Deus Vult Improvement Pack - Discussion

unmerged(58901) · Jun 14, 2008

Are BOPACK, SMACK, and the Traits Mod compatible with this?

jordarkelf · Jun 14, 2008

@sniedermeier: Bopack+Smack is. Not sure which Traits mod you mean. If it doesn't touch the scenarios or province/duchy/kingdom setup, it should be.

@unclemestor & Periodigal: Freeze in 1066 scenario confirmed.

I had one extra " sign in the character file... which is why I had not the same problem (I play with More Kingdoms usually, which I hadn't the problem in).

Uploaded fixed version. Thanks for reporting!

unclemestor · Jun 14, 2008

jordarkelf said:
@sniedermeier: Bopack+Smack is. Not sure which Traits mod you mean. If it doesn't touch the scenarios or province/duchy/kingdom setup, it should be.

@unclemestor & Periodigal: Freeze in 1066 scenario confirmed.

I had one extra " sign in the character file... which is why I had not the same problem (I play with More Kingdoms usually, which I hadn't the problem in).

Uploading fixed version now.

awesome, thanks for the prompt fix! I'm excited to check out DVIP

aylo1 · Jun 15, 2008

Djakeli Revised

Tracked down some info on this dynasty & adjusted it accordingly. PS It'll be safer to replace all I done on my last post with this one as I think I may've renumbered some of the ids..

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 66750 }
	name = "Beka" #I 
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 42 }
	country = DGEO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Georgian
	birthdate = { year = 1250 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1306 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "37185813128523"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		gregarious = yes
		proud = yes
		fortune_builder = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 66751 }
	name = "Djiadjak" #Wed Alexios II of Trebizond
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 42 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 66750 } #Beka I Djakeli
	country = TREB
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Georgian
	birthdate = { year = 1283 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1321 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "01080018136605"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		lustful = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 66752 }
	name = "Sargis" #II
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 42 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 66750 } #Beka I Djakeli
	country = DGEO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Georgian
	birthdate = { year = 1280 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1334 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "01080018136605"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		deceitful = yes
		rebellious = yes
		amateurish_pettifogger = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 66753 }
	name = "Qvarqvare" #II OR Kvarkvare
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 42 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 66752 }
	country = DGEO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Georgian
	score = { gold = 25 prestige = 250 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1302 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "01000810146610"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		pragmatic = yes
		reckless = yes
		martial_cleric = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 66754 }
	name = "Sindukhtar" #Wed Davit IX of Georgia
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 42 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 66753 }
	country = DGEO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Georgian
	birthdate = { year = 1329 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "03040409081701"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 66755 }
	name = "Beka" #II
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 42 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 66753 }
	country = DGEO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Georgian
	birthdate = { year = 1331 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "07040005116609"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		martial_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 66756 }
	name = "Gulkan" #Wed Bagrat 'Mtsire' of Imereti
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 42 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 66753 }
	country = DGEO
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Georgian
	birthdate = { year = 1334 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "07020404091708"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 5
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		ecclesiastical_education = yes
	}
}

#Linked Natela to rest of Djakeli family (created by me) & changed her birthdate, so she's not two years younger than her dad.

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 66502 }
	name = "Natela"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 42 }[COLOR=Yellow]
	father = { type = 10 id = 66750 } #Beka I Djakeli[/COLOR]
	country = GEOR
	religion = Orthodox
	culture = Georgian[COLOR=Yellow]
	birthdate = { year = 1265 month = january day = 1 } #1252[/COLOR]
	dna = "44120491201799"
	attributes = {
		martial = 6
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 5
		health = 4
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		selfish = yes
		martial_cleric = yes
	}
}

#To 1337_scenario_countries

Code:

country = { 
	tag = GEOR
	form_of_goverment = feudal
	capital = 676
	ruler = {
		startdate = { year = 1337 month = january day = 1 }
		character = { type = 10 id = 66500 }
	}
	controlledprovinces = {
		676 [COLOR=Yellow]679[/COLOR]
	}
	laws = {
		salic_gavelkind_law = yes
		traditional_custom_law = yes
		regal_supremacy = yes
	}
}
country = { 
	tag = DGEO
	form_of_goverment = feudal
	capital = [COLOR=Yellow]677[/COLOR]
	ruler = {
		startdate = { year = 1337 month = january day = 1 }
		character = { type = 10 id = [COLOR=Yellow]66753[/COLOR] }
	}
	controlledprovinces = {
		[COLOR=Yellow]677[/COLOR]
	}
}

