Which country has the most cultures?

Generalisimo · 29-08-2002, 19:47

original idea of: Josquius

i know Ottoman Empire gets 4 cultures (in Mad King james campaign it gets even more).
ok, here is a condition, they must have three or more. (or do you want "more" only? )
so the list is:

-Ottoman Empire 4
-Austria 4 (5 with the Dutch Rebellion)
-Navarra 4 (3, +1 if you transform into France and have the Dutch Revolt)
-The Knights 4 (starts with 2, +2 from events)
-Venice 3
-Bohemia 3
-Timurids 3
-Byzantium 3
-England 3 (starts with 2, +1 from an event)
-China 3 (starts with 2, +1 from an event)
-Sweden 3 (starts with 2, +1 from an event)
-Novgorod 3 (starts with 2, +1 if you transform into Russia, only Russia get the "The Russian Orthodox Church declared independent of Constantinople")
-Brittany 3 (2, +1 if you transform into France and have the Dutch Revolt)

anymore?
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Summary by Quizzical:
The complete list of countries that start with multiple cultures at the start of the grand campaign:

Four:
Austria (Czech, German, Magyar, Slovak)
Ottoman Empire (Arabic, Greek, Slavonic, Turkish)

Three:
Bohemia (Czech, German, Slovak)
Byzantium (Greek, Italian, Slavonic)
Granada (Arabic, Berber, Iberian)
Navarra (Basque, French, Iberian)
Venice (Greek, Italian, Slavonic)

Two:
Ak Kayanlu (Kurdish, Turkish)
Algiers (Arabic, Berber)
Aragon (Iberian, Italian)
Brittany (French, Gaelic)
Burgandy (Dutch, French)
China (Cantonese, Han)
Duchy of Athens (French, Greek) [French?!]
England (Anglosaxon, French)
Hungary (Magyar, Slovak)
Lorraine (French, German)
Manchu (Han, Manchu)
Novgorod (Russian, Ugric)
Pommern (German, Polish)
Savoy (French, Italian)
Sibir (Altai, Mongol)
Sweden (Scandinavian, Ugric)
The Knights (French, Italian)
Timurid Empire (Afghani, Mongol)

Some cultures are, of course, more useful than others. The most common cultures are:

Altai (75, mostly uncolonized)
Arabic (36)
German (34)
Mongol (28)
French (27)

The rarest cultures are:
Albanian (1)
Armenian (1)
Canary (1)
Maltese (1)
Syrian (1)
Aka (2)
Georgian (2)
Hawaiian (2)
Korean (2)
Kurdish (2)
Sikh (2)
Swiss (2)
Slovak (2)
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Originally posted by DarthMaur:
Manpower of biggest euro cultures:
-German 150
-French 139
-Russian 121
-Italian 92
-Iberian 89
This doesn't include provincial culture changes (Bearn, Sudeten, Granada, Gibraltar)
-Anglosaxon (wales included) 50
-Gaelic 43
-Scandinavian 45
-Ruthenian 40
-Polish 29
-Lithuanian 29
-Slavonic 27
-Dutch 30
-Magyar 16
-Czech 12
-Romanian is 12

All this doesn't take population modifiers into account. Thus, Scandinavia manpower, as Ireland, is smaller in game a bit, unless someone brings those cities population up by colonizing.

nelly644 · 29-08-2002, 19:51

Austria and Venice have 3

Generalisimo · 29-08-2002, 19:56

Quote:

Originally posted by nelly644
Austria and Venice have 3

ok.
now the restriction is that they must have 3 or more.

Update: added Venice and Austria

**Castellon** · 29-08-2002, 19:57

Navarra 3

Barkdreg · 29-08-2002, 19:58

China:
han, cantonese and manchu(event)

**Castellon** · 29-08-2002, 20:02

I think England can end up with 4.

Generalisimo · 29-08-2002, 20:02

ok.
thanks Castellon and Barkdreg

Update: added China and Navarra

Generalisimo · 29-08-2002, 20:04

Quote:

Originally posted by Castellon
I think England can end up with 4.

do you know when?
with how much England starts?

HisMajestyBOB · 29-08-2002, 20:06

England starts with Anglosacon and Franch, gets Dutch and Gaelic later thru events.

