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Culinary events.
A nation lives from its stomach. While they may sound silly and trivial, it is amazing how much effect culinary issues can have. Some old suggestions I made on another forum for consideration:
EventName: First printed cookbook Date: 1475 Country: Venice Description: Bartolomeo de Sacchi di Piadena (aka "Platina") has published De honesta voluptate (in Latin), the first cookbook printed using moveable type. It was soon translated into German, Italian, and French. Suggested Effect: +50 domestic investment. All European countries have +5 relation modifier with Venice. EventName: Haute Cuisine comes to France Date: 1533 Country: France Description: Catherine di Medici brings expert chefs and exotic foodstuffs to France with her when she marries Dauphin Henri (later Henri II of France). Suggested Effect: +50 investment in domestic. +5 relation with Florence. EventName: Le Cuisinier Francois Date: 1650 Country: France Description: If one man can be credited with taking the cookery that came from Catherine di Medici's chefs and making it FRENCH, it is Francois Pierre de la Varenne. His work was the first fully systematic cookbook. It went through 250 editions and was in print up to 1815. Suggested Effect: +100 domestic investment. All European countries have +10 relation modifier with France. EventName: "The Art of Cookery" Date: 1747 Country: England Description: Hannah Glasse write's Britain's first native-made systematic cookbook. Unlike French works, this is aimed at the common housewife and is filled with practical advice. Suggested Effect: +100 domestic investment. EventName: "The Frugal Housewife" Date: 1772 Country: England Description: The next great contribution to English cookbooks was by Susannah Carter. She continued in the tradition begun by Hannah Glass. Suggested Effect: +100 domestic investment. EventName: Pizza! Date: Approx 1775-1800 Country: Naples Description: While the first commercial pizzaria opened in 1830 (and is open to the present day), all the elements for pizza first came together in the vicinity of Naples in the late 18th century. Suggested Effect: I haven't the faintest idea. EventName: Pasta becomes a common food Date: 1610-1650 Country: Naples, Sicilia, Romagna, etc. Description: In the early 17th century, pasta ceased being a luxury item (due to the expense of durum wheat) and became a common staple of the ordinary diet. Suggested Effect: +100 Domestic Investment (reflects better peasant diet) EventName: Sugar Cane Mills Date: 1509 Country: Spanish colonies in America Description: The first sugar cane mill in the Americas is built. Suggested Effect: Increased demand for sugarcane. EventName: Chocolate! Date: 1519 Country: Spain Description: Hernan Cortes brings back the ingredients and method for making a new beverage to the Spanish court. It becomes quite popular. Suggested Effect: Increased demand for Chocolate. EventName: Tomatoes reach Europe Date: 1554 Country: Spain Description: One of the many plants brought back from the Americas to Europe, the tomato revolutionizes European cuisine across the Mediterranean, especially in Italy. Suggested Effect: +100 domestic investment in Spain (to reflect improved peasant diet). +250 domestic investment in Naples and Sicily 10 years later (to reflect wholesale adoption of the tomato). EventName: Kaffe in Constantinople. Date: 1550 Country: Eastern Roman Empire Description: The first known coffeehouse in Europe is open in Constantinople. Suggested Effect: Increased demand for coffee. EventName: Spuds in Spain Date: 1573 Country: Spain Description: The potato is first cultivated in spain. This soon becomes a staple of peasant diets acrosss Europe. Suggested Effect: Increased population capacity in Spain's provinces. This ultimately spreads to the rest of Europe. EventName: Time for Tea, mum. Date: 1600 Country: England Description: If any non-alcoholic beverage is associated with England, it is tea. The British East India Company was instrumental in making this so. Suggested Effect: Increased demand for tea. EventName: Moutard. Date: 1634 Country: France Description: Long known for the excellence of its mustards, Dijon is granted an exclusive license for its particular style. Suggested Effect: Increased trade and production value for Dijon province. EventName: Coffee enters the West Date: 1644 Country: Papal States Description: A Frenchman named La Royne opens a coffeehouse in Italy. This Turkish drink is given bad press until Pope Vincent III tastes it and orders that the marvelous substance be baptized at once. Suggested Effect: Demand for coffee increases. EventName: London's first coffeehouse Date: 1652 Country: England. Description: England gets her first coffeehouse, which serves coffee, chocolate, and tobacco. Suggested Effect: Increased demand for coffee, chocolate, and tobacco. EventName: Edward Lloyd's Coffeehouse Date: 1668 Country: England Description: Edward Lloyd opens his coffeehouse. It becomes a gathering place