Roman Catholic Church of Eutopia

Bagricula · 05-01-2003, 03:55

The Roman Catholic Church of Eutopia

Salvete Fratres Sororesque in Christe! Or for those of you not trained in Latin, "Welcome brothers and sisters in Christ!" The Roman Catholic Church is the original Christian Church founded by the Apostles, most notably Petrus or Peter. It is called "Roman" because its seat of doctrinal authority rests in Rome. It is called "Catholic" because it is a universal church that embraces all of humanity. The oldest and largest branch of Christianity, Catholicism is the trunk from which all other Christian sects have grown. It remains widely practiced throughout Europe and the Americas.

What makes Catholicism unique from all other Christian religions if the richness of its living tradition. With the sacraments, saints, rituals, prayers, retreats, monasteries, councils, encyclicals, bulls, et cetera the Catholic Church provides a full and varied spiritual life that ranges the entire spectrum of religion. The Church is fully composed of those still alive striving for heaven(Ecclesia Milites) and those who have already attained it, namely the Saints(Ecclesia Triumphans)

Some useful links for Catholics and those interested in the Ecclesia Universa, The Catholic Catechism, The Catholic Encyclopedia, and Summa Theologica by Saint Thomas Aquinas.

Catholic Clergy and Laypeople of Note

The Pope
Current: John Paul II
Full Title: His Holiness, Pope John Paul II, Vicar of Christ, Pontifex Maximus, Servant of the Servants, Successor of St. Peter, Bishop of Rome
Jurisdiction: Universe
Diocese: Rome

The Primate of Eutopia
Current: Immanuel Silberfel
Address: Your Eminence, Immanuel Silberfel, Cardinal-Archbishop of New Schleswig, Bishop of Hannover
Jurisdiction: Eutopia
Archdiocese: New Schleswig
Diocese: Hannover

Sacraments of the Catholic Church

Baptism - First Sacrament of Initiation

"Holy Baptism holds the first place among the sacraments, because it is the door of the spiritual life; for by it we are made members of Christ and incorporated with the Church. And since through the first man death entered into all, unless we be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, we can not enter into the kingdom of Heaven, as Truth Himself has told us. The matter of this sacrament is true and natural water; and it is indifferent whether it be cold or hot. The form is: I baptize thee in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. We do not, however, deny that the words: Let this servant of Christ be baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost; or: This person is baptized by my hands in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, constitute true baptism; because since the principal cause from which baptism has its efficacy is the Holy Trinity, and the instrumental cause is the minister who confers the sacrament exteriorly, then if the act exercised by the minister be expressed, together with the invocation of the Holy Trinity, the sacrament is perfected. The minister of this sacrament is the priest, to whom it belongs to baptize, by reason of his office, In case of necessity, however, not only a priest or deacon, but even a layman or woman, nay, even a pagan or heretic can baptize, provided he observes the form used by the Church, and intends to perform what the Church performs. The effect of this sacrament is the remission of all sin, original and actual; likewise of all punishment which is due for sin. As a consequence, no satisfaction for past sins is enjoined upon those who are baptized; and if they die before they commit any sin, they attain immediately to the kingdom of heaven and the vision of God." - Council of Florence

Eucharist - Second Sacrament of Initiation

Celebrated regularly through the Mass, the Eucharist is recieved in two forms, bread and wine, body and blood. Wheat bread and wine is transubstantiated during the Mass by God into the body and blood of Christ, then the congregation partakes of it in memory of the first Mass, the Last Supper. By participating in this sacrament, we reconfirm our allegiance to God, by imitating the Apostles and are strengthened with God's charismata or grace.

Confirmation - Third Sacrament of Initiation

Through this last and final sacrament, only capable of being taken by a rational adult, a Catholic confirms for all time his membership in the Church of Christ, becoming a Soldier of God. Confirmation imparts an increase of sanctifying grace which makes the recipient a "perfect Christian"; a special sacramental grace consisting in the seven gifts of the Holy Ghost and notably in the strength and courage to confess boldly the name of Christ; an indelible character by reason of which the sacrament cannot be received again by the same person. Oftentimes, adults receive all three of the sacraments of initiation at once.