Josquius · 29-08-2002, 20:13

Dutch and Gaelic

. Is Gaelic through the Britain event?

Bohemia has 3 I said (Czech, Slovak and German)

HisMajestyBOB · 29-08-2002, 20:17

Gaelic comes from the Act of Union in 1700.
Timurids/Mughals get Mongol, Afghani, Hindi

Venice has Italian, Slavonic, Greek

C.N. · 29-08-2002, 20:22

Sweden starts with 2 (scandinavian & ugric) can get baltic in an event later.

kurtbrian · 29-08-2002, 20:32

Novgorod: russian, Ugric and can get Greek through an event

Quizzical · 29-08-2002, 20:49

The complete list of countries that start with multiple cultures at the start of the grand campaign:

Four:
Austria (Czech, German, Magyar, Slovak)
Ottoman Empire (Arabic, Greek, Slavonic, Turkish)

Three:
Bohemia (Czech, German, Slovak)
Byzantium (Greek, Italian, Slavonic)
Granada (Arabic, Berber, Iberian)
Navarra (Basque, French, Iberian)
Venice (Greek, Italian, Slavonic)

Two:
Ak Kayanlu (Kurdish, Turkish)
Algiers (Arabic, Berber)
Aragon (Iberian, Italian)
Brittany (French, Gaelic)
Burgandy (Dutch, French)
China (Cantonese, Han)
Duchy of Athens (French, Greek) [French?!]
England (Anglosaxon, French)
Hungary (Magyar, Slovak)
Lorraine (French, German)
Manchu (Han, Manchu)
Novgorod (Russian, Ugric)
Pommern (German, Polish)
Savoy (French, Italian)
Sibir (Altai, Mongol)
Sweden (Scandinavian, Ugric)
The Knights (French, Italian)
Timurid Empire (Afghani, Mongol)

Some cultures are, of course, more useful than others. The most common cultures are:

Altai (75, mostly uncolonized)
Arabic (36)
German (34)
Mongol (28)
French (27)

The rarest cultures are:
Albanian (1)
Armenian (1)
Canary (1)
Maltese (1)
Syrian (1)
Aka (2)
Georgian (2)
Hawaiian (2)
Korean (2)
Kurdish (2)
Sikh (2)
Swiss (2)

Total Loss · 29-08-2002, 20:54

Canary? Is that the Canary Islands? If it is, it has to get the prize for the absolute rarest, since it starts the GC as a Castillian colony.

Josquius · 29-08-2002, 20:58

LOL I think of canary men....

So Austria is best for gc culture wise then (europe is more interesting then mid east)

Duchy of Athens has French to do with some messed up thing with its rulers or something.

Where is altai at?

Crazy_Ivan80 · 29-08-2002, 21:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Josquius
LOL I think of canary men....

yeah: dogmen!

canary is from canis: latin for dog

Il Moro · 29-08-2002, 21:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Quizzical

Duchy of Athens (French, Greek) [French?!]

Because during crusades Greece was under French rule, and if I'm not wrong the Ducky of Athens was ruled by frenchman, so is because of this that there's also french as culture.

Lars · 29-08-2002, 21:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Josquius

Where is altai at?

siberian corridor and russian steppes i think

metroncho · 29-08-2002, 22:00

As someone born in the Canaries i wonder what the canary culture is. In fact i was quite surprised when i saw it. We have many cultural diferences with other Spanish, but for sure not more than Portuguese or South American people, who are given iberian culture. Is perhaps all of this related to a love affair with canarian girls of some of the paradox guys?

And about the thread, when England get the Dutch culture?

