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25-01-2003, 23:14
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Vile treacherous Judas
   
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EEP Navarra
I didn't know whether I should post this to the French or the Iberian thread, so I decided to open a new one.
This concerns actually two countries, Navarra and Foix ; I suggest that Foix replaces the obscure Huguenot country (FPR) that will be no longer needed when events have been created for Navarra in the Wars of Religion. Most (but not all, it's always better to double-check) of what I suggest is based on this brillant site about the Counts of Foix - before reading this, I honestly did not have much of a clue about Navarra, and I therefore may still have gotten something wrong. Just correct me. Setup - Navarra should have Basque and French culture; it was ruled by the counts of Evreux, a side branch of the French crown - Navarra could have shields on Cantabria and Gascogne since these were old basque territories (or an event to reclaim old Basque territories like the frisian one already in the EEP) - Foix should become an independent French vassal owning Béarn (but not ally; the counts of Foix were "ni anglais, ni français") that is merged with Navarra in 1481 -I don't know if iron is really accurate as good for Navarra; possibly naval supplies (much of the area is covered with forests) or simply wheat would be better - Béarn, being situated in the Pyrenees, should really be a mountain province Events I have scripted events for both countries up to 1512 (when everything south of the Pyrenees was lost to Aragon). These are still untested (will do that asap). Code:
[COLOR=royal blue]
#Juan of Aragon inherits Navarra
event = {
id = 333500 #triggered by ARG7113
random = no
country = NAV
name = "EVENTNAME7113"
desc = "EVENTHIST7113"
style = 1
action_a = {
name = "Ok"
command = { type = alliance which = ARG }
command = { type = breakvassal which = FRA }
command = { type = remove_countryculture which = french }
}
}
#Territorial consolidation
event = {
id = 333501
random = no
country = FPR
name = "Acquisition of Bigorre, Marquefave, Villemur and Auterive"
desc = "After the death of Jean de Foix-Grailly in 1436 the new possessions he had acquired during his reign, the County of Bigorre and the Lordships of Marquefave, Villemur and Auterive, were secured for his heirs and annexed definitely to Foix."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1436 }
offset = 100
action_a = {
name = "Great"
command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = 2 }
command = { type = provincemanpower which -2 value = 1 }
command = { type = population which = -2 value = 3000 }
}
}
#Mint in Pamiers
event = {
id = 333515
random = no
country = FPR
name = "Mint in Pamiers"
desc = "In 1419 Count Jean de Foix created an own mint in the city of Pamiers to improve his financial situation. The copper coins produced were called 'Guilhems' because they were used for a war against Guillaume d'Orange. However, French King Charles VII considered the production of coins a royal privilegue and demanded the mint's closure in 1422. Honoring his status as a vassal of the crown, Jean obeyed and closed the mint."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1422 }
offset = 300
action_a = {
name = "Obey the King and close the mint"
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 50 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Keep the mint"
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
command = { type = inflation value = 5 }
command = { type = treasury value = 75 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = 1 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}
#Death of Queen Blanche
event = {
id = 333507
random = no
country = NAV
name = "Death of Queen Blanche"
desc = "Since 1425 Juan of Aragon was, through his marriage with Queen Blanche of Navarra, King of Navarra. Upon the death of Blanche the Kingdom was to pass to the couple's son, Carles de Viana. However, when his wife died in 1441, declaring once again that she wanted her son to succeed her, Juan refused to accept and occupied the throne."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1441 }
offset = 300
action_a = {
name = "Juan occupies the throne"
command = { type = stability value = -3 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = 100 }
command = { type = alliance which = ARG }
}
action_b = {
name = "Navarra passes to Carles de Viana"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 06781 }
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 06790 } #Carles de Viana
}
}
#Beaumont and Gramont
event = {
id = 333508
random = no
country = NAV
name = "Conflict between Beaumont and Gramont"
desc = "Carlos de Viana opposed his father's assumption of the throne of Navarra and considered himself rightful King. On September 7th 1451 he even signed the treaty of Puente de la Reina, ending the war against Castille his father had initiated. This sparked a civil war between the supporters of Carlos and of Juan, both led by two familied that had an ancient hostility towards each other, the Beaumont on Carlos' side and the Gramont supporting Juan. Open, bloody war between the two factions began in 1452 and continued for several decades."