for merchants and financiers, since Mr. Lloyd becomes a trusted source for shipping information. This lays the foundation of modern shipping insurance. Suggested Effect: +500 investment in trade. EventName: Cafe du Paris Date: 1672 Country: France Description: Paris jumps onto the Coffee bandwagon and gets her first coffeehouse. Suggested Effect: Increased demand for coffee, chocolate, and tobacco. EventName: Proper Modern Coffee Date: 1675 Country: Austria Description: When the Turks abandon their siege of Vienna, they leave behind sacks of "dry black fodder", which Franz Kolschitzky recognizes as coffee. He opens Austria's first coffeehouse and invents the process of filtering the grounds out and adding milk and sugar. Suggested Effect: Increased demand for coffee. EventName: Dutch Steal Coffee Date: 1690 Country: Netherlands Description: Dutch merchants smuggle a coffee plant out of the Arab port of Mocha. They use this to start coffee plantations in Ceylon and Java. Suggested Effect: Sale price of coffee reduced (demand not affected). East Asian provinces now able to produce coffee. (Before this time, coffee was only grown in the Middle East.) EventName: France Steals Coffee Date: 1723 Country: French American colonies Description: Gabriel du Clieu plants America's first coffee in the French colony of Martinique. All Western-hemisphere coffee is descended from this planting. Suggested Effect: French colonies in Americas can now have the coffee resource. EventName: Portugal Steals Coffee Date: 1727 Country: Portugal (Brazil) Description: Lt. Col. Francisco de Melo Palheta smuggles coffee from French Guiana to Brazil. Suggested Effect: Portuguese American colonies can now produce coffee. EventName: Fred Goofs Date: 1775 Country: Prussia Description: Frederick the Great attempts to ban retail sale of green coffee beans. Public outcry reverses this decision. Suggested Effect: -1 stability, +5% chance of revolt for a year in all Prussian provinces. EventName: "Les Delices de la Campagne" Date: 1654 Country: France Description: Nicolas de Bonnefons publishes this seminal work in French cuisine. From this point, onwards, France reduces reliance upon the very heavily spiced dishes that had made up medieval and Renaissance cuisine. As France is the center of European culture, this practice spreads. Suggested Effect: Demand for spices drops. EventName: Twining's Tea House Date: 1717 Country: England Description: Thomas Twinings opens his "Tea House for Ladies" in London. Suggested Effect: Increased demand for tea. EventName: Franklin Stove Date: 1742 Country: English colony in America Description: Benjamin Franklin invents a new type of free-standing stove. It forms the fundamental basis for other free-standing heat devices. Suggested Effect: +200 technology investment. EventName: Dried Pasta for sale. Date: 1763 Country: Parma Description: Stefano Lucciardi is granted a 10-year monopoly on the production of dried pasta. Suggested Effect: +100 ducats EventName: Oranges in California Date: 1769 Country: Spanish colonies in North America Description: Orange cultivation first begins in California, providing citrus fruit to these regions. Suggested Effect: Population increase in California-area provinces. EventName: Canning Developed Date: 1810 Country: France Description: In response to a French army sponsored competition, Nicolas Appert invents the process of pressure canning (using champagne bottles). Suggested Effect: +100 land, +100 Domestic. EventName: Boston Coffee Exchange Date: 1804 Country: USA Description: The Boston Coffee Exchange (actually a hotel) is opened and becomes an extensive headquarters for trade in the young USA. Suggested Effect: +250 mercantile investment.
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I fully support your events, but perhaps the modifiers are to great when compared the "real" event. How about some of them lowering revoltrisk by 1 for 3-6 months? Just as an alternative to a infrastructure bonus.
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I agree with Sute]{h, the events are fine but perhaps the effects are too great. On the other hand, as far as I know some effects you suggest are, unfortunately, not possible to implement (like increasing or lowering demand of the products, or changing the provinces main product).
The next step is to script them... anybody? ![]() Good work, Dogface !
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The effects were just thrown in as a first bracket fire. I still say that some of them should be worth a +1 relations with other countries.
And the establishment of Lloyd's of London really should be worth something substantial...
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I have heard it said that the drinking of tea and coffee gave a quantifyable boost to life expectancy because boiling water kills germs so they could give a population boost.
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I've got three more or less "culinary" events, all dealing with Bavaria and beer.
