ONE would get it since Paradox wouldn't perceive the interest in CK2. That's not completely true since CK2 is popular enough, but for any other PI games this system is a way of basically keeping the game alive and in the case of CK2 it will allow for far more additional content.
 
Pelarys said:
My point is that NO ONE would get it since Paradox wouldn't perceive the interest in CK2. That's not true since CK2 is popular enough, but for any other PI games this system is a way of basically keeping the game alive.
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Perhaps it would work better if the game was dying, I think the traditional model would work better for a game in high demand and alive and well.
 
Pelarys said:
I bring it up because you basically said our gouvernement and our way of doing thing was bad. I didn't mean to bring politic in this thread and I apologize.
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And I countered with an example of a socialist government gone wrong (ours), and I'm sorry also since it is off topic and I'll stop with it.
 
zedyue said:
Perhaps it would work better if the game was dying, I think the traditional model would work better for a game in high demand and alive and well.
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That brings an interesting thought (if tangential) to mind - does the "new" DLC expansion style mean more games (A), or does it just keep old games alive longer?

(A) - Greater incentive for companies to crank out more games?
 
zedyue said:
And I countered with an example of a socialist government gone wrong (ours), and I'm sorry also since it is off topic and I'll stop with it.
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I just pointed out that I felt insulted, and I thought you would understand that I did not like you calling our government evil, but apparently you didn't get it and persisted in trying to prove that the valor I believe in are bad. I don't think I did that and apologize if you felt threatened.
 
MrTaxman said:
That brings an interesting thought (if tangential) to mind - does the "new" DLC expansion style mean more games, or does it just keep old games alive longer?
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Well if you think of MMO's they get people back by giving out free content in the hopes people buy more content. I think it works well for people who have played but are not currently playing. Current players were already playing and are no more likely to buy stuff than they already were in the first place. I think the DLC model would work better on EU3 or another old and released game than a currently released game. I feel they should do something along the lines of release one or three LARGE expansions, then months later when the user-base is down, start doing this business model in order to RE-INVIGORATE.

Pelarys said:
I just pointed out that I felt insulted, and I thought you would understand that I did not like you calling our government evil, but apparently you didn't get it and persisted in trying to prove that the valor I believe in are bad. I don't think I did that and apologize if you felt threatened.
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Again sorry I never said evil, I mean it as more of a 'incorrect idea' and I do stand by that.
 
Pelarys said:
I just pointed that you were insulting, and I thought you would understand that I did not like you calling our government evil, but apparently you didn't get it and persisted in trying to prove that the valor I believe in are bad.
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I'm not sure he meant his last comment as insulting, even though it could be perceived that way.
 
zedyue said:
I feel they should do something along the lines of relese one or three LARGE expansions, then months later when the userbase is down, start doing this business model in order to RE-INVIGORATE.
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That sounds a bit more like what I would like.

I wonder, just out of morbid curiosity, if any moderators are actually reading this.
 
MrTaxman said:
That sounds a bit more like what I would like.

I wonder, just out of morbid curiosity, if any moderators are actually reading this.
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I hope so! I feel like this is a revolutionary idea since earlier I was so against the DLC model but it seems like it does have a place, just near the end of a game's lifecycle.
 
Pelarys said:
Yeah I edited my message just before you posted. I always realize what I should have said after posting, in France we call that "L'esprit de l'escalier".
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I'm glad we're all trying to be civil. This is so much improved from that last Thread-That-Shall-Remain-Nameless :D
 
zedyue said:
I hope so! I feel like this is a revolutionary idea since earlier I was so against the DLC model but it seems like it does have a place, just near the end of a game's lifecycle.
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Release a few (1-3) "Full" expansions, then after a good while, release some smaller DLC expansions - did I understand you correctly?
 
MrTaxman said:
Release a few (1-3) "Full" expansions, then after a good while, release some smaller DLC expansions - did I understand you correctly?
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Yep, again raising the EU3 example, HttT and DW would be full expansions, but they could start doing this kind of 'free but pay for more' dlc release if they wanted to reinvigorate the userbase. And doing it could also get people to self-advertise to friends and would help sell more of the base game.
 
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