style = 1
date = { day = 7 month = september year = 1451 }
action_a = {
name = "Ouch"
command = { type = stability value = -4 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 360 value = 4 }
command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
}
}
#Inheritance of Navarra
event = {
id = 333502
random = no
country = NAV
name = "Death of Juan II of Aragon and Navarra"
desc = "In the Treaty of Barcelona of 1456, Juan of Navarra dispossessed his son Carlos de Viana and appointed the Count of Foix, then Gaston IV, his successor, appreciating his support in the civil war in Navarra and Aragon. When Juan died in 1479, the treaty came into effect and Navarra passed to Gaston's son François Febus instead of Juan's successor in Aragon, Fernando. The overlord of Foix, the King of France, also claimed Navarra."
style = 1
date = { day = 12 month = february year = 1479 }
offset = 0
action_a = {
name = "François Febus of Foix is heir"
command = { type = trigger which = 333503 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Fernando of Aragon is heir"
command = { type = trigger which = 333505 }
command = { type = trigger which = 333506 }
action_c = {
name = "Louis XI of France is heir"
command = { type = trigger which = 333504 }
command = { type = trigger which = 333506 }
}
action_d = {
name = "Navarra remains independent"
command = { type = trigger which = 333506 }
command = { type = stability value = -4 }
command = { type = relation which = FPR value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -200 }
command = { type = desertion which = -2 value = 8000 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333503
random = no
country = FPR
name = "Inheritance of Navarra"
desc = "In the Treaty of Barcelona of 1456, Juan of Navarra dispossessed his son Carlos de Viana and appointed the Count of Foix, then Gaston IV, his successor, appreciating his support in the civil war in Navarra and Aragon. When Juan died in 1479, the treaty came into effect and Navarra passed to Gaston's son François Febus."
style = 1
action_a = {
name = "Fine"
command = { type = inherit which = NAV }
command = { type = addcore which = 428 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333504
random = no
country = FRA
name = "Inheritance of Navarra"
desc = "In the Treaty of Barcelona of 1456, Juan of Navarra dispossessed his son Carlos de Viana and appointed the Count of Foix, then Gaston IV, his successor, appreciating his support in the civil war in Navarra and Aragon. Now that Juan has died, Navarra ignored the Treaty and decided to be inherited by the King of France."
style = 1
action_a = {
name = "Fine"
command = { type = inherit which = NAV }
command = { type = addcore which = 428 }
command = { type = relation which = FPR value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = -100 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333505
random = no
country = ARG
name = "Inheritance of Navarra"
desc = "In the Treaty of Barcelona of 1456, Juan of Navarra dispossessed his son Carlos de Viana and appointed the Count of Foix, then Gaston IV, his successor, appreciating his support in the civil war in Navarra and Aragon. Now that our King Juan has died, Navarra ignored the Treaty and decided to stay within the crown of Aragon."
style = 1
action_a = {
name = "Fine"
command = { type = inherit which = NAV }
command = { type = addcore which = 428 }
command = { type = relation which = FPR value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
command = { type = add_countryculture which = basque }
}
}
event = {
id = 333506
random = no
country = FPR
name = "Treaty of Barcelona ignored"
desc = "In the Treaty of Barcelona of 1456, Juan of Navarra dispossessed his son Carlos de Viana and appointed the Count of Foix, then Gaston IV, his successor, appreciating his support in the civil war in Navarra and Aragon. Now that Juan has died, Navarra dared to ignore the Treaty. We will thus have to fight to secure our rightful heritage."
style = 1
action_a = {
name = "This is outrageous"
command = { type = relation which = NAV value = -300 }
command = { type = addcore which = 428 }
}
}
#Civil war in Navarra continues
event = {
id = 333509
trigger = { event = 333503
owned = { province = 428 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = FPR
name = "War between Beaumont and Gramont continues"
desc = "Since 1452 two factions led by hostile families, Beaumont and Gramont, waged a bloody, exhausting civil war in Navarra about the legimate succession to the throne, the one originally supporting Juan of Aragon, the other his son Carlos de Viana. This struggle continued after the death of Carlos in 1461 and even after the death of Juan when the Count of Foix inherited Navarra, preventing his coronation."