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#The Reinheitsgebot of 1516
event = {
id = 666201
random = no
country = BAY
name = "The Reinheitsgebot for beer"
desc = "On April 23rd 1516 Wilhelm IV of Bavaria issued the first regulation of grocery in the world, the Reinheitsgebot (purity law) for beer. In this law exact prices and taxation for all known kinds of beer, and, most importantly, the allowed contents of Bavarian beer are regulated. The Duke allowed to put nothing but water, malt and hops into beer, intending to make sure that there would be no more additional spices and, especially, no 'good' grain that could be used for bread instead in the beverage. Yeast, although an obviously necessary ingredient, was not mentioned because it was not known then that it took part in the fermentation process (the substance was discovered in the 19th century by Louis Pasteur). The beer law soon raised the quality standard of beer significantly and it became exemplary for the whole of Germany; many German princes adapted a similar regulation in the next centuries. When Germany was united in 1871, the Bavarians made the introduction of their beer purity law in the whole empire one of their conditions for joining, and a similar statute is still valid in Germany today."
style = 2
date = { day = 23 month = april year = 1516 }
action_a = {
name = "Pass the beer purity law"
command = { type = domestic which = mercantilism value = 1
command = { type = infra value = 50 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Don't regulate beer brewery"
command = { type = relation which = -1 value = -10 }
}
}
#The Hofbräuhaus is opened (text from the homepage of the Hofbräuhaus, www.hofbraeuhaus.de)
event = {
id = 666202
random = no
country = BAY
name = "The establishment of the Hofbräuhaus"
desc = "Duke Wilhelm V the Pious of Bavaria wass plagued by two problems: First, the construction of the St. Michael’s Church in Munich which he donated to the Jesuits had swallowed so much money that he was as good as bankrupt, and secondly he had the 600-strong thirsty and demanding ducal household. They were so unhappy with the beer brewed in Munich that the city of Einbeck in Lower Saxony had to constantly deliver beer to Munich for maintenance of the ducal thirst. And that was by no means a small amount: Sources speak of '2,000 buckets per year', which by today’s account is at least 1,300 hectolitres! Wilhelm ordered his royal court to figure out how costs and pleasures could be brought into a bearable balance. On September 27th 1589 William's chamber masters and advisors suggested the establishment of a ducal court brewery, that could be built right next to the palace with minimal expense. Wilhelm accepted this plan with great pleasure and even recruited on the same day the master brewer of the Geisenfeld Monastery, Heimeran Pongraz, as planner, developer and first master brewer of the Hofbräuhaus. "
style = 2
date = { day = 27 month = september year = 1589 }
action_a = {
name = "Establish a ducal court brewery"
command = { type = treasury value = -500 }
command = { type = gainmanufactory which = refinery }
command = { type = relation which = HAN value = -20 }
command = { type = infra value = 30 }
}
action_b = {
name = "We don't need it"
command = { type = vp value = -5 }
command = { type = relation which = HAN value = 10 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 666203 } #Hofbräuhaus sells Wheat Beer
}
}
#The Hofbräuhaus sells wheat beer (text from www.hofbraeuhaus.de)
event = {
id = 666203
trigger = { event = 666202 }
random = no
country = BAY
name = "The Hofbräuhaus sells wheat beer"
desc = "Wilhelm’s son and successor Maximilian I had a somewhat different taste in beer from his father and predecessor: He didn’t like the heavy brown beer which at that time was commonly the most popular beverage. The Duke preferred the sparkling, lighter wheat beer. Instead of being brewed only with barley malt, the beer also included a portion of wheat malt, which rendered a titillating, thirst-quenching taste. Duke Maximilian was not only a gourmet, but also a very clever man as far as finances and marketing are concerned. He unceremoniously prohibited all other private brewing sites from brewing wheat beer and thus ensured for himself and his ducal Hofbräuhaus a wheat beer monopoly. This provided a considerable source of income for the ducal court and the brewery."
style = 3
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1602 }
offset = 200
action_a = {
name = "Grant the monopoly for wheat beer to the ducal court brewery"
command = { type = domestic which = mercantilism value = 1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Let the court brewery continue brewing just brown beer"
command = { type = vp value = -1 }
}
}
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These make good flavor events, but wouldn't make them historical. Keep up the ideas.
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I can verify that these events are historical. They did happen in real-world history.
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Dogface,
I really like these events. If you flesh out the text a bit more (a few more facts/details per), I'll script them for you. |
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By and large the suggested effects (-1 revolt risk, +1 province tax value, +1 stability) are much too strong. I think basically small research bonuses and relations boosts are appropriate. Most of dogface's are just about right (for me).
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I believe he meant that while the actual events might be historical their effects might not be. Both the text and the event effects ought to match reality. Well as best possible.
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Re: Culinary events.
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Would anybody volunteer to script these culinary events? Although they are only flavour, they'd certainly add to the game.
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