#To 1337_scenario_titles

Code:

title = { 
	tag = C677
	tier = county
	liege = DGEO
	holder = { character = { type = 10 id = [COLOR=Yellow]66753[/COLOR] } startdate = { year = 1337 month = january day = 0 } }
}
title = { 
	tag = C679
	tier = county
	liege = GEOR
	holder = { character = { type = 10 id = [COLOR=Yellow]66500[/COLOR] } startdate = { year = 1337 month = january day = 0 } }
}
title = { 
	tag = DGEO
	tier = duchy
	liege = GEOR
	holder = { character = { type = 10 id = [COLOR=Yellow]66753[/COLOR] } startdate = { year = 1337 month = january day = 0 } }
}

aylo1 · Jun 15, 2008

Treb 1337

#PS-Nobility & Adil Beg ibn Yakub Kandari still to come when I have to time to research & script them.

#Gave Eirene Palaiologina 'bastard' trait & removed 'honest' & 'lustful'

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65514 }
	name = "Eirene" #I
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 48 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 65500 } #Andronikos III
	country = TREB
	religion = Orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1320 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "31503202270207"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 6
		stewardship = 4
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {[COLOR=Yellow]
		bastard = yes
		selfish = yes
		valorous = yes
		flamboyant_schemer = yes[/COLOR][COLOR=Red]
		lustful = yes
		honest = yes[/COLOR]
	}
}

#Changed 'Basilisos Rubenid' to 'Basileios Komnenos'

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65800 }[COLOR=Yellow]
	name = "Basileios"
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 171 } #190 [/COLOR]
	country = TREB
	religion = Orthodox
	culture = Greek
	score = { gold = 100 prestige = 250 piety = 100 }
	birthdate = { year = 1310 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "94829009421402"
	attributes = {
		martial = 8
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 8
		stewardship = 5
		health = 8
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		chaste = yes
		proud = yes
		naive_wirepuller = yes
	}
}

#Gave Alexios his actual mum (Eirene of Trebizond) & dynasty (Komnenos not Rubenid)

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65801 }
	name = "Alexios"
	gender = male[COLOR=Yellow]
	dynasty = { type = 12 id = 171 } #190 
	father = { type = 10 id = 65800 }
	mother = { type = 10 id = 65802 } #Eirene of Trebizond[/COLOR]
	country = TREB
	religion = Orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1336 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "30037423510901"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 5
		health = 7
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
	}
}

#Basileio's mistress\2nd wife Eirene of Trebizond.

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65802 } 
	name = "Eirene" #of Trebizond
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =1 }
	country = TREB
	religion = Orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1314 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "07006106011611"
	attributes = {
		martial = 5
		diplomacy = 3
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 5
		health = 4
		fertility = 7
	}
	traits = {
		lustful = yes
		suspicious = yes
		naive_wirepuller = yes
	}
}

#Basileios's daughters with Eirene of Trebizond - Maria & Theodora.

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65803 }
	name = "Maria"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =171 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 65800 } #Basileios Komnenos
	mother = { type = 10 id = 65802 } #Eirene of Trebizond
	country = TREB
	religion = Orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1328 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "30037423510901"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 5
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 4
		health = 9
		fertility = 6
	}
	traits = {
		ecclesiastical_education = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65804 }
	name = "Theodora"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =171 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 65800 } #Basileios Komnenos
	mother = { type = 10 id = 65802 } #Eirene of Trebizond
	country = TREB
	religion = Orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1332 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "30037423510901"
	attributes = {
		martial = 3
		diplomacy = 6
		intrigue = 5
		stewardship = 4
		health = 5
		fertility = 5
	}
	traits = {
		court_education = yes
	}
}

#Basileios's grandparents Ioannes II Komenos & Eirene Palaiologina, uncle Mikhael aunt Anna Akropolites & their son Ioannes (III)

