EEP Musha'sha'

Fate · 13-08-2002, 05:10

Well, this thread is pretty much geared towards for the acutal inclusion of the Musha'sha' as a revolter in Basrah, and Awhaz from about 1445 until 1820. The Musha'sha' were in fact independent from 1450 until 1514 (in the EU2 provinces of Awhaz and Basrah) when Persia invaded and conquered them. Even under Persian domination they retained a great deal of independence hence the ability to revolt until 1820. They were a radical Shi'ite sect whose leader and founder bordered on the line of heresey within the Shi'ite religion.

Fate · 13-08-2002, 05:12

Code:

# Musha'sha' #

# Sultans, after 1514 local Musha'sha' governers.#


historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mohammed I"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1400
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1453
	}
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Sultan 'Ali"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1453
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1457
	}
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mohammed I"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1457
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1466
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Sultan Muhsin"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1466
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1500
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Falah"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1500
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1514
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Badran"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1514
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1580
	}
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Sajjad"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1580
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1584
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Zunbur 'Ali"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1584
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1587
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mubarak Khan"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1587
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1616
	}
	DIP = 1
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Vacant"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1616
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1621
	}
	DIP = 1
	ADM = 1
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mansur"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1621
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1624
	}
	DIP = 1
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mohammed II"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1624
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1632
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mansur"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1632
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1643
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Baraka"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1643
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1650
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid 'Ali II"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1650
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1686
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Farajallah"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1686
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1700
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid 'Ali III"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1700
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1707
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid 'Abdallah"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1707
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1715
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid 'Ali III"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1715
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1720
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mohammed III"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1720
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1737
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Farajallah"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1737
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1747
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Muttalib"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1747
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1762
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mawla Judallah"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1762
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1770
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 2
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mawla Isma'il"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1770
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1779
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mawla Muhsin"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1779
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1785
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mawla Mohammed"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1785
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1797
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = ?????? }
	name = "Sayyid Mawla Muttalib I"
	startdate = { 
		year = 1797
	}
	enddate = { 
		year = 1832
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 1
	dormant = no
}

Fate · 13-08-2002, 05:23

The CAL tag is unused, so that tag could be used for the Musha'sha' revolter.

Code:

#Musha'sha'#
CAL = {
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1445 }
	expirydate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }
	minimum = { 508 532 }
	extra = { }
	capital = 508
	group = muslim
	culture = arabic
	religion = shiite
	}

Fate · 13-08-2002, 05:34

Musha'sha' flag and shield:
http://www.geocities.com/medius_aetus/mushasha.html

Fate · 13-08-2002, 05:43

Map of the Basra area in 1450:

http://www.geocities.com/medius_aetus/mushashamap.html

Isaac Brock · 13-08-2002, 15:03

Seems like a really good idea.

Crook · 13-08-2002, 15:45

You might as well get it, as a revolter I assume?

Fate · 13-08-2002, 17:09

Correct.

AlanC9 · 13-08-2002, 17:14

Unless we do an EEP 1492 scenario.

Fate · 08-09-2002, 06:50

*bump*

Fate · 13-02-2003, 02:40

*bump* # 2

Going to get this ready for the 1520 scenario.

chegitz guevara · 13-02-2003, 08:26

How do you decide what stats to give the monarchs? Since the monarchs don't have specific dates attached to them, how does the game switch them?

Fate · 13-02-2003, 13:45

Quote:

How do you decide what stats to give the monarchs?

The first monarchs were the founders of the Musha'sha'id religion, so I figured they were among the most aptly able to rule the country. After 1514 they became a "vassal" state of Persia. Their monarchs quickly get worse, as their governor status slowly fades until they are directly under the heel of central Persian authority.

Quote:

Since the monarchs don't have specific dates attached to them, how does the game switch them?

Since they were governor after 1514, not much in the way of exact dates are avaliable. Anyway, the game is perfectly able to handle just having a year for the monarch death/start date. For example, take a look at a few entries from Chagati Khanate's monarch file:

Quote:

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 07780 }
startdate = {
year = 1418
}
deathdate = {
year = 1421
}
name = "`Uways Khân"
DIP = 3
MIL = 5
ADM = 7
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 07781 }
startdate = {
year = 1421
}
deathdate = {
year = 1425
}
name = "Shîr Muhammad"
DIP = 4
MIL = 6
ADM = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 07782 }
startdate = {
year = 1425
}
deathdate = {
year = 1428
}
name = "`Uways Khân"
DIP = 3
MIL = 5
ADM = 7
}

Karl Martell · 15-02-2003, 19:09

they'll just ascend the throne on January 1st as AFAIK the Byzantium fantasy Emperors do.

13-08-2002, 05:10	#1
Fate Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,082	EEP Musha'sha' Well, this thread is pretty much geared towards for the acutal inclusion of the Musha'sha' as a revolter in Basrah, and Awhaz from about 1445 until 1820. The Musha'sha' were in fact independent from 1450 until 1514 (in the EU2 provinces of Awhaz and Basrah) when Persia invaded and conquered them. Even under Persian domination they retained a great deal of independence hence the ability to revolt until 1820. They were a radical Shi'ite sect whose leader and founder bordered on the line of heresey within the Shi'ite religion. Last edited by Fate; 13-08-2002 at 05:32.

13-08-2002, 15:03	#6
Isaac Brock Field Marshal Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Massachusetts USA Posts: 9,457	Seems like a really good idea. __________________ " Ignoring the root causes of terror, turning a blind eye to the oppression and despair of millions may be easier in the short run, but we learned on September the 11th, if violence and fanaticism are not opposed at their source, they will find us where we live." GWB Sick of only the big boys getting the Dutch revolts? Try the Dutch Revolts Mod

13-02-2003, 08:26	#12
chegitz guevara Lord of the Horizons Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton Posts: 2,793	How do you decide what stats to give the monarchs? Since the monarchs don't have specific dates attached to them, how does the game switch them? __________________ Ottoman proposal thread, 1419-1520 Ottoman EEP thread Just for ideas. Anatolian Turkish Minors The Safavids We got the neutron, gonna drop it all over the place. Yer gonna get it on yer face - The Weirdos Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole, not like you. - The Modern Lovers

13-08-2002, 05:34	#4
Fate Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,082	Musha'sha' flag and shield: http://www.geocities.com/medius_aetus/mushasha.html

13-08-2002, 05:43	#5
Fate Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,082	Map of the Basra area in 1450: http://www.geocities.com/medius_aetus/mushashamap.html

13-08-2002, 15:45	#7
Crook Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Red Wings country Posts: 3,428	You might as well get it, as a revolter I assume?

13-08-2002, 17:09	#8
Fate Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,082	Correct.

13-08-2002, 17:14	#9
AlanC9 Field Marshal Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,697	Unless we do an EEP 1492 scenario.

08-09-2002, 06:50	#10
Fate Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,082	bump

13-02-2003, 02:40	#11
Fate Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,082	bump # 2 Going to get this ready for the 1520 scenario.

15-02-2003, 19:09	#14
Karl Martell Winter depri Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Aachen, Germany Posts: 3,333	they'll just ascend the throne on January 1st as AFAIK the Byzantium fantasy Emperors do.