style = 1
date = { day = 13 month = february year = 1479 }
offset = 0
action_a = {
name = "Damn them"
command = { type = removecore which = 428 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 428 value = 7 }
command = { type = revolt which = 428 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333510
trigger = { event = 333504
owned = { province = 428 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = FRA
name = "War between Beaumont and Gramont continues"
desc = "Since 1452 two factions led by hostile families, Beaumont and Gramont, waged a bloody, exhausting civil war in Navarra about the legimate succession to the throne, the one originally supporting Juan of Aragon, the other his son Carlos de Viana. This struggle continued after the death of Carlos in 1461 and even after the death of Juan when the Count of Foix inherited Navarra, preventing his coronation."
style = 1
date = { day = 13 month = february year = 1479 }
offset = 0
action_a = {
name = "Damn them"
command = { type = removecore which = 428 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 428 value = 7 }
command = { type = revolt which = 428 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333511
trigger = { event = 333505
owned = { province = 428 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = ARG
name = "War between Beaumont and Gramont continues"
desc = "Since 1452 two factions led by hostile families, Beaumont and Gramont, waged a bloody, exhausting civil war in Navarra about the legimate succession to the throne, the one originally supporting Juan of Aragon, the other his son Carlos de Viana. This struggle continued after the death of Carlos in 1461 and even after the death of Juan when the Count of Foix inherited Navarra, preventing his coronation."
style = 1
date = { day = 13 month = february year = 1479 }
offset = 0
action_a = {
name = "Damn them"
command = { type = removecore which = 428 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 428 value = 7 }
command = { type = revolt which = 428 }
}
}
#Coronation in Pamplona
event = {
id = 333512
trigger = { event = 333503
owned = { province = 428 data = -1 }
control = { province = 428 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = FPR
name = "Coronation in Pamplona"
desc = "For two years after his recognition as heir to the crown of Navarra, François Febus wasn't even able to enter his new Kingdom safely because of the ongoing civil war between the Beaumont and Gramont factions. In 1481 his uncle, Cardinal Pierre de Foix, finally managed to restore order in Navarra and to get both sides to accept François-Febus. Hence, he could travel to Pamplona and be crowned King of Navarra on November 3rd 1481."
style = 1
date = { day = 3 month = november year = 1481 }
offset = 0
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1500 }
action_a = {
name = "Finally"
command = { type = country which = NAV }
command = { type = capital which = 428 }
command = { type = vp value = 50 }
command = { type = addcore which = 428 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 428 value = -7 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333513
trigger = { event = 333504
owned = { province = 428 data = -1 }
control = { province = 428 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = FRA
name = "Coronation in Pamplona"
desc = "For two years after his recognition as heir to the crown of Navarra, the King of France wasn't even able to enter his new Kingdom safely because of the ongoing civil war between the Beaumont and Gramont factions. We have now finally managed to restore order in Navarra and can now let the coronation in the Kingdom's capital, Pamplona, take place."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1481 }
offset = 0
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1500 }
action_a = {
name = "Finally"
command = { type = vp value = 50 }
command = { type = addcore which = 428 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 428 value = -7 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333514
trigger = { event = 333505
owned = { province = 428 data = -1 }
control = { province = 428 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = ARG
name = "Coronation in Pamplona"
desc = "For two years after his recognition as heir to the crown of Navarra, the King of Aragon wasn't even able to enter his new Kingdom safely because of the ongoing civil war between the Beaumont and Gramont factions. We have now finally managed to restore order in Navarra and can now let the coronation in the Kingdom's capital, Pamplona, take place."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1481 }
offset = 0
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1500 }
action_a = {
name = "Finally"
command = { type = vp value = 50 }
command = { type = addcore which = 428 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 428 value = -7 }
}
}
#Marriage with Jean D'Albret
event = {
id = 333516
trigger = { event = 333512 }