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65805 } 
	name = "Ioannes" #II
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =171 }
	country = TREB
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1262 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1297 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "71282711021807"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 4
		health = 4
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		modest = yes
		sceptical = yes
		wise = yes
		grey_eminence = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65806 }
	name = "Eirene"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =48 }
	#father = { type = 10 id = 65527 } #Mikhael VIII
	#mother = { type = 10 id = 65528 } #Theodora Batatzes
	country = TREB
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1264 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1302 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "75482110387847"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 4
		health = 4
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		chaste = yes
		proud = yes
		charismatic_negotiator = yes 
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65807 } 
	name = "Mikhael" #I
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =171 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 65805 } #Ioannes II
	mother = { type = 10 id = 65806 } #Eirene Palaiologina
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1285 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "04023606124610"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 4
		health = 4
		fertility = 0
	}
	traits = {
		arbitrary = yes
		trusting = yes
		detached_priest = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65808 } 
	name = "Anna"
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =101063 } #Akropolites
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = greek
	birthdate = { year = 1304 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "66804137454138"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 4
		health = 4
		fertility = 1
	}
	traits = {
		indulgent = yes
		proven_accountant = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65809 } 
	name = "Ioannes" #III
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =171 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 65807 } #Mikhael I
	mother = { type = 10 id = 65808 } #Anna Akropolites
	country = BYZA
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1322 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "08003602134601"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 4
		health = 4
		fertility = 0
	}
	traits = {
		indulgent = yes
		trusting = yes
		court_education = yes
	}
}

#Basileios's parents Alexios II & Djiadjak Djakeli (66751), sisters' Anna Anachutlu who ruled (ca 1341-2) & Eudokia who wed Tadjeddin (Emir of Sinope) or Adil Beg ibn Yakub of Candar.

Code:

character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65810 } 
	name = "Alexios" #II
	gender = male
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =171 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 65805 } #Ioannes II
	mother = { type = 10 id = 65806 } #Eirene Palaiologina
	country = TREB
	religion = orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1282 month = january day = 1 }
	deathdate = { year = 1330 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "08049011421405"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 4
		health = 4
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		energetic = yes
		valorous = yes
		wise = yes
		midas_touched = yes 
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65811 }
	name = "Anna Anachutlu" #I
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =171 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 65810 } #Alexios II
	mother = { type = 10 id = 66751 } #Djiadjak Djakeli
	country = TREB
	religion = Orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1312 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "03253528115809"
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 4
		health = 4
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		trusting = yes
		detached_priest = yes
	}
}
character = {
	id = { type = 10 id = 65812 }
	name = "Eudokia" #Wed Adil Beg ibn Yakub of Candar?
	gender = female
	dynasty = { type = 12 id =171 }
	father = { type = 10 id = 65810 } #Alexios II
	mother = { type = 10 id = 66751 } #Djiadjak Djakeli
	country = TREB #CAND
	religion = Orthodox
	culture = Greek
	birthdate = { year = 1316 month = january day = 1 }
	dna = "04043503035808" 
	attributes = {
		martial = 4
		diplomacy = 4
		intrigue = 4
		stewardship = 4
		health = 4
		fertility = 4
	}
	traits = {
		generous = yes
		naive_wirepuller = yes 
	}
}

#Relations 1337

Code:

	marrige = { #Basileios I Komnenos & Eirene Palaiologina (Andronikos III)
		primary = { type = 10 id = 65800 }
		secondary = { type = 10 id = 65514 }
		startdate = { year = 1335 month = january day = 1 }
	}
	marrige = { #Basileios I Komnenos & Eirene (of Trebizond)
		primary = { type = 10 id = 65800 }
		secondary = { type = 10 id = 65802 }
		startdate = { year = 1337 month = january day = 1 } 
	}
	marrige = { #Ioannes II Komnenos & Eirene Palaiologos (Mikhael VIII)
		primary = { type = 10 id = 65805 }
		secondary = { type = 10 id = 65806 }
		startdate = { year = 1282 month = january day = 1 }
		enddate = { year = 1297 month = january day = 1 }
	}
	marrige = { #Mikhael I Komnenos & Anna Akropolites
		primary = { type = 10 id = 65807 }
		secondary = { type = 10 id = 65808 }
		startdate = { year = 1320 month = january day = 1 }
	}
	marrige = { #Alexios II Komnenos & Djiadjak Djakeli
		primary = { type = 10 id = 65810 }
		secondary = { type = 10 id = 66751 }
		startdate = { year = 1300 month = january day = 1 }
		enddate = { year = 1321 month = january day = 1 }
	}

unmerged(52706) · Jun 15, 2008

Aylo1, you cought up on me.