Reconciliation - Also Penance or Confession

Perhaps one of the most therapeutic sacraments, by willingly searching ones conscience and bringing oneself to outwardly confess ones faults one is able to surmount ones faults through God's forgiveness and grace. Some important things to remember that penance is not a mere human invention devised by the Church to secure power over consciences or to relieve the emotional strain of troubled souls; it is the ordinary means appointed by Christ for the remission of sin. Man indeed is free to obey or disobey, but once he has sinned, he must seek pardon not on conditions of his own choosing but on those which God has determined, and these for the Christian are embodied in the Sacrament of Penance. No Catholic believes that a priest simply as an individual man, however pious or learned, has power to forgive sins. This power belongs to God alone; but He can and does exercise it through the ministration of men. Since He has seen fit to exercise it by means of this sacrament, it cannot be said that the Church or the priest interferes between the soul and God; on the contrary, penance is the removal of the one obstacle that keeps the soul away from God. It is not true that for the Catholic the mere "telling of one's sins" suffices to obtain their forgiveness. Without sincere sorrow and purpose of amendment, confession avails nothing, the pronouncement of absolution is of no effect, and the guilt of the sinner is greater than before. While this sacrament as a dispensation of Divine mercy facilitates the pardoning of sin, it by no means renders sin less hateful or its consequences less dreadful to the Christian mind; much less does it imply permission to commit sin in the future. In paying ordinary debts, as e.g., by monthly settlements, the intention of contracting new debts with the same creditor is perfectly legitimate; a similar intention on the part of him who confesses his sins would not only be wrong in itself but would nullify the sacrament and prevent the forgiveness of sins then and there confessed. Strangely enough, the opposite charge is often heard, viz., that the confession of sin is intolerable and hard and therefore alien to the spirit of Christianity and the loving kindness of its Founder. But this view, in the first place, overlooks the fact that Christ, though merciful, is also just and exacting. Furthermore, however painful or humiliating confession may be, it is but a light penalty for the violation of God's law. Finally, those who are in earnest about their salvation count no hardship too great whereby they can win back God's friendship. (Catholic Encyclopedia)

Annointing of the Sick

Matrimony

Holy Orders

Bagricula · 05-01-2003, 03:55

Organization of the Clergy and Laypeople of the Catholic Church in Eutopia

Key:
Clergy is in normal font
Laypeople are in italics
Archdioceses are in firebrick
Dioceses are in orange
Parishes are in gold

