Demanding Ducats in Surrender

redazncommiedxp · 29-08-2007, 18:24

For some reason, I can only demand 50 ducats when I pulp somebody in a war, but I can surrender much more money and my enemies can demand much more money. What's the deal?

Ragabash · 29-08-2007, 18:29

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Originally Posted by redazncommiedxp

For some reason, I can only demand 50 ducats when I pulp somebody in a war, but I can surrender much more money and my enemies can demand much more money. What's the deal?

I think that 50 ducats is the maximum if country has 50 or less ducats of savings.

Not sure altough...

redazncommiedxp · 29-08-2007, 18:34

I suppose that low treasure would also be the reason NO ONE ever pays back my loans... I was wondering about that. Is there any way to look at your enemy's treasury or economy, or get any information as to the inner workings of their state?

Edit: On a side note, is there any way to pay back loans BEFORE they're due, so I don't incur all the extra interest?

jadam · 29-08-2007, 18:38

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Originally Posted by redazncommiedxp

I suppose that low treasure would also be the reason NO ONE ever pays back my loans... I was wondering about that. Is there any way to look at your enemy's treasury or economy, or get any information as to the inner workings of their state?

Edit: On a side note, is there any way to pay back loans BEFORE they're due, so I don't incur all the extra interest?

1, Yeah, save and load up as the nation you want to get info about.
2, No.

dharper · 29-08-2007, 18:42

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Originally Posted by redazncommiedxp

I suppose that low treasure would also be the reason NO ONE ever pays back my loans... I was wondering about that.

I used to think that, too, but apparently the AI can pay back loans even if it doesn't have the money in its treasury. There's a fantastic FAQ on loaning money for fun and profit by DataJ you should read if you plan on using it in the game. Be warned, it can break the fun of the game by making it far too easy!

filipe_fonseca · 29-08-2007, 21:54

You can only ask what they actually have. Since the AI doesn't go bankrupt, I suppose it usually invests as much as possible, since hitting 0 is not a big problem. Also, when you do ask them for ducats you probably destroyed their army in war, which certainly made them lose money due to army replacements, occupied provinces, and war exhaustion. A good test would be requesting the peace treaty on the 1st of january.

crapmann · 29-08-2007, 22:41

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Originally Posted by filipe_fonseca

You can only ask what they actually have. Since the AI doesn't go bankrupt, I suppose it usually invests as much as possible, since hitting 0 is not a big problem. Also, when you do ask them for ducats you probably destroyed their army in war, which certainly made them lose money due to army replacements, occupied provinces, and war exhaustion. A good test would be requesting the peace treaty on the 1st of january.

When money is the objective I usually sue for peace in January. Got 500d that way once

Xiahou Mao · 29-08-2007, 23:17

The game always lets you demand 50 Ducats at minimum as peace terms, even if the AI actually has less. If the AI country currently has more than 50 Ducats, you can increase your demands to fill them. But you'll notice when an AI country makes peace with another AI country, they might only pay 3 Ducats or something like that. In AI on AI peace negotiations, they can't demand more money than the other country has. So being able to always demand (and get) 50 Ducats is an advantage the player nation has over the AI, as he's creating money out of nothing.

29-08-2007, 18:24	#1
redazncommiedxp Private Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23	Demanding Ducats in Surrender For some reason, I can only demand 50 ducats when I pulp somebody in a war, but I can surrender much more money and my enemies can demand much more money. What's the deal?

29-08-2007, 23:17	#8
Xiahou Mao Sergeant Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 90	The game always lets you demand 50 Ducats at minimum as peace terms, even if the AI actually has less. If the AI country currently has more than 50 Ducats, you can increase your demands to fill them. But you'll notice when an AI country makes peace with another AI country, they might only pay 3 Ducats or something like that. In AI on AI peace negotiations, they can't demand more money than the other country has. So being able to always demand (and get) 50 Ducats is an advantage the player nation has over the AI, as he's creating money out of nothing. __________________ Xiahou Mao - True Hero of the Three Kingdoms!

29-08-2007, 18:34	#3
redazncommiedxp Private Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23	I suppose that low treasure would also be the reason NO ONE ever pays back my loans... I was wondering about that. Is there any way to look at your enemy's treasury or economy, or get any information as to the inner workings of their state? Edit: On a side note, is there any way to pay back loans BEFORE they're due, so I don't incur all the extra interest?

29-08-2007, 21:54	#6
filipe_fonseca First Lieutenant Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 236	You can only ask what they actually have. Since the AI doesn't go bankrupt, I suppose it usually invests as much as possible, since hitting 0 is not a big problem. Also, when you do ask them for ducats you probably destroyed their army in war, which certainly made them lose money due to army replacements, occupied provinces, and war exhaustion. A good test would be requesting the peace treaty on the 1st of january.