I think that the coa of Kingdom of Trebizond also must be changed.
Look at my posts here:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8486430#post8486430

unmerged(52706) · Jun 15, 2008

Aylo1, may I ask you where (in which sources) have you found this Andronikos/David Raoul-Rallis, son of Maria Komnene and Ioannes Rogerios Dalassenos?

phillosopher · Jun 19, 2008

I see people talk about these extra mods BOPACK and SMACK but can't find them. Are they just extra/better events? and if so can some one point me too them.

jordarkelf · Jun 19, 2008

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212143

An update is planned, if I can ever get my lazy ass in gear for it.

Drachenfire · Jun 20, 2008

jordarkelf said:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212143

An update is planned, if I can ever get my lazy ass in gear for it.

*Cracks the whip!*

aylo1 · Jun 21, 2008

Durante said:
Aylo1, may I ask you where (in which sources) have you found this Andronikos/David Raoul-Rallis, son of Maria Komnene and Ioannes Rogerios Dalassenos?

Mostly here, I think. But you can always find scraps of info from other dynasties in sites like this

unmerged(52706) · Jun 21, 2008

aylo1 said:
Mostly here, I think. But you can always find scraps of info from other dynasties in sites like this

Well, I had already noticed these sites, but in fact I asked about the sources where this Andronikos/David was mentioned as governor of whatever the ck-province of Methone represents.
Anyway, I think that this dynasty name Raoul-Rallis sounds sooooo much stupid

. Even if ever existed such a family (norman Raoul, that later became greek Rallis), and of course I admit that it existed, (I am not a professional historian), I believe this dynasty-name must be changed. A person cannot be of "Raoul-Rallis" family. It can be of "Raoul", which "Raoul" in later times became "Rallis", and thus has been. Besides, this name "Raoul-Rallis" is mostly for encyclopedical (-historical) use, I think that never existed a person with the name X (Andronikos, Georgios or whatever) Raoul-Rallis, only X Raoul or X Rallis.
I remember also, that once I had mentioned that the ruling dynasty of Kingdom of Trebizond was Megas Komnenos (= Great Komnenos) not Rubenid, and the dynasty name should be changed into "Megas Komnenos". But I had been insulted that "Megas Komnenos" was ridiculous (and maybe it was, for the game-use) and turned to just "Komnenos". I think that the same is about "Raoul-Rallis". Why not change the dynasty name of this Andronikos/David into ""Dalassenos" (his father's dynasty name) or into "Dalassenos-Komnenos" (a combination of his father's and mother's dyn. names)?
After all, Crusader Kings is a game with a strong historical base (in fact a good occasion to study history of middle ages), but it is still a game, not an encyclopedia or even a discourse or thesis on medieval history. So, I think that also all these nicknames should be removed, they make all starting characters with nicknames bogus :rofl: , because, I repeat, CK is not an encyclopedia, it is a game.
But this is only my opinion.

unmerged(58515) · Jun 24, 2008

I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask this in, but I'll give it a try:

In vanilla DV, I played as Cherson and broke free from the Byzantine Empire by refusing to acknowledge the new Emperor (loyalty was virtually non-existent at this point because I also repeatedly refused to mobilize).

Now after applying the current beta patch and DVIP (with More Kingdoms), this doesn't work properly anymore. I still can refuse to acknowledge the new liege, but I am still a vassal – at least that's what the realm map and my country info says. However, I do get a "Pledge Allegiance" when I click on the Byzantine coat of arms. I got this with Cyprus, too, so the event must be broken somehow –*if it's due to Paradox's beta patch or due to DVIP I'm not sure, but maybe you guys should look into this.

EDIT: I just looked into the lordship_events.txt file. The event in question seems to be 1096. The independence trigger is commented out, so it's actually meant to not work anymore?

