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Daniel A said:
HoG, FAL etc

If I get to understand better how this game works I might be interested after all. I agree with Ozzeh etc that Sundays are after all the best day to play, not least because we can play for 5 hours as we did in FN (17.00-22.00 CET is superb).

FAL made a reference to the DU system, but what is that?

Also, there seem to be some kind of RP element, is that true? Or is there only a necessity to write AARs?
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Daniel,

I am not sure yet what HoG is planning. I think it's only necessary to describe your actions in a small AAR.

The DU system was that each player had to give a score to each other player regarding his Administration, Diplomacy and Military performance, for the previous session.

You should rate each player bearing in mind the limitations of a country. So, it would be a better performance for a player to get rich with Russia than with Portugal for a session.

Each player would give a short summary of the actions he undertook with his country after the session, after which all players rate their co-players. It requires minimal energy this way.
The average score would then be a fair representation of your performance.

The average score after the end of the campaign would then be your final score. It's then crystal clear who 'won' the campaign, who the best economiser was, the best warlord and so on.
It's necessary to be able to win wars, perform well with trade, and have a sound diplomacy to win the game.
Also, you should be able to perform well with each country, which separates the allround players from the specialists who are only good with land powers, for example.

It's a great way to learn to play the various countries for newbies too. DU is quite newbie friendly since they don't have to live with their own results forever, but can try new countries after a certain while. Veterans have to 'repair' some countries now and then, but get rewarded for this in their score too.
 
Daniel A said:
Ah, I seem to remember that, many years ago it must have been. How did the first experience end? Did it work?
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It worked till the GM was accused of giving himself constantly the best countries. After that he quit and the campaign was without a GM. It died soon thereafter. I believe it ended in 1750.
 
LOL, that is indeed a very serious accusation. I can picture a few paranoic people ready to make such an accusation.

But really, how can any nation be "the best"? If we judge people how they perform with different nations from different starting points, then by definition no nation can be easier than any other :confused:

But this was perhaps from the times before Tonios' stat page where most variables can be examined.

PS I'd love to hear who was GM in that game :D
 
Daniel A said:
But really, how can any nation be "the best"? If we judge people how they perform with different nations from different starting points, then by definition no nation can be easier than any other :confused:
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I should have said 'more fun' instead of 'best'. Countries like France, the OE and Austria. (of course, this also depends on your idea of fun, but rest assured no one really wanted Denmark and Poland in that game :D)

BTW, in a DU game gangbangs can happen more frequently. I for one will not feel remorse if I annex a fellow player, since I know he will just get another country after it.

And yes, it was all before Tonio's stats page which makes it far easier to rate each one's performance nowadays.

PS I'd love to hear who was GM in that game :D
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RedPhoenix.
 
HolisticGod said:
So far, I have:

FAL
Balinus
Ozzeh
SMN
Robertus
PJL
Luis

I'd like confirmation all around.

Also, be aware that you are required to develop a character(s) and write AARs for this game. At the very least, you need a Gray Eminence, whatever that may be, and his or her storyline. If that doesn't sound appealing to you, or you're not sure you can swing it, bow out now.
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I'm still interested in playing so I can say that I confirm my participation.
 
FAL said:
Whoa, there are stats of DU? Interesting, I didn't know that (or I forgot it entirely) :D

Owen played two countries even.
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That reminds me... I had some fun recently. I played a nappy with some friends, and since I had two computers at that time I joined twice :D Playing both France and Austria. How fun is that :rofl:
 
Ozzeh said:
That reminds me... I had some fun recently. I played a nappy with some friends, and since I had two computers at that time I joined twice :D Playing both France and Austria. How fun is that :rofl:
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I did that too. I have two pc's as well.

I joined a game with Both Russia and the Ottoman Empire. My Russia was able to vassalise the Ottomans. Big victory!
 
Am I still on the list?
 
@ HG

Sounds interresting I might join, been a long time since I played, but the first game was quite fun back then. I particularly remember me and Robertus fighting hard on the french/austrian border.
 
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:D I know I am all a newbye, but i tend to be an economist (something players would love when they get the nation i would have been ruling)

I am interested in joining... (if it keeps being on sunday or saturday).

Can I, can I? :rolleyes:
 
Ozzeh said:
Correction: YOU would find that interesting :D
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I'm not in the player list, but I would also be curious to see how it would work. See? He's not alone :D

[turns lurker mode back on]
 
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