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You know, it is actually illegal to second a comment asking for an update with another comment asking for an update, so I won't do it. Although by mentioning the futility of such an act, I can enforce my previous request without actually exposing myself as an underclass individual.

Say, it's a lovely weather over here.
 
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Sorry about how long this took. I have school now and third year Chinese is a time sink like no other. I'm not giving up on this AAR, just slowing down somewhat. Thanks for your patience.

Jambor - Which is more fun anyway.

elbasto - Indeed, thanks for sticking around. I'm building three or four factories at the moment and the Germany will resolve your other questions in this update.

Leviathan07 - I like the idea of conquering Berlin from the East.

Duke_of_BOOM! - As am I, it's not interesting and it takes more troops to garrison then it took to originally conquer it.

Wolf Of Norway - It might not be as interesting as you hoped.

Maj. von Mauser - As do I.

Murmurandus - I try.

Milites - I have no troops in Egypt at the moment. They are being saved for the August surprise.

Nathan Madien - Fixed. This is the way things should have been.

Haru yo koi - I have a question for you. Do you find it hard to spot a run-on sentence in English? I just found out that it's apparently ok to write a sentence in Chinese that has 5 clauses all joined by commas. This results in a 4 line sentence that is impossible to translate. <end rant>

nomonhan - Thanks for catching that Halifax thing, otherwise I would have just kept writing Churchill into the narrative.

Talquin - Thanks

Now the long overdue Update!
 
30年 5月 10日

Chinese bombers were sent to impede the German advance. Unfortunately, what they saw was disheartening. Even with 4 full squadrons the Germans had too many troops for the Chinese air force to do more than partial damage from the air. Worse, the Yugoslav army was hopelessly outmatched from the outset.

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30年 5月 12日

Chinese interceptors had a fair bit more luck. A half strength squadron of Hungarian bombers was surprised by Chinese P-51's flying an intruder mission over Hungary.

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The Chinese fighters were able to shoot down several and the Hungarian planes were forced to attempt landings on roads and highways to avoid the fighters in the sky.

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30年 5月 19日

The decision not to send ground troops to Yugoslavia had been a foregone conclusion from the time that China had joined the war. The Chinese army estimated that it could move 250,000 troops immediately, but it would take almost two weeks to make the complete trip. Furthermore, the Germans were putting over a million troops into the theater and were quite capable of doubling that commitment. When the combined armies of Italy, Romania, and Hungary were thrown into the mix, the amount of troops required to rescue the beleaguered kingdom approached one million, at the least. This was not beyond China's capabilities to transport, but supplying them was another matter. Kong Xiangxi knew that they would be essentially taking on the entire mass of the Axis by themselves if they committed ground troops and was not willing to confer that burden on the people of China.

The final decision was made after German troops rolled into Zagreb. The Italians had already cut off the Yugoslav armies in the South and the British were unable to offer any help. Yugoslavia would be allowed to fall.

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30年 5月 26日

This isn't to say that the Chinese weren't going to help. The airforce continued their attacks on the Germans pushing in from the north.

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30年 5月 30日

German and Chinese fighters would meet for the first time above the Adriatic. Both forces had been on near constant alert and were stretched to the limits of their endurance. The planes were comparable, with the Chinese P-51's being a roughly equal match for the German Bf-109's and Fw 190's.

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The defining characteristic that tipped the battle for the Germans was experience. While the Chinese pilots had limited experience against the Japanese, the Germans had been fighting the British continuously from 1939. The Chinese pilots would come out of the encounter slightly worse for wear, but Chinese casualties were much lower than the Germans had expected. Still, the ROCAF was not eager for another such engagement.

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30年 6月 2日

The ROCAF would get some small measure of vengeance when the tactical bombers and their escorts were attacked by a squadron of Stukas. The escorting P-38's were eager to go on the offensive and the German squadron was destroyed easily.

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30年 6月 9日

The People's Political Council took this opportunity to make an ultimatum to the ruling Guomindang. They wanted to redraft the constitution. Currently, China was governed using the constitution drafted in 1936. It had been expanded and amended, but the basic idea of tutelage by the Guomindang was still very much enshrined. The PPC argued that the Republic of China should have a truly republican government now that the Japanese had been tamed. The period of political tutelage was over and the period of true democracy was beginning.