Code:

character_event = {
	id = 1096
	picture = "event_intrigue"

	action_a = { # Acknowledge New Liege
		effect = { type = prestige scale = 1 }
	}
	action_b = { # Refuse to acknowledge
		#effect = { type = independence }
		#effect = { type = trigger for = liege value = 9999 }
		#effect = { type = prestige scale = 1 }
		effect = { type = loyalty value = -1 }
	}
}

jordarkelf · Jun 24, 2008

Yes, I intended to disable this. IMHO the event is far too powerful -- at every liege succession, there is a 50% chance his vassals break free!
Instead of allowing independence, I turned the 'refuse' effect into a 100% loyalty hit. This allows you to pledge to another lord, or gives you a chance to get follow-up events that will allow you to break free (these events take low loyalty as a trigger).

unmerged(58515) · Jun 24, 2008

jordarkelf said:
Yes, I intended to disable this. IMHO the event is far too powerful -- at every liege succession, there is a 50% chance his vassals break free!
Instead of allowing independence, I turned the 'refuse' effect into a 100% loyalty hit. This allows you to pledge to another lord, or gives you a chance to get follow-up events that will allow you to break free (these events take low loyalty as a trigger).

Is it really 50%? I thought the default was something like 95/5. Or maybe that was only in Vicky, I don't know for sure.
Be that as it may, I still see your point, the event really is unbalanced. But it seems like the game engine doesn't handle this exactly the way you intended it to. Why do I get a "Pledge Allegiance" option when I still am his vassal?
Or is this unrelated to this event, and simply an option for boosting your loyalty if you wish to do that for some reason?

Maybe the follow-up event 9999 should be fired, if only to alert a human player to it if an AI vassal chooses to not acknowledge him.

unmerged(75409) · Jun 24, 2008

Lycidas said:
Is it really 50%? I thought the default was something like 95/5. Or maybe that was only in Vicky, I don't know for sure.
Be that as it may, I still see your point, the event really is unbalanced. But it seems like the game engine doesn't handle this exactly the way you intended it to. Why do I get a "Pledge Allegiance" option when I still am his vassal?
Or is this unrelated to this event, and simply an option for boosting your loyalty if you wish to do that for some reason?

Maybe the follow-up event 9999 should be fired, if only to alert a human player to it if an AI vassal chooses to not acknowledge him.

Low loyalty means you can pledge to anyone. I guess this includes your current ruler.

What happens when you pledge? Does loyalty go back to 100%?

Maybe that's the purpose of "repledging". A vassal suspected of disloyalty goes to his liege's castle and has his lord formally confirm his titles in exchange for a new oath of loyalty.

Also, DV has the indicator for vassals below 50% loyalty so I don't think a human player needs a follow up event.

jordarkelf · Jun 25, 2008

Low loyalty means you can pledge -- including to your current ruler.
Loyalty will remain at whatever level it is at, but depending on ruler traits etc. will rise again pretty soon.
And the DV alert works well enough to alert rulers of disloyal vassals.

It is possible to fix this event in another way, by scaling the two options for the AI so that vassals will almost never choose independence unless certain criteria are met, but that would require some extensive testing to get the factors all working right. I will look into this for the next version.

jordarkelf · Jun 25, 2008

This is an open call for team members for the DVIP.

If you're interested in taking on responsibility for a part of the DVIP, and are familiar with CK modding, please post a reply at the Terranova forum; or drop me a PM.
I'm looking for people who already know how to edit the scenario files to create characters, remap counties, duchies, and kingdoms, edit and create dynasties, or write events. A good knowledge of how CK-DV actually works is also welcomed.

Of course contributors who've do not actually mod CK are still welcome to post their ideas and suggestions, and will remain so, but they're not what I'm looking for as team members right now.

For future versions of the DVIP (version 10 and onwards) I'm hoping to find some people who want to take on a certain section of the DVIP, and become fully responsible for it within the project.
When I say sections, think of 'Byzantium', which would mean responsibility for characters, duchy setup, alliances, etc. in the Eastern Roman Empire; or 'technology', which would be responsible for the spread of initial technology across the map, and balancing the research of it; etc.. Actual sections/areas will depend on how many people are interested, and where their skills lie.

unmerged(104889) · Jun 29, 2008

If I use DVIP, can I convert my Crusader kings game to Europa universalis?

jordarkelf · Jun 29, 2008

Using the built-in converter, yes, you can convert to an EU2 savegame.

But if you want to convert to EU3 or to AGCEEP, you need both a mod and updated conversion data.

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