random = no
country = NAV
name = "Catherine de Foix marries Jean D'Albret"
desc = "Catherine de Foix, heiress to Foix, Béarn and the throne of Navarra, married Jean D'Albret who had extensive possessions in Southern France. Thus, the domains of the Foix and the Albret were united and a new dominating dynasty in Occitania created. Jean took control of all their territories and unfortunately very soon proved to be completely incompetent."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1484 }
offset = 10
action_a = {
name = "Ok"
command = { type = provincetax which = 425 value = 3 }
command = { type = provincemanpower which = 425 value = 2 }
command = { type = population which = 425 value = 6000 }
command = { type = vp value = 10 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333517
trigger = { NOT = { event = 333112 } }
random = no
country = FPR
name = "Catherine de Foix marries Jean D'Albret"
desc = "Catherine de Foix, heiress to Foix, Béarn and the throne of Navarra, married Jean D'Albret who had extensive possessions in Southern France. Thus, the domains of the Foix and the Albret were united and a new dominating dynasty in Occitania created. Jean took control of all their territories and unfortunately very soon proved to be completely uninterested and incompetent."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1484 }
offset = 10
action_a = {
name = "Ok"
command = { type = provincetax which = 425 value = 3 }
command = { type = provincemanpower which = 425 value = 2 }
command = { type = population which = 425 value = 6000 }
command = { type = vp value = 10 }
}
}
#War of Succession
event = {
id = 333518
trigger = { event = 333512 }
random = no
country = NAV
name = "War of Succession in Navarra"
desc = "Upon the premature childless death of François Febus his sister Catherine succeeded him. This arrangement was opposed by the next male relative, Jean Vicomte de Narbonne who started contesting his niece's and her husband's inheritance in 1494. The war lasted for three years and crippled the whole country until Jean finally submitted in the Peace of Tarbes on September 7th 1497."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1494 }
offset = 100
action_a = {
name = "Support Catherine and Jean D'Albret"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 6 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Support the Vicomte de Foix-Narbonne"
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 4 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 6000 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 333520 }
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 06785 }
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 06791 }
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 06792 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333519
trigger = { NOT = { event = 333512 }}
random = no
country = FPR
name = "War of Succession in the Foix territories"
desc = "Upon the premature childless death of François Febus his sister Catherine succeeded him. This arrangement was opposed by the next male relative, Jean Vicomte de Narbonne who started contesting his niece's and her husband's inheritance in 1494. The war lasted for three years and crippled the whole country until Jean finally submitted in the Peace of Tarbes on September 7th 1497."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1494 }
offset = 100
action_a = {
name = "Support Catherine and Jean D'Albret"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 6 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Support the Vicomte de Foix-Narbonne"
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 4 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 6000 }
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 17429 }
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 17444 }
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 17445 }
}
}
#Fernando of Aragon claims Navarra
event = {
id = 333520
trigger = { owned = { province = 428 data = NAV }
event = 333512
}
random = no
country = ARG
name = "Aragon claims Navarra"
desc = "Upon the premature childless death of François Febus of Navarra his sister Catherine succeeded him. This arrangement was opposed by the next male relative, Jean Vicomte de Narbonne who started contesting his niece's and her husband's inheritance in 1494. The war lasted for three years and crippled the whole country until Jean finally submitted in the Peace of Tarbes on September 7th 1497. However, the Vicomtes of Narbonne never really gave up their claim and Jean's son Gaston continued to gather support for it. When Gaston died in battle in 1512, Fernando of Aragon who had married Gaston's sister Germaine inherited the claim. This was of course a long-awaited opportunity for Fernando to complete Spain's possessions on the Iberian Peninsula, and he did not hesitate to invade Navarra. Spanish troops occupied everything south of the Pyrenees within less than a year."