Archdiocese of Jacobia
~~~Diocese of Harton
~~~Diocese of Dunwich
~~~Diocese of Gilford
~~~Diocese of Kirby
Archdiocese of New Lancaster
~~~Diocese of New Lancaster City
~~~Diocese of Douglas
~~~~~~St. Joseph's Cathedral
~~~~~~~Kevin Simon
~~~Diocese of Uxbridge
~~~Diocese of Landfall
Archdiocese of Gloriana
~~~Diocese of Witney
~~~Diocese of Huntington
~~~Diocese of Spalding
Archdiocese of St. Brendan
~~~Diocese of St. Brendanstown
~~~Diocese of Wrexford
~~~Diocese of Derry
~~~~~~St. Patrick's Church
~~~~~~~Craig Lyons
Archdiocese of New Schleswig
~Archbishop Immanuel Silberfel
~~~Diocese of Neuwestbaden
~~~Diocese of Heorot
~~~Diocese of Hafnia
~~~Diocese of Hannover
~~~~Bishop Immanuel Silberfel
~~~~~~Church of the Annunciation
~~~~~~~Father Immanuel Silberfel
~~~~~~~Vangeel de Lichtaart-Kempen
~~~Diocese of Tabor
~~~Diocese of Eutopia City
Archdiocese of Nouvelle Anjou
~~~Diocese of Chateauvallon
~~~Diocese of Villefranche
~~~Diocese of Eauze
~~~Diocese of Rochefort
~~~Diocese of Castellar
Archdiocese of Nouvelle Aquitaine
~~~Diocese of Hurteau
~~~Diocese of Verneuil
~~~Diocese of Montaigu
~~~Diocese of Grandville
Archdiocese of Saint-Esprit
~~~Diocese of Fort-aux-Francais
~~~Diocese of Philippeville
~~~Diocese of Castries
Archdiocese of Isabela
~~~Diocese of Buen Puerto
~~~Diocese of Capistrano
~~~Diocese of Matamoros
Archdiocese of Nueva Rioja
~~~Diocese of San Martin de Porres
~~~Diocese of Nueva Córdoba

Bagricula · 05-01-2003, 03:57

(OOC: Reserved 2)

Bagricula · 05-01-2003, 03:59

(Reserved 3)

Bagricula · 05-01-2003, 04:00

(Just in case...oh, if you want to be officially a member of the Church...that includes deacons, priests, monsignors, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, abbots, monks, nuns, as well as many lay people. Any and all people can be Catholic, and should register here with the parish they belong to and its diocese, unless they want me to make up a church for them to attend. Some lay or clerical positions open for working for the Church would involve legal council, theologian, finiancial manager, deans, provosts, principles, teachers...the church funds many schools. Those interested in being bishops must specify a parish church they will be saying mass in regularly. Those interested in being archbishops must specify a bishopric and a parish. Cardinals must be archbishops as well.)

AncientPharaoh · 05-01-2003, 17:02

[OOC] Ah, yay, next we'll need an inquisition for those silly Anglicans

[/OOC]

I attend mass at St. Josephs Cathedral in Douglas. Beautiful place that is.

Bagricula · 05-01-2003, 19:26

The chartophylax makes a note in the ledger and smiles.

(OOC: Is your character's name AncientPharaoh?)

AncientPharaoh · 05-01-2003, 21:18

[OOC] It's Kevin Simon, aka AncientPharaoh aka Ap. [/OOC]

::shhhh:: Nobody ever expects an inquisition by the Catholic Church...we don't them to think somethings up.

::whistles::

heagarty · 06-01-2003, 03:29

Greetings Bishop Immanuel Silberfel,

Welcome to the Eutopian community of faith. I am heartened by your efforts to draw more people into the loving knowledge of our savior Jesus Christ.

I look forward to working together on issues of common concern.

Yours in Christ,

Very Rev. Jack Teano
Church of the Epiphany
New Aquitaine Diocese
Anglican Church of Eutopia

heagarty · 09-01-2003, 04:47

Dear Cardinal Silberfel,

You may or may not be aware of the debate occurring as the Eutopian Bar Association works to draft a model charter of rights. One item that has become a hot topic of discussion is whether the preamble to such a document can reference the acknowledgement of God or even a respect for a higher moral authority.

As a partner in the Ecumenical Council of the Churches of Eutopia, I would welcome you to make your opinion heard on this topic if you so wish. I am greatly disheartened by the demand that our government completely eliminate any reference to a greater diety, despite the historical faith of this nation's founders.

While we certainly hold involiable the right of each individual to follow their own faith, we do not believe that freedom of religion means the abolition of any reference to faith in the public sphere.

Thank you for any wisdom you can lend in this debate.

Yours in Christ,

Very Rev. Jack Teano
Church of the Epiphany
New Aquitaine Diocese
Anglican Church of Eutopia

Craig · 09-01-2003, 06:14

Yes, Finally! As a Catholic, I will support the church in any way I can. God is with us!

Royalist · 11-01-2003, 19:53

Lord Vangeel de Lichtaart-Kempen and his family have attended the mess, as they do every week. After the ceremony, he goes to the Bishops and gives him an enveloppe, for the Catholic Community of Eutopia. He also expresses his hopes on the Restauration of the Monarchy.

Bagricula · 13-01-2003, 06:28

(OOC: Craig, could you give me the name of your character and the parish he's in. Lord Vangeel de Lichtaart-Kempen are you in Immanuel Silberfel's parish? If you don't want to pick a parish, please at least specify the region you live in or diocese so I can make up a suitable one for you two. Thanks for dropping by)

05-01-2003, 03:55	#1
