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Old 02-09-2007, 10:25   #1
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Westernisation of Pagans

Hi, I haven't payed this game (Eu-2 and 3) for a long while, but with NA out I came back...

What conditions are necessary to loose the whiteman penalty as a Pagan and be able to build ships / recruit cavalry?

Playing as Inca, I did everything I used to do back in the Eu-2 days to achieve this, but looks like this has changed.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:33   #2
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I cant speak for NA but normal Eu3 got this:
Code:
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			technology_group = african
			technology_group = new_world
		}
		any_neighbor_country = {
			technology_group = latin
			relation = { who = THIS value = 100 }
		}		
		ADM = 5
	}
	
	mean_time_to_happen = {
	
		months = 180
		
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.95
			ADM = 7
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.85
			ADM = 8
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.95
			MIL = 7
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.85
			MIL = 8
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			NOT = { MIL = 5 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			NOT = { MIL = 4 }
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.9
			advisor = statesman
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.1
			NOT = { advisor = statesman }
		}		
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.95
			NOT = { innovative_narrowminded = -2 }
		}	
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.95
			NOT = { innovative_narrowminded = -3 }
		}		
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.95
			NOT = { innovative_narrowminded = -4 }
		}
	}
You need at least a Monarch with admin 5 and a latin neighbour with relation 100 or more, while it gets speeded up by good Monarch stats, a statesman advisor and not beeing narrowminded.
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:40   #3
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I cant speak for NA but normal Eu3 got this:

You need at least a Monarch with admin 5 and a latin neighbour with relation 100 or more, while it gets speeded up by good Monarch stats, a statesman advisor and not beeing narrowminded.
The event is almost the same in NA. The only thing that's changed is that Indian and Chinese techgroup nations can westernise as well.
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Old 02-09-2007, 14:32   #4
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That's actually a hell of a lot easier than for the Eastern Tech Group to Westernize. Guh.

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Old 02-09-2007, 14:55   #5
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That's actually a hell of a lot easier than for the Eastern Tech Group to Westernize. Guh.

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Yeah, and the moslem techgroup has it even harder, as they'll only move into the eastern techgroup....
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Old 02-09-2007, 15:33   #6
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On the other hand, the penalty for the Eastern and Muslim techgroups is a lot lower.
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Old 02-09-2007, 16:46   #7
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Thank you very much, all
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