29-08-2002, 19:47	#1
Generalisimo Fredericus Rex Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ciudad Autónoma de Buenos Aires. Argentina Posts: 9,176	Which country has the most cultures? original idea of: Josquius i know Ottoman Empire gets 4 cultures (in Mad King james campaign it gets even more). ok, here is a condition, they must have three or more. (or do you want "more" only? ) so the list is: -Ottoman Empire 4 -Austria 4 (5 with the Dutch Rebellion) -Navarra 4 (3, +1 if you transform into France and have the Dutch Revolt) -The Knights 4 (starts with 2, +2 from events) -Venice 3 -Bohemia 3 -Timurids 3 -Byzantium 3 -England 3 (starts with 2, +1 from an event) -China 3 (starts with 2, +1 from an event) -Sweden 3 (starts with 2, +1 from an event) -Novgorod 3 (starts with 2, +1 if you transform into Russia, only Russia get the "The Russian Orthodox Church declared independent of Constantinople") -Brittany 3 (2, +1 if you transform into France and have the Dutch Revolt) anymore? ---------------------------------------- Summary by Quizzical: The complete list of countries that start with multiple cultures at the start of the grand campaign: Four: Austria (Czech, German, Magyar, Slovak) Ottoman Empire (Arabic, Greek, Slavonic, Turkish) Three: Bohemia (Czech, German, Slovak) Byzantium (Greek, Italian, Slavonic) Granada (Arabic, Berber, Iberian) Navarra (Basque, French, Iberian) Venice (Greek, Italian, Slavonic) Two: Ak Kayanlu (Kurdish, Turkish) Algiers (Arabic, Berber) Aragon (Iberian, Italian) Brittany (French, Gaelic) Burgandy (Dutch, French) China (Cantonese, Han) Duchy of Athens (French, Greek) [French?!] England (Anglosaxon, French) Hungary (Magyar, Slovak) Lorraine (French, German) Manchu (Han, Manchu) Novgorod (Russian, Ugric) Pommern (German, Polish) Savoy (French, Italian) Sibir (Altai, Mongol) Sweden (Scandinavian, Ugric) The Knights (French, Italian) Timurid Empire (Afghani, Mongol) Some cultures are, of course, more useful than others. The most common cultures are: Altai (75, mostly uncolonized) Arabic (36) German (34) Mongol (28) French (27) The rarest cultures are: Albanian (1) Armenian (1) Canary (1) Maltese (1) Syrian (1) Aka (2) Georgian (2) Hawaiian (2) Korean (2) Kurdish (2) Sikh (2) Swiss (2) Slovak (2) ---------------------------------------- Originally posted by DarthMaur: Manpower of biggest euro cultures: -German 150 -French 139 -Russian 121 -Italian 92 -Iberian 89 This doesn't include provincial culture changes (Bearn, Sudeten, Granada, Gibraltar) -Anglosaxon (wales included) 50 -Gaelic 43 -Scandinavian 45 -Ruthenian 40 -Polish 29 -Lithuanian 29 -Slavonic 27 -Dutch 30 -Magyar 16 -Czech 12 -Romanian is 12 All this doesn't take population modifiers into account. Thus, Scandinavia manpower, as Ireland, is smaller in game a bit, unless someone brings those cities population up by colonizing. Last edited by Generalisimo; 03-10-2002 at 20:01.

29-08-2002, 19:51	#2
nelly644 The Flying Scotsman Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 764	Austria and Venice have 3 __________________ "Peace is absurd: Fascism does not believe in it". - Benito Mussolini

29-08-2002, 19:57	#4
Castellon God's Lightning Bolt! Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Striking near you! Posts: 26,177	Navarra 3 __________________ I have been dealt a good hand in life, now I am just looking for a few more cards! Winner of TOEE POTY 2005

29-08-2002, 19:58	#5
Barkdreg Kaplander Join Date: May 2001 Location: somewhere, behind a desk Posts: 2,619	China: han, cantonese and manchu(event) __________________ The Japanese AARe HIP! the latest bAARkdreg production, starring the mighty Japanese in the Historical Improvement Project. Ended due to savegame failure.

29-08-2002, 20:02	#6
Castellon God's Lightning Bolt! Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Striking near you! Posts: 26,177	I think England can end up with 4. __________________ I have been dealt a good hand in life, now I am just looking for a few more cards! Winner of TOEE POTY 2005

29-08-2002, 20:06	#9
HisMajestyBOB Eukaryote Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 대한민국, 인천 (Incheon, Republic of Korea) Posts: 3,161	England starts with Anglosacon and Franch, gets Dutch and Gaelic later thru events. __________________ "It is as if China went to the prom with one partner, Russia, went home with another, the United States, and then married the latter while wooing its jilted original date as a mistress." - Stephen Kotkin, The Unbalanced Triangle Check out Arsenal of Democracy, an upcoming game using the Hearts of Iron 2 engine! You have lost The Game. Sorry. Number of victims: 16?