style = 2
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1512 }
offset = 120
action_a = {
name = "Press the claim"
command = { type = relation which = NAV value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
command = { type = addcore which = 428 }
command = { type = add_countryculture which = basque }
command = { type = trigger which = 333521 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Leave Navarra alone"
command = { type = relation which = NAV value = 50 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
}
event = {
id = 333521
random = no
country = NAV
name = "Aragon claims Navarra"
desc = "Despite the peace concluded in 1497 the vicomtes of Narbonne continued to claim Navarra. When Fernando of Aragon inherited this questionable claim through his marriage with Germaine de Foix-Narbonne in 1512, he took this opportunity to complete Spain's possessions on the Iberian Peninsula. Superior Castilian and Aragonese troops invaded and quickly occupied all of Navarra south of the Pyrenees. Louis XII, king of France, set up an expedition commanded by the dauphin François in which Jean d'Albret participated to free Navarre. It besieged Pamplona on november 27th but failed with winter arrival; Navarra had no choice but to accept the loss of its possessions."
style = 2
action_a = {
name = "We're unable to keep Navarra"
command = { type = capital which = 425 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = ARG value = 428 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Fight these usurpers"
command = { type = war which = ARG }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
}
}
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26-01-2003, 00:30
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Vile treacherous Judas
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Beautiful Trier
Posts: 3,052
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monarchs.fpr
Here is the monarch file for Foix. Like for Navarra, I thought it makes sense for if to get the Kings of France if it stays independent :
Code:
[COLOR=dark red]
# Foix/Béarn #
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17425 }
name = "Jean I"
startdate = {
year = 1412
}
deathdate = {
year = 1436
}
DIP = 7
ADM = 6
MIL = 6
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17426 }
name = "Gaston IV"
startdate = {
year = 1436
}
deathdate = {
year = 1472
}
DIP = 7
ADM = 7
MIL = 7
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17427 }
name = "François Febus"
startdate = {
year = 1472
}
deathdate = {
day = 29
month = january
year = 1483
}
DIP = 6
ADM = 6
MIL = 6
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17428 }
name = "Catherine"
startdate = {
year = 1483
}
deathdate = {
month = january
year = 1484
}
DIP = 7
ADM = 5
MIL = 5
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17429 }
name = "Jean D'Albret"
startdate = {
year = 1484
}
deathdate = {
month = january
year = 1516
}
DIP = 5
ADM = 3
MIL = 2
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17430 }
name = "Catherine"
startdate = {
year = 1516
}
deathdate = {
day = 12
month = february
year = 1517
}
DIP = 7
ADM = 6
MIL = 5
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17431 }
name = "Henri II"
startdate = {
year = 1517
}
deathdate = {
year = 1555
}
DIP = 7
ADM = 6
MIL = 6
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17432 }
name = "Jeanne D'Albret"
startdate = {
year = 1555
}
deathdate = {
month = june
year = 1572
}
DIP = 7
ADM = 8
MIL = 6
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17433 }
name = "Henri III"
startdate = {
year = 1572
}
deathdate = {
day = 14
month = may
year = 1610
}
DIP = 9
ADM = 9
MIL = 9
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17434 }
name = "Louis I"
startdate = {
day = 14
month = may
year = 1610
}
deathdate = {
day = 14
month = may
year = 1643
}
DIP = 6
ADM = 6
MIL = 7
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17435 }
name = "Louis II"
startdate = {
day = 14
month = may
year = 1643
}
deathdate = {
day = 1
month = september
year = 1715
}
DIP = 8
ADM = 6
MIL = 9
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17436 }
name = "Louis III"
startdate = {
day = 1
month = september
year = 1715
}
deathdate = {
day = 10
month = may
year = 1774
}
DIP = 5
ADM = 5
MIL = 6
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17437 }
name = "Louis IV"
startdate = {
day = 10
month = may
year = 1774
}
deathdate = {
day = 2
month = may
year = 1814
}
DIP = 3
ADM = 7
MIL = 7
dormant = no
remark = "He was imprisoned 10 August 1792"
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17438 }
name = "Louis V"
startdate = {
day = 2
month = may
year = 1814
}
deathdate = {
day = 29
month = april
year = 1853
}
DIP = 5
ADM = 6
MIL = 7
dormant = no
remark = "The Little Dauphine that died in prison"
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17444 }
name = "Jean II"
startdate = { year = 1494 }
enddate = {
year = 1500
}
DIP = 5
ADM = 5
MIL = 5
dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 17445 }
name = "Gaston V"
startdate = { year = 1500 }
enddate = {
day = 11
month = april
year = 1512
}
DIP = 5
ADM = 5
MIL = 7
dormant = yes
}
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I'd like to suggest something about Navarra, that may at first seem a bit bizarre, but I think there is a case for them having a CB on Morea in 1419. I can't remember exactly where I read it, but I believe in the admittedly fragmented state that Greece was in in 1419, a significant proportion of the Peloponnese was ruled by a group of Navarran knight adventurers. If Byzantium gets a shield on it for owning a couple of city-states, then I think Navarra definitly has a case...