The new government was to have four branches or Yuan. The main one would be an executive Yuan and cabinet that would be elected via direct national elections. Their powers would be significant, but nowhere near the levels currently afforded to the president. Though the PPC had functioned as the legislature for the past 4 years, it had not been part of the constitution. The new legislative Yuan would convert the PPC into the upper house of the Legislative Yuan with 250 seats, to be awarded proportionally by party, based on national votes. A newly constituted lower house would be based on the U.S. house of representatives with one representative for every 200,000 people as well as some seats reserved for representatives from ethnic minorities. This branch of the legislature was to be created gradually over the next 5 years as voting systems were finalized. Another major change was to make an entirely independent judiciary. This was based on the success enjoyed by an early pilot program in Henan where local people had been allowed to nominate their own judges and funding for these courts was provided by the provincial government. The program had shown such effectiveness that it had been expanded, and now almost 15% of Chinese courts at the county level were directly elected. The new constitution wanted this system to be expanded to the entire country. At the provincial and national level, judges would be appointed by the Executive Yuan but were subject to approval by the corresponding legislative Yuan body.

Though traditionally separate, the Examination Yuan was merged with the Control Yuan. The Examination Yuan would take over the all the functions of an education ministry as well as be in charge of training and vetting non elected officials. The Control Yuan was in charge of government accountability and was very much separate from the the other Yuan. It's job was to keep the Judicial honest, the legislature focused, and the president accountable. The director would be appointed by the president for a lifetime term but be subject to review by the legislature as well as being accountable to the Judiciary, if the Legislature was able to bring a 60% majority demanding judicial review.

None of this was terribly appealing to the ruling Guomindang, but they lacked the political capital and excuses needed to block the initiative. The new constitution still assured their dominance for at least the next five years as all of this restructuring would take time.

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The move was hailed within the Allies as a huge step forward for democracy. The British, in particular, were finding it harder and harder to find the moral high ground when it came to Hong Kong.

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30年 6月 16日

The Yugoslavs had fought bravely, but they were no match for the combined armies of Germany, Italy, Romania, Hungary, and Bulgaria. When German artillery was audible from the Chinese airfields, the squadrons were ordered to leave. Even though they hadn't been able to save Yugoslavia, the Dragon Legion had boosted the the profile of the Chinese across Europe. Halifax and the rest of Britain began to look both east and west for deliverance.

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30年 6月 20日

The final collapse of Yugoslavia was a few days away. The rest of the world watched in horror the panzers rolled through the Balkan kingdom only to wonder at their next destination.

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30年 6月 21日

A possible answer was North Africa. The British forces had been able to steadily defeat the combined armies of fascism. However, the fall of Yugoslavia might allow Germany to commit more troops.

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30年 7月 1日

Chinese scientists were pleased to announce the creation of DN-1, the first fully electronic computer in Asia. It had only taken 4 months to change from a drawing into a functioning machine and the the Chinese embassy was quick to thank the British for their help. The first machine would be reprogrammed to help break the German and Russian codes.

The navy was pleased to announce that they had signed a historic agreement with Japan about how to supply ships at sea. Both the Japanese and the Chinese navy would be integrated into the new supply system. While stopping short of having a single bi national unified supply system, it did mean that Chinese and Japanese ships would be well able to range over the entirety of Pacific.

Somewhat disappointed by their showing above Yugoslavia, the Republic of China Airforce insisted on updating its training for all pilots to reflect what they had learned. The next time they flew against the Luftwaffe, the Chinese would be ready.

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30年 7月 4日

America would celebrate the birth of their own independence on the same day that Yugoslavia would officially lose theirs.

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Emboldened by the victory and assured of German support, the Italians declared war on Greece.

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30年 7月 10日

Early Greek victories had allowed the nascent republic to advance into Bulgarian territory. No one believed this was going to last as the Germans were going to move their armies south once they finished arming and equipping the "Independent State of Croatia." The newly empowered Ustase revolutionaries would help the Germans keep the rest of Yugoslavia under the fascist jackboot.

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30年 7月 11日

The Greek victories continued as the Greek army advanced to take up new defensive positions in Bulgaria. Unfortunately, this allowed Germany to couch their involvement as "defending poor beleaguered Bulgaria" as opposed to helping the Italian conquest. Chinese planners had wanted to intervene in Greece as well but a mysterious directive from Chinese intelligence to senior generals stayed their hand.

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30年 7月 25日

With no help from outside, the Greeks were no match for the combined armies of the Axis. After two weeks of fighting they were in full retreat with the final collapse expected within days.