Bagricula Corporal Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Just Left of the Center of the Universe Posts: 26	Roman Catholic Church of Eutopia The Roman Catholic Church of Eutopia *Salvete Fratres Sororesque in Christe!* Or for those of you not trained in Latin, "Welcome brothers and sisters in Christ!" The Roman Catholic Church is the original Christian Church founded by the Apostles, most notably Petrus or Peter. It is called "Roman" because its seat of doctrinal authority rests in Rome. It is called "Catholic" because it is a universal church that embraces all of humanity. The oldest and largest branch of Christianity, Catholicism is the trunk from which all other Christian sects have grown. It remains widely practiced throughout Europe and the Americas. What makes Catholicism unique from all other Christian religions if the richness of its living tradition. With the sacraments, saints, rituals, prayers, retreats, monasteries, councils, encyclicals, bulls, et cetera the Catholic Church provides a full and varied spiritual life that ranges the entire spectrum of religion. The Church is fully composed of those still alive striving for heaven(Ecclesia Milites) and those who have already attained it, namely the Saints(Ecclesia Triumphans) Some useful links for Catholics and those interested in the Ecclesia Universa, The Catholic Catechism, The Catholic Encyclopedia, and Summa Theologica by Saint Thomas Aquinas. Catholic Clergy and Laypeople of Note The Pope Current: John Paul II Full Title: His Holiness, Pope John Paul II, Vicar of Christ, Pontifex Maximus, Servant of the Servants, Successor of St. Peter, Bishop of Rome Jurisdiction: Universe Diocese: Rome The Primate of Eutopia Current: Immanuel Silberfel Address: Your Eminence, Immanuel Silberfel, Cardinal-Archbishop of New Schleswig, Bishop of Hannover Jurisdiction: Eutopia Archdiocese: New Schleswig Diocese: Hannover Sacraments of the Catholic Church Baptism - First Sacrament of Initiation "Holy Baptism holds the first place among the sacraments, because it is the door of the spiritual life; for by it we are made members of Christ and incorporated with the Church. And since through the first man death entered into all, unless we be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, we can not enter into the kingdom of Heaven, as Truth Himself has told us. The matter of this sacrament is true and natural water; and it is indifferent whether it be cold or hot. The form is: I baptize thee in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. We do not, however, deny that the words: Let this servant of Christ be baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost; or: This person is baptized by my hands in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, constitute true baptism; because since the principal cause from which baptism has its efficacy is the Holy Trinity, and the instrumental cause is the minister who confers the sacrament exteriorly, then if the act exercised by the minister be expressed, together with the invocation of the Holy Trinity, the sacrament is perfected. The minister of this sacrament is the priest, to whom it belongs to baptize, by reason of his office, In case of necessity, however, not only a priest or deacon, but even a layman or woman, nay, even a pagan or heretic can baptize, provided he observes the form used by the Church, and intends to perform what the Church performs. The effect of this sacrament is the remission of all sin, original and actual; likewise of all punishment which is due for sin. As a consequence, no satisfaction for past sins is enjoined upon those who are baptized; and if they die before they commit any sin, they attain immediately to the kingdom of heaven and the vision of God." - Council of Florence Eucharist - Second Sacrament of Initiation Celebrated regularly through the Mass, the Eucharist is recieved in two forms, bread and wine, body and blood. Wheat bread and wine is transubstantiated during the Mass by God into the body and blood of Christ, then the congregation partakes of it in memory of the first Mass, the Last Supper. By participating in this sacrament, we reconfirm our allegiance to God, by imitating the Apostles and are strengthened with God's charismata or grace. Confirmation - Third Sacrament of Initiation Through this last and final sacrament, only capable of being taken by a rational adult, a Catholic confirms for all time his membership in the Church of Christ, becoming a Soldier of God. Confirmation imparts an increase of sanctifying grace which makes the recipient a "perfect Christian"; a special sacramental grace consisting in the seven gifts of the Holy Ghost and notably in the strength and courage to confess boldly the name of Christ; an indelible character by reason of which the sacrament cannot be received again by the same person. Oftentimes, adults receive all three of the sacraments of initiation at once. Reconciliation - Also Penance or Confession Perhaps one of the most therapeutic sacraments, by willingly searching ones conscience and bringing oneself to outwardly confess ones faults one is able to surmount ones faults through God's forgiveness and grace. Some important things to remember that penance is not a mere human invention devised by the Church to secure power over consciences or to relieve the emotional strain of troubled souls; it is the ordinary means appointed by Christ for the remission of sin. Man indeed is free to obey or disobey, but once he has sinned, he must seek