For some reason I can't help but imagine any DLC named like that would need music from Manowar or a Scandinavian metal band as its opening music.
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For some reason I can't help but imagine any DLC named like that would need music from Manowar or a Scandinavian metal band as its opening music.
I can see the title of the dlc now, "Hammer of Thor" or "Spear of Odinn"! RAWR!
This is why I'm concerned about this DLC and how it would look if they listened to the majority of the people on this forum...
All this neo-nazi talk about buff "viking" dudes with... (sigh) horns on their helmets and brutal manner conquering the world with no resistance. Thor and Odin as the only existing gods to worship. And the list goes on full with ahistorical claims...
I hate people whose historical base comes from watching fictional movies...
I don't get that attitude, though. What does being a 'neo-nazi' have to do with ANYTHING posted here? It just feels like a lot of people here are using words whose meaning they're not familiar with. I get that all that ww2 stuff is still a big deal in scandinavia and germany, but how the hell do you get from there to here, exactly?
It's only similar in that the terms terrorist and pagan are negative, though I'd dispute that guerrilla is really negative. As far as what the terms mean and where they originated they are nothing alike. Pagan really does come from a Latin word for rural people which means something like country hick, because by the Middle Ages all urban, formally educated people (in Europe) were Christians. Terrorist obviously has very different meanings.
And I'm not even going to address the obvious contradiction in spreading tolerance by destroying all rival religions.
I don't... uh... I don't get where the 'neo-nazi talk' thing comes from. The Vikings were a people (or peoples, for that matter) known for their fighting skills and the fact that they plundered pretty much every european coast, that's a fact. Now, whether they actually lived up to that is a different question.
I don't get that attitude, though. What does being a 'neo-nazi' have to do with ANYTHING posted here? It just feels like a lot of people here are using words whose meaning they're not familiar with. I get that all that ww2 stuff is still a big deal in scandinavia and germany, but how the hell do you get from there to here, exactly?
The Vikings were a people (or peoples, for that matter) known for their fighting skills and the fact that they plundered pretty much every european coast, that's a fact. Now, whether they actually lived up to that is a different question.
Sorry for nitpicking, but the definition of the word Viking is a bit off here. 'To go Viking' was to travel away from your home, whether to trade, explore, conquer, or settle elsewhere. The Vikings weren't a people, but rather a profession that some Scandinavians chose.
For some reason I can't help but imagine any DLC named like that would need music from Manowar or a Scandinavian metal band as its opening music.
First of all... "Viking" weren't a people, but the name of the raiders coming from Scandinavia (Another name for pirates in the north). The Norse is the people you're referring to and that is a big difference. (People don't know their true nature as traders rather than raiders either it seems.)
Second of all... it's commonly known that the nazis used the Germanic tribes (Scandinavians tribes is subgroup) to verify their right to rule over others and why there genes was "better". In Sweden the vikings were used in the same way under the influence of Nazism.
It's very rude to use "Vikings" in that manner, you disrespect history by doing so. Please don't.
Well if I were a woman, the choice would be much more difficult. But as a man I could maybe agree to that. Better than being enslaved by your hungry neighbour or got your ribcage ripped apart after losing a battle (called "the split eagle", performed when you were still alive btw.).Strange as it may be, I prefer being subject to sharia than being sacrificed alive to some pagan gods.
First of all... "Viking" weren't a people, but the name of the raiders coming from Scandinavia (Another name for pirates in the north). The Norse is the people you're referring to and that is a big difference. (People don't know their true nature as traders rather than raiders either it seems.
IF i remember correctly from the history class, it was common for per say the second son (and third etc) "go viking" be it raiding or tradeing in order to earn their own wealth and prestige, while the first born often remained at home due to being the heir to the family lands (often a farm or a holding).
Correct. Cyberbard gave us a good explanation. The important part is that vikings aren't a people, which I hope everyone understands now.
irstly, this time period is one in which pagan culture was in decline and Christianity was sweeping across Europe. The Viking Age ends right at the beginning of the game and no other major pagan culture ever emerged. The inevitable Pagan empires that would emerge in a Pagan DLC would be dramatically unhistorical. To make it more realistic would be to make the pagan factions almost impossibly difficult.
And not a single person in the world called the later Roman Empire the "Byzantine Empire", but as long as people know what you're talking about, it's hardly a big deal. Correcting misconceptions or providing interesting info on the medieval Scandinavians is great, but someone calling them "vikings" isn't worth getting upset over. That is what they are called in common English parlance.
No one is upset, but the topic concerns Vikings among others which makes it relevant. Considering all Scandinavians of the Viking-era to have been Vikings is sort of like considering all American settlers in the 16th century as British.