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29-01-2003, 07:34
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Vile treacherous Judas
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Ok, you convinced me that this doesn't really work. However, then the Huguenot state really needs to become independent much earlier in the Wars of Religion. What about letting France release it already in the initial event in 1562?
Foix, just as suggested before, could as well take the AUV or ORL tag, since these countries are not that urgently needed. |
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29-01-2003, 17:52
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Vile treacherous Judas
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That sounds REALLY great and should make the Wars of Religion much more interesting and challenging. If nice events for Navarra, Bourbon and Armagnac are done that tie in with the FPR ones and make them ally with them at the appropriate time and Spanish, English, Dutch and German involvement is modelled better, this should make the Wars of Religion quite exciting (and also improve game balance as it would probably severely weaken France).
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20-02-2003, 13:30
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"Navarra could have shields on Cantabria and Gascogne since these were old basque territories "
Actually something similar just happened in my game. I was Austria and right after Navarra emerged again sometimes in mid 17th century I allied with them and later made vassals. My policy (just for fun) was to maintain this independent country. But you can not add provinces to your vassal just like this. But I was lucky. Gascoigne rebelled and joined Navarra. Gascogne btw was part of England, then Ottoamn and later Sweden. I engaged Sweden and kept off their armies from Gascogne. So this big country (Gascogne, Bearn, Navarra) lasted til 1819. Basicaly it was the historical kingdom/duchy of Acquitane. |
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08-04-2003, 10:18
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Vile treacherous Judas
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Any suggestions regarding this stuff? Might submit it otherwise.
EDIT: Btw, what happened to Count Six's replies in this thread?? |
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08-04-2003, 14:39
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Seems good. Is there a flag for Foix as well?
Could you add some comments please, it is a bit hard to follow as it is. Check FAQ for suggestions. Comments: If in 333507 #Death of Queen Blanche, one choses tom pass the throne to Carles de Viana, the next event 333508 comes out a bit strange, since then Juan seems to be on the throne anyway. Perhaps just a change in the text will suffice. 333507 is perhaps a bit unbalanced, I understand the background for it but still no real choice for a player.
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10-04-2003, 23:00
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Vile treacherous Judas
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Yes, I have a flag for Foix-Béarn.
I will try to add comments to the submission. Choosing Carlos de Viana should in fact sleep the civil war event (333508), however that will make the event even more unbalanced. Making Carlos a terribly incompetent monarch and triggering an event that lets Aragon go to war with Navarra if Carlos is installed might help in improving the a option. |
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13-04-2003, 11:51
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Vile treacherous Judas
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What would you think about using Basque names for the monarchs of Navarra? Navarra was, despite its rulers being French or Catalan, a Basque kingdom, and it therefore seems wrong to have Spanish, French, Catalan or English names. I've found several sites with Basque names and their English equivalents, can anybody tell me if these monarch names would be right?
Charles II = Xarles II Juan II = Iban II Charles III of Viana = Xarles III of (what's "of" in Basque  ?)VianaFrancois Febus = Frantzes Phoebus Catherine de Foix = Katerin Henri II = Endira II Jeanne III d'Albret = Joana III of (again, better in Basque) Albret Henri III = Endira III Louis I (using Kings of France now) = Koldobika I Louis II = Koldobika II Louis III = Koldobika III Louis IV = Koldobika IV Louis V (Louis XVII, the little Dauphin who died in prison) = Koldobika V On a side note, the already existing Basque language pool for leaders should be used by Navarra and Foix. |
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13-04-2003, 11:54
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We should use the names the rulers used IMO. But I'm not sure what that is. Not being very useful I'm afraid.
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