For god's sake, do I REALLY have to spell it out for you?
What I ment was that if people who voted LUXEMBURGISTS wanted the MARXIST-LENINISTS in a place of power, then they would've voted for them. I'm not talking about any technicalities: no "Luxemburgists are Marxists", or "Everyone's a Marxist" crap. I ment IN-GAME factions, that I refer to by their names or short versions of their names, ie., "Marxists" instead of "Marxist-Leninists".
You'll have to excuse me if I speak in a mocking tone, since you're apparently missing what, at least to me, seems to be incredibly obvious to both myself and keynes. Maybe it's not obvious to you: I'm sorry if it isn't, but it seems painfully so to us.
You're really being rude. Yes, I get that that's what you meant, that's what my first paragraph is and my previous posts are about and; I think that using the terms marxist and marxist-leninists interchangeable is wrong, and I don't think it was clear in your first post that you were referring to only one of the marxist factions; I wanted to point out that the Luxemburgists are marxists too, and that a vast majority of the voters favoured marxists factions rather than the democrats who I percieve as non-marxist, despite their intention to continue marxist economic policies. To explain this, I direct you to these paragraphs in Tommy4ever's post about the coalition:
Tommy4ever said:
The final result of the election left the Assembly in an interesting position. The Luxemburgists were the largest faction with 34 seats, followed by the Marxist-Leninists with 28 whilst the Democrats trailed with 21 to complete the compliment of the major factions. The minor Marxist factions secured 17 between them split 11-6 between the Militarists and Moderates respectively.
Lenin, fearing a part-Democrat government above all else, tried to lure Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht into a pro-Marxist coalition, sweetening the deal with the promise of Moderate support to create a huge coalition controlling 68 seats. Luxemburg would endear herself to the Marxists of the Republic, quench ideas that she was a Right-winger, secure peace between the Left and Right and leave herself with the most dominant government in the Republic’s history. Yet it was not to be. Rosa refused to align herself with a man she and many others associated with oppressive policies against the Right wing factions and instead she looked to Bernstein. The Democrats were only too happy to agree an alliance that secured them power on only their first election.
Now, in my opinion, I firstly do not like the democrats and would've preferred an Luxemburgist-led coalition in alliance with the marxist factions (i.e. not the democrats). However, I knew that this was likely the outcome; I favour the Luxemburgists but voted for the Marxists-Leninists in order to lower the chance of a Luxemburgist-Democrat coalition. Now, what I really don't like is the decision of the Luxemburgists to cave to all of the most exotic ideas of the Democrats, being isolationism, pro-religion (in relative terms) and voting rights for the farmers.
Furthermore, I don't agree with the logic that everyone voting for the Luxemburgists should've known that this meant the Democrats getting through all those demands, and your notion that it was stupid to vote for the Luxemburgists if you oppose the Democrats. I think that most people voting for the Luxemburgists didn't want the Democrat policies I've mentioned; if they did, they could've just as well voted for the Democrats. Now, we can't know if this is true or not, since everyone haven't declared why they voted for whatever they voted. However, this is my interpretation.
Finally, I would like to acknowledge that arguing over the Inernets sure is like competing in the special olympics, as the proverb says. However, I think we should try to understand each other rather than post in a mocking or agressive manner, and I know that I should try this too. It's not always clear what someone means in these kinds of discsussions.
EDIT: Reading your first post on this page, I realize that you were pretty clear regarding the marxist = marxist-leninist part of my arguments.. Sorry about some unnessecary arguing, but I blame having the house full of people over christmas. However, I still don't agree with your points on that people should've expected this outcome when voting Luxemburgist.