29-08-2002, 20:13	#10
Josquius Banned Troll Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: No Place (honest!) Posts: 887	Dutch and Gaelic . Is Gaelic through the Britain event? Bohemia has 3 I said (Czech, Slovak and German)

29-08-2002, 20:17	#11
HisMajestyBOB Eukaryote Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 대한민국, 인천 (Incheon, Republic of Korea) Posts: 3,161	Gaelic comes from the Act of Union in 1700. Timurids/Mughals get Mongol, Afghani, Hindi Venice has Italian, Slavonic, Greek __________________ "It is as if China went to the prom with one partner, Russia, went home with another, the United States, and then married the latter while wooing its jilted original date as a mistress." - Stephen Kotkin, The Unbalanced Triangle Check out Arsenal of Democracy, an upcoming game using the Hearts of Iron 2 engine! You have lost The Game. Sorry. Number of victims: 16?

29-08-2002, 20:22	#12
C.N. Colonel Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland, EU Posts: 1,076	Sweden starts with 2 (scandinavian & ugric) can get baltic in an event later.

29-08-2002, 20:32	#13
kurtbrian Older than dirt Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 9,114	Novgorod: russian, Ugric and can get Greek through an event __________________ Minsc will lead the way with blade and Boot - Boo will take care of the details... - Minsc, famous ranger Man who sits in marmelade, has ass in jam... - Wang, famous shadow warrior

29-08-2002, 20:49	#14
Quizzical Colonel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth, at least on even numbered days starting with T Posts: 918	The complete list of countries that start with multiple cultures at the start of the grand campaign: Four: Austria (Czech, German, Magyar, Slovak) Ottoman Empire (Arabic, Greek, Slavonic, Turkish) Three: Bohemia (Czech, German, Slovak) Byzantium (Greek, Italian, Slavonic) Granada (Arabic, Berber, Iberian) Navarra (Basque, French, Iberian) Venice (Greek, Italian, Slavonic) Two: Ak Kayanlu (Kurdish, Turkish) Algiers (Arabic, Berber) Aragon (Iberian, Italian) Brittany (French, Gaelic) Burgandy (Dutch, French) China (Cantonese, Han) Duchy of Athens (French, Greek) [French?!] England (Anglosaxon, French) Hungary (Magyar, Slovak) Lorraine (French, German) Manchu (Han, Manchu) Novgorod (Russian, Ugric) Pommern (German, Polish) Savoy (French, Italian) Sibir (Altai, Mongol) Sweden (Scandinavian, Ugric) The Knights (French, Italian) Timurid Empire (Afghani, Mongol) Some cultures are, of course, more useful than others. The most common cultures are: Altai (75, mostly uncolonized) Arabic (36) German (34) Mongol (28) French (27) The rarest cultures are: Albanian (1) Armenian (1) Canary (1) Maltese (1) Syrian (1) Aka (2) Georgian (2) Hawaiian (2) Korean (2) Kurdish (2) Sikh (2) Swiss (2) __________________ Free speech is not limited to those who have something intelligent to say. Version 1.06, no mods Completed grand campaigns with: Algiers, Auvergne, Cambodia, Castile/Spain, Cologne, Dakota, Hungary, Hyderabad, Kongo, Mantua, Ragusa, Qara Koyunlu, Wallachia

29-08-2002, 20:54	#15
Total Loss Second Lieutenant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 184	Canary? Is that the Canary Islands? If it is, it has to get the prize for the absolute rarest, since it starts the GC as a Castillian colony.

29-08-2002, 20:58	#16
Josquius Banned Troll Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: No Place (honest!) Posts: 887	LOL I think of canary men.... So Austria is best for gc culture wise then (europe is more interesting then mid east) Duchy of Athens has French to do with some messed up thing with its rulers or something. Where is altai at?

29-08-2002, 22:00	#20
metroncho Zar de Todas las Rusias Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Caprica Posts: 3,186	As someone born in the Canaries i wonder what the canary culture is. In fact i was quite surprised when i saw it. We have many cultural diferences with other Spanish, but for sure not more than Portuguese or South American people, who are given iberian culture. Is perhaps all of this related to a love affair with canarian girls of some of the paradox guys? And about the thread, when England get the Dutch culture? __________________ War. War never changes.