YodaMaster said:
agree
now ...france
limousin to mountains
vendee to marsh
berry to marsh
lorraine to forest
niversais to forest
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agree
now ...france
limousin to mountains
vendee to marsh
berry to marsh
lorraine to forest
niversais to forest
marsh was my first thought too.Toio said:
I agree for all of them but not Limousin. With the new map, you can see Limousin province is bigger than vanilla map one and more to the east where mountains are located. With vanilla map, better keep forests.Toio said:
EDIT: Lorraine is already forests.
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Anybody know why Mombasa is spices? I'd think ivory or slaves would be more appropriate. Edit: Slaves I think.
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Zimbabwean gold
Just finished Early Gold Mining on the Zimbabwean Plateau and it conveniently maps gold mines for the game's period. The gold is further east than I'd expected, running along the central Zimbabwean Plateau from NE to SW. The mines are scattered throughout this area, with no notable center.
In game terms this means that Sofala (1508), Rowzi (1510) and Nembire (1511) need to be changed to gold and Zimbabwe (1509) to slaves. To prevent changes to the game balance I plan to keep the total of 75 gold unchanged. Conveniently this means that each of the three provinces can have 25 gold.
This means that some adjustments are necessary in this event:
I think that the gold was going to decrease regardless of which choice the Zimbabwean player would make. I also increased the total loss from 20 as the Portuguese struggled to get much gold out of the country.
Just finished Early Gold Mining on the Zimbabwean Plateau and it conveniently maps gold mines for the game's period. The gold is further east than I'd expected, running along the central Zimbabwean Plateau from NE to SW. The mines are scattered throughout this area, with no notable center.
In game terms this means that Sofala (1508), Rowzi (1510) and Nembire (1511) need to be changed to gold and Zimbabwe (1509) to slaves. To prevent changes to the game balance I plan to keep the total of 75 gold unchanged. Conveniently this means that each of the three provinces can have 25 gold.
This means that some adjustments are necessary in this event:
Code:
#(1500-1550) The Mwenemutapa Empire
event = {
id = 335004
trigger = { neighbour = POR }
random = no
country = ZIM
name = "EVENTNAME335004" #The Mwenemutapa Empire
desc = "EVENTHIST335004"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1500 }
offset = 1000
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1550 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME335004A" #Zimbabwe gradually fades away
command = { type = capital which = 1511 } #Nembire
[COLOR=YellowGreen]command = { type = mine which = 1511 value = -15 } #Nembire
command = { type = mine which = 1508 value = -15 } #Sofala[/COLOR]
command = { type = population which = 1511 value = 2000 } #Nembire
command = { type = provincetax which = 1511 value = 1 } #Nembire
command = { type = population which = 1509 value = -2000 } #Zimbabwe
command = { type = provincetax which = 1509 value = -1 } #Zimbabwe
command = { type = relation which = POR value = 50 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME335004B" #Take back our lost territories by force
[COLOR=YellowGreen]command = { type = mine which = 1511 value = -15 } #Nembire
command = { type = mine which = 1508 value = -15 } #Sofala [/COLOR]
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 15 }
command = { type = population which = -2 value = 2000 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = 1 }
command = { type = trade value = 500 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = -50 }
}
}sturmvogel said:
it should remain spices as the area historically was called the pepper coast
Huh? Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_Coast. The Pepper Coast is Casamance in game terms.Toio said:
Then give me an example of spices that it exported. Zanzibar's cloves, etc are all late- or post-game. I got nothing that Mombasa grew as even coffee is post-game.
sturmvogel said:
i was just reading a book and the portuguese author wrote it as pepper coast, ..........below is an extract of what we can use for goods
East African Coast at the beginning of the sixteenth
century by Duarte Barbosa:
'There is a beautiful city of the Moors (Swahili), called Bombaze
(Mombasa), very large and beautiful, and built on high and hand ome
houses of stone and whitewash and with very good streets, in the
manner of those in Quiboa. And it also has a king over it. The people
are of dusky white and brown complexion, and likewise, the women, who
are much adorned with silk and gold stuffs. It is a town of great
trade in goods, and has a good port, where there are many ships, both
of those who come from Cambray and Melinde, and others which sail to
the islands of Zanzibar, Manfia and Pemba. This Mombasa is a country
well supplied with plenty of provisions, very fine sheep, which have
round tails and many cows, chickens and very large goats, much rice
and millet, and plenty of oranges, sweet and bitter, and lemons
cedrats, pomegranates, Indian figs and all sorts of vegetables, and
very good water. The inhabitants are at war with people of the
continent and at other times at peace, and trade with them and receive
much honey and wax, and ivory'."
maybe sheep for mombasa or grain
also we can use as the city name Bombaze ( as per article)
Unfortunately food production was declining in East Africa pretty much during the entire game. Mombasa and Pate are fighting over food from Pemba by the late 1600s. So I'm still inclined to go with slaves.
Yes, think to the most representative for the entire timeframe. If only we had a command for Goods change in provinces...
We can only hope that Paradox's opening of the engine will actually happen and that it will include that.YodaMaster said:
I didn't see it mentioned, but if you've reasoned that Hellas ought to be mountains, the same must apply for Ionia. The terrain in Euboea and the other Aegeans islands are just as rough as Hellas'. Thoughts?
Change 441 Lisboa to salt. The salt pans of Sétubal were large enough to bring merchants from the Hanseatic ports of the Baltic. They were actually south of the Tagus, but I'd prefer to put them in 441 to avoid modifying the Enrique the Navigator event and it still allows the Portuguese to build a FAA in the capital with no sacrifice of manufactories.
ThanatosHelen said:
I didn't see it mentioned, but if you've reasoned that Hellas ought to be mountains, the same must apply for Ionia. The terrain in Euboea and the other Aegeans islands are just as rough as Hellas'. Thoughts?
In the venetian archives Euboea was split in 3 sections , the north and central where mountainous while the south was plains, .....I thought about mountains , but after testing , I found the TUR had a harder time in taking the island, so I left it as plains, .......besides the capital was in the southern area
LOL. Dulkadir (in the current map) is located in the Anti-Taurus and is actually the most elevated region in Anatolia.Garbon said:
"None of them track on to the topographical map provided nor any maps I've seen"
Indeed
But obviously since I've proposed it, it's wrong..
Which province are you talking about?Therion said:
No, this is because we have to take in account topography, abstraction(s) and gameplay.Therion said:
Sivas, but nevermind - it seems the change was implemented in the latest version.YodaMaster said:
Therion said:LOL. Dulkadir (in the current map) is located in the Anti-Taurus and is actually the most elevated region in Anatolia.
"None of them track on to the topographical map provided nor any maps I've seen"
Indeed
Ah one of your several suggested changes. The only one that actually maps on...and yet oddly you called Dulkadir, a country that starts in Aleppo. Is it clear now why I didn't think Aleppo should have its terrain changed?
Therion said:
Is there a reason you're making such a statement?