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30年 7月 27日

Oil was a big problem for China as it lacked domestic sources. Currently, it had been making do by trading with the United States but the search for a domestic alternative to petroleum based fuel was high priority. Chinese researchers at the Yong Li Alkali company were building on the 1923 Fischer-Tropsch experiments conducted in Germany. Though currently not a cost effective way of making fuel from coal, it was hoped that further research would allow China to draw on its huge coal reserves as opposed to nonexistent petroleum ones to fuel its vehicles.

The military reorganization continued with a doctrine based on defending pockets. The Chinese had a new appreciation for how quickly mechanized formations could dissect and isolate armies and it crucial that troops, once isolated, knew how to hold out long enough for friendly forces to affect a rescue. The next step was to focus on how to turn the tables by adopting a defense in depth strategy.

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30年 7月 28日

German tanks rolled into Athens and in the subsequent treaty of Skopje, Greece was partitioned between Bulgaria and Italy. The last free country of the Balkans had fallen.

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30年 8月 2日

German confidence was at an all time high. On the morning of August 2nd, 1941, German tanks crossed into Eastern Poland. The Soviet Union was caught completely by surprise The remaining campaign season was only around two and a half months and they had expected any attack to arrive in June or July, at the latest, but August meant that Germans would have little hope of reaching Moscow before the snow fell. The Germans had planned for this and were quite prepared to spend the winter in Russia. Continental Europe would confront the Red Menace as the rest of the world watched.

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30年 8月 3日

At the same time, the British completed the agreed transfer of Hong Kong to the Republic of China. This marked the last major diplomatic difference between the two democracies and Kong Xiangxi was proud to raise the White Sun over the colony. In his speech to the assembled citizenry, he praised the British for their stewardship and said that China had much to learn from the only other empire to successfully make the transition to democracy.

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30年 8月 15日

The Soviet Union had been embroiled in a war for two weeks when news came of a shocking development in China. The full details of Chiang Ching Guo's death had been released to the public. Anti Soviet feeling, which had always been high within China due to the unpopularity of the communists, had been allowed to coalesce into a call for China to solve their outstanding territorial disputes with the Soviets by force. The news that Chiang Ching Guo, the son of the now revered father of modern China, had been tortured and possibly killed by the Soviets, prompted the Legislative Yuan to demand an immediate apology form the Soviet Union.

In truth, the story had been kept secret from the public to avoid dragging China into a war with the Soviets before they were ready, now that the Soviets were occupied in Europe, China was more than willing to poke the Bear.

The apology was not forthcoming, and Kong Xiangxi declared this a break of good faith with the country and ordered Chinese troops to advance into Mongolia to show that the Chinese meant business.

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The Soviets, despite being occupied in Europe were not about to let this stand. Stalin immediately declared war on China.

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Of course, that had been the hope of Chinese military planners all along. A soviet declaration of war allowed them to justify their next steps to both the world and Chinese public as self defense.

The first step, of course, was uniting Chinese Inner Mongolia with the Soviet Puppet in Outer Mongolia.

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In Manchuria, Chinese troops were tasked with isolating and destroying the smaller Soviet army in Vladivostock.

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The other main objectives in the East were Yakutsk and Okhotsk. These were the only industrial centers that the Soviets had in Siberia and without these the Soviets would have to rely on supply coming from Central Asia and Eastern Europe.

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Something that the Soviets were not going to be able to do because of Operation Tranquility (平静行动). Almost two million Chinese troops were ordered to advance into Central Asia, not stopping until they were facing the Germans from across the Volga. The British had been agonizing over which autocracy was worse. China would simply cut the Gordion Knot and wipe the twin scourges of Fascism and Communism from the Earth.

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Sorry that took so long, Human wave vs. Human wave on the next AARight to be Hostile!
 
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It won't stay that easy...:(
 
Woah... I don't think the germans will be expecting the chinese to come through Russia... I just have to say wow. Will you take the lands that you have claims on and then puppet Russia, or will you just annex them?
 
I think he should release Siberia or whatever that country is.

Anyways, great job! I liked the air battles over Yugoslavia, and anticipate the new ones over Siberia. You will rebase your planes back into China yes?

I look forward to engagements with the Mongolian Army. China and Mongolia at last confront each other after hundreds of years.

I'm not so shure I look forward to the engagement with the Soviet Army, but I'm shure it will be interesting.