pardon not on conditions of his own choosing but on those which God has determined, and these for the Christian are embodied in the Sacrament of Penance. No Catholic believes that a priest simply as an individual man, however pious or learned, has power to forgive sins. This power belongs to God alone; but He can and does exercise it through the ministration of men. Since He has seen fit to exercise it by means of this sacrament, it cannot be said that the Church or the priest interferes between the soul and God; on the contrary, penance is the removal of the one obstacle that keeps the soul away from God. It is not true that for the Catholic the mere "telling of one's sins" suffices to obtain their forgiveness. Without sincere sorrow and purpose of amendment, confession avails nothing, the pronouncement of absolution is of no effect, and the guilt of the sinner is greater than before. While this sacrament as a dispensation of Divine mercy facilitates the pardoning of sin, it by no means renders sin less hateful or its consequences less dreadful to the Christian mind; much less does it imply permission to commit sin in the future. In paying ordinary debts, as e.g., by monthly settlements, the intention of contracting new debts with the same creditor is perfectly legitimate; a similar intention on the part of him who confesses his sins would not only be wrong in itself but would nullify the sacrament and prevent the forgiveness of sins then and there confessed. Strangely enough, the opposite charge is often heard, viz., that the confession of sin is intolerable and hard and therefore alien to the spirit of Christianity and the loving kindness of its Founder. But this view, in the first place, overlooks the fact that Christ, though merciful, is also just and exacting. Furthermore, however painful or humiliating confession may be, it is but a light penalty for the violation of God's law. Finally, those who are in earnest about their salvation count no hardship too great whereby they can win back God's friendship. (Catholic Encyclopedia) Annointing of the Sick Matrimony Holy Orders __________________ "He who controls the sea, controls the spice, and he who controls the spice, controls the wealth of the world!" Appearing as the Most Serene Republic of St. Mark in the Baroque RPG Last edited by Bagricula; 05-01-2003 at 08:46.

05-01-2003, 03:55	#2
Bagricula Corporal Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Just Left of the Center of the Universe Posts: 26	Organization of the Clergy and Laypeople of the Catholic Church in Eutopia Key: Clergy is in normal font Laypeople are in italics Archdioceses are in firebrick Dioceses are in orange Parishes are in gold Archdiocese of Jacobia ~~~Diocese of Harton ~~~Diocese of Dunwich ~~~Diocese of Gilford ~~~Diocese of Kirby Archdiocese of New Lancaster ~~~Diocese of New Lancaster City ~~~Diocese of Douglas ~~~~~~St. Joseph's Cathedral ~~~~~~~Kevin Simon ~~~Diocese of Uxbridge ~~~Diocese of Landfall Archdiocese of Gloriana ~~~Diocese of Witney ~~~Diocese of Huntington ~~~Diocese of Spalding Archdiocese of St. Brendan ~~~Diocese of St. Brendanstown ~~~Diocese of Wrexford ~~~Diocese of Derry ~~~~~~St. Patrick's Church ~~~~~~~Craig Lyons Archdiocese of New Schleswig ~Archbishop Immanuel Silberfel ~~~Diocese of Neuwestbaden ~~~Diocese of Heorot ~~~Diocese of Hafnia ~~~Diocese of Hannover ~~~~Bishop Immanuel Silberfel ~~~~~~Church of the Annunciation ~~~~~~~Father Immanuel Silberfel ~~~~~~~Vangeel de Lichtaart-Kempen ~~~Diocese of Tabor ~~~Diocese of Eutopia City Archdiocese of Nouvelle Anjou ~~~Diocese of Chateauvallon ~~~Diocese of Villefranche ~~~Diocese of Eauze ~~~Diocese of Rochefort ~~~Diocese of Castellar Archdiocese of Nouvelle Aquitaine ~~~Diocese of Hurteau ~~~Diocese of Verneuil ~~~Diocese of Montaigu ~~~Diocese of Grandville Archdiocese of Saint-Esprit ~~~Diocese of Fort-aux-Francais ~~~Diocese of Philippeville ~~~Diocese of Castries Archdiocese of Isabela ~~~Diocese of Buen Puerto ~~~Diocese of Capistrano ~~~Diocese of Matamoros Archdiocese of Nueva Rioja ~~~Diocese of San Martin de Porres ~~~Diocese of Nueva Córdoba __________________ "He who controls the sea, controls the spice, and he who controls the spice, controls the wealth of the world!" Appearing as the Most Serene Republic of St. Mark in the Baroque RPG Last edited by Bagricula; 19-01-2003 at 05:53.

05-01-2003, 03:57	#3
Bagricula Corporal Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Just Left of the Center of the Universe Posts: 26	(OOC: Reserved 2) __________________ "He who controls the sea, controls the spice, and he who controls the spice, controls the wealth of the world!" Appearing as the Most Serene Republic of St. Mark in the Baroque RPG Last edited by Bagricula; 05-01-2003 at 06:46.

05-01-2003, 03:59	#4
Bagricula Corporal Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Just Left of the Center of the Universe Posts: 26	(Reserved 3) __________________ "He who controls the sea, controls the spice, and he who controls the spice, controls the wealth of the world!" Appearing as the Most Serene Republic of St. Mark in the Baroque RPG

05-01-2003, 04:00	#5