Alos, let's not forget about naval action in the far east. I'm shure I know who will come out on top of that. :D
 
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Porkman said:
Haru yo koi - I have a question for you. Do you find it hard to spot a run-on sentence in English? I just found out that it's apparently ok to write a sentence in Chinese that has 5 clauses all joined by commas. This results in a 4 line sentence that is impossible to translate. <end rant>

I'm sorry? :p
 
Haru yo koi said:
I'm sorry? :p

根据“全球语音监督机构”的最新报告,英语正在经历历史上从未有过变革,究其愿意是受到全球化大环境下中国式英语的强烈冲击,不断地吸收新词汇,已使英语成为世界混合语。

This roughly translates to,

"According to the World Language Control Board, English is currently experiencing a historic change. This is caused by the growing influence of Chinese style English due to globalization. As it continuously absorbs new phrases, English is becoming the mixed language of the world."

I had to break that up into three sentences. It's difficult and I'm still unsure about my exact translation. There are 5 line paragraphs in this article that are only two sentences long. One of the more common errors in English is to write a sentence that's too long because a comma has been used to improperly join the two parts (clauses.) I was wondering if you had ever made that kind of error as you were learning English.

Also I was ranting because I'm not doing very well in my Chinese class.
 
Well, as English is the de-facto lingua franca of the world this could even be true.
 
elbasto said:
Wow, good luck meeting the Germans (the Soviets shouldn't proof too difficult).

Your logistics will be tested hard.
I wouldn't underestimate the Soviets, in all of my China games, the germans proved to be pushovers and the Soviets would really bog me down. Not only that, but the long trek across Siberia is a real test of one's patience.
 
I love playing Nationalist China in HOI2. I've done it twice.

The first time, I struggled with taking Taiwan, because Nat China's navy was terrible, and for me I thought the struggle would all be in trying to unite China, which was surprisingly easy. I had China united so fast the Japanese chose not to declare war on me, so I had to declare on them to get Manchuria. I never did end up beating Japan for good, so after I had SE Asia and Taiwan, I just left them alone and went after the Soviets.

The Soviets fell easy, because Germany was killing them. (They had Stalingrad well in hand.) The main reason I declared on them (around 1942) was to get there before Germany did.

Eventually the fronts met, and the Soviets had nothing, right? Except Moscow. Apparently there was some unknown number of troops in Moscow that the Germans just could not defeat. And so somewhere in 1944 or 1945, America took out the German homeland and annexed them. I tried to march forward to destroy the Soviets, but them instantly getting all their rich provinces back was too much, and they ended up pushing me all the way back to my borders, at which point they were refusing a white peace, and I just stopped playing.

The second time, I tried to learn from my mistakes. I don't think I united quite as fast this time around--it took me a good year and a half, so the Japanese declared on me. I built a gigantic U-boat navy (90 boats) and destroyed the Japanese fleet piecemeal. Japan got annexed in 1941 or 42, don't remember which, in about three separate peace agreements (Manchuria->Korea->everything).

This ended up being a really odd game though, because the Poles folded to German demands (twice), so there was no "war". So I had to save the game around middle of 1940, go into Germany and have them declare on Poland, Yugoslavia, Norway, Denmark, and Greece, just so that something would happen.

I'm now sitting in 1942, having run into my full expansionist boundaries (annex Thailand), wondering what to do. I could go after the Soviets again, I suppose, but I don't know. Tempted to go after the Allies instead, depending on how the war turns out--India doesn't look that hard to take. I want to take Afghanistan, Persia, and Turkey, and then maybe I could have a say in Europe, but I held off on that just in case I'd take the Soviets--that would be a ridiculously long front.

Your game is going well. I usually completely ignore air forces as too expensive, and just buy tons of static AA. But it would be hard to make an allied contribution without them, all things considered. I should try joining one of the three sides one of these days.
 
This is how most of my NatChina games turn out (roll through USSR when they're distracted by Germany, join allies and fight the Germans on the Volga). I find Germany is always a much nastier fight than the Soviets since the Soviets poorly garrison their southern border and by the time you meet the Germans they have an obscene amount of IC and divisions.
 
You really think that you'll mange both the Germans and the Soviets?

On another note, this mod looks sweet. I've never seen a minister line up that looked like that before.
 
NorthernFalcon said:
Your game is going well. I usually completely ignore air forces as too expensive, and just buy tons of static AA. But it would be hard to make an allied contribution without them, all things considered. I should try joining one of the three sides one of these days.


you ignore the air force?
wut?