Bagricula Corporal Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Just Left of the Center of the Universe Posts: 26	(Just in case...oh, if you want to be officially a member of the Church...that includes deacons, priests, monsignors, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, abbots, monks, nuns, as well as many lay people. Any and all people can be Catholic, and should register here with the parish they belong to and its diocese, unless they want me to make up a church for them to attend. Some lay or clerical positions open for working for the Church would involve legal council, theologian, finiancial manager, deans, provosts, principles, teachers...the church funds many schools. Those interested in being bishops must specify a parish church they will be saying mass in regularly. Those interested in being archbishops must specify a bishopric and a parish. Cardinals must be archbishops as well.) __________________ "He who controls the sea, controls the spice, and he who controls the spice, controls the wealth of the world!" Appearing as the Most Serene Republic of St. Mark in the Baroque RPG Last edited by Bagricula; 05-01-2003 at 06:41.

05-01-2003, 17:02	#6
AncientPharaoh [Something Hilarious] Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 425	[OOC] Ah, yay, next we'll need an inquisition for those silly Anglicans [/OOC] I attend mass at St. Josephs Cathedral in Douglas. Beautiful place that is.

05-01-2003, 19:26	#7
Bagricula Corporal Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Just Left of the Center of the Universe Posts: 26	The chartophylax makes a note in the ledger and smiles. (OOC: Is your character's name AncientPharaoh?) __________________ "He who controls the sea, controls the spice, and he who controls the spice, controls the wealth of the world!" Appearing as the Most Serene Republic of St. Mark in the Baroque RPG

05-01-2003, 21:18	#8
AncientPharaoh [Something Hilarious] Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 425	[OOC] It's Kevin Simon, aka AncientPharaoh aka Ap. [/OOC] ::shhhh:: Nobody ever expects an inquisition by the Catholic Church...we don't them to think somethings up. ::whistles::

06-01-2003, 03:29	#9
heagarty Who? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: on location Posts: 2,162	Greetings Bishop Immanuel Silberfel, Welcome to the Eutopian community of faith. I am heartened by your efforts to draw more people into the loving knowledge of our savior Jesus Christ. I look forward to working together on issues of common concern. Yours in Christ, Very Rev. Jack Teano Church of the Epiphany New Aquitaine Diocese Anglican Church of Eutopia __________________ "Brevity is....wit" The only AAR I still take credit for: Can Morbidly Obese Bavarians Conquer China? Tales of the Gluttonic Knights! (OscAAR Winner!) Maps My musical link-try it.

09-01-2003, 04:47	#10
heagarty Who? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: on location Posts: 2,162	Dear Cardinal Silberfel, You may or may not be aware of the debate occurring as the Eutopian Bar Association works to draft a model charter of rights. One item that has become a hot topic of discussion is whether the preamble to such a document can reference the acknowledgement of God or even a respect for a higher moral authority. As a partner in the Ecumenical Council of the Churches of Eutopia, I would welcome you to make your opinion heard on this topic if you so wish. I am greatly disheartened by the demand that our government completely eliminate any reference to a greater diety, despite the historical faith of this nation's founders. While we certainly hold involiable the right of each individual to follow their own faith, we do not believe that freedom of religion means the abolition of any reference to faith in the public sphere. Thank you for any wisdom you can lend in this debate. Yours in Christ, Very Rev. Jack Teano Church of the Epiphany New Aquitaine Diocese Anglican Church of Eutopia __________________ "Brevity is....wit" The only AAR I still take credit for: Can Morbidly Obese Bavarians Conquer China? Tales of the Gluttonic Knights! (OscAAR Winner!) Maps My musical link-try it.

09-01-2003, 06:14	#11
Craig Second Lieutenant Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 134	Yes, Finally! As a Catholic, I will support the church in any way I can. God is with us! __________________ Wir Deutsche furchten Gott und sonst nichts auf der welt.

11-01-2003, 19:53	#12
Royalist Captain Join Date: May 2001 Location: Kingdom of Belgium Posts: 337	Lord Vangeel de Lichtaart-Kempen and his family have attended the mess, as they do every week. After the ceremony, he goes to the Bishops and gives him an enveloppe, for the Catholic Community of Eutopia. He also expresses his hopes on the Restauration of the Monarchy. __________________ www.belgischeunie.be

13-01-2003, 06:28	#13
Bagricula Corporal Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Just Left of the Center of the Universe Posts: 26	(OOC: Craig, could you give me the name of your character and the parish he's in. Lord Vangeel de Lichtaart-Kempen are you in Immanuel Silberfel's parish? If you don't want to pick a parish, please at least specify the region you live in or diocese so I can make up a suitable one for you two. Thanks for dropping by) __________________ "He who controls the sea, controls the spice, and he who controls the spice, controls the wealth of the world!" Appearing as the Most Serene Republic of St. Mark in the Baroque RPG