EU3 - Prussia Formation ??

[notenome2]

Ok,

Ive played just about every EU3 game and I love playing nation "creation" games, whether with muscovy or gelre or whatever. Now Ive been playing as brandenburg in Napoleons Ambition and I noticed there is no Prussia formation event in the game folder, and I dont see prussian cores on the map, so I cant release prussia as a vassal, cancel vassalization and then leave game and hop in as prussia. Is there any way to play as brandenburg and form prussia playing a game from the earliest start date? Or is there no way to play as prussia except through starting a later game?

Thanks in advance

[náraiC]

Originally Posted by notenome2

Ok,

Ive played just about every EU3 game and I love playing nation "creation" games, whether with muscovy or gelre or whatever. Now Ive been playing as brandenburg in Napoleons Ambition and I noticed there is no Prussia formation event in the game folder, and I dont see prussian cores on the map, so I cant release prussia as a vassal, cancel vassalization and then leave game and hop in as prussia. Is there any way to play as brandenburg and form prussia playing a game from the earliest start date? Or is there no way to play as prussia except through starting a later game?

Thanks in advance

First register and see the FAQ where the matter is addressed.

Second I'll answer your question no there is no way to play Prussia except to start a later game.

Third I'll offer a solution. There is a Prussia formation event in MM. If you dont want to play Magna Mundi download it search for the event and copy and paste it to the vanilla game and away you go.

[notenome2]

Thats a huge bummer, considering Prussia is crucial geopolitically speaking, that any "full" game will never see it formed. Every game Ive player of vanila EU3 sees the Austrian blob formed that pretty much anihilates the HRE, and historically prussia really served as a strong counterweight to austria and could really help in addressing the blob problem, but oh well, guess I'll have to make do, hopefully the devs can patch in a prussian formation event, even if it is just for players

[Aethis]

So then we can have the big prussian blue blob?

[Simmons]

Well at least that would be something different

But it wouldn't happen anyway Prussia is to small for AI Prussia to beat AI Austria, it might slow AI Austria down though

[PSJK]

Originally Posted by Simmons

But it wouldn't happen anyway Prussia is to small for AI Prussia to beat AI Austria, it might slow AI Austria down though

Biggest problem is that AI would most likely be too incompetent to even form Prussia and "white blob" would've swarmed northern Germany by the 1500 already.

[Calum Cornish]

Originally Posted by Aethis

So then we can have the big prussian blue blob?

Isn't Prussia like kind of grey?

[Dysken]

Originally Posted by Calum Cornish

Isn't Prussia like kind of grey?

Not in Vicky like, and that's what counts.

[ComradeOm]

I don't really see the problem here. I'd like Prussia to form, and would encourage people to nab the MM event that allows this, but that is not going to have a significant effect on the game or Austria. Prussia is not some new superstate - it is essentially just Brandenburg renamed plus a province or two.

[schlucki]

in "Vicky" what do you mean? eu prussia is grey and on standard maps, too. germany is blue.
if u whant a national formation event then u can use one from magna mundi as example.

thats true. but u can play with france or with the territory of france only with a nother name like england

[Dysken]

Originally Posted by schlucki

in "Vicky" what do you mean? eu prussia is grey and on standard maps, too. germany is blue.
if u whant a national formation event then u can use one from magna mundi as example.

Oh you young 'uns.
Vicky = Victoria
Victoria is the best paradox game .

[ComradeOm]

Originally Posted by schlucki

in "Vicky" what do you mean? eu prussia is grey and on standard maps, too. germany is blue.

Victoria, another Paradox game. In Vicky Germany is grey and Prussia is blue.

[schlucki]

ahh. didn't know vicky but i believe u. this sounds like a litle bug or sth like this.

[WillT]

I don't see the big deal. There is a German event, why do you need a Prussian one.

[gigau]

Originally Posted by WillT

I don't see the big deal. There is a German event, why do you need a Prussian one.

EU era flavor : Prussia existed during EU3 timeframe, a united kingdom of Germany arrived only much later

[fuzzbug]

Originally Posted by Simmons

But it wouldn't happen anyway Prussia is to small for AI Prussia to beat AI Austria, it might slow AI Austria down though

As I see it Prussia is one of those nations that in reality "punched above their weight". This was largely due to their military prowess - presumably a result of their Teutonic Order heritage. I would feel justified in giving the newly formed country of Prussia some military advantages or maybe just giving it the lucky tag.

Harder to simulate is the fact that Prussia benefited from the overt or covert support of many of the minor states of north Germany who resented Austrian hegemony. Similarly, England saw Prussia as a counterweight to France and often gave financial support to Prussia (Question: in EU3 do AI countries give other AI countries war subsidies?)

In CIV there is a concept of national character (some nations are builders, some are militaristic etc). If a similar notion were introduced into EU3 it would address some of the ways that EU3 fails to siumulate reality very well. Perhaps the Prussians would get the Militaristic tag, the Austrians the Expansionist one (much of their growth was achieved diplomatically). Perhaps we could give the Chinese a character of "peaceful builders" and instead of conquering the barbarians they would build a wall to keep them out

[gigau]

Originally Posted by fuzzbug

In CIV there is a concept of national character (some nations are builders, some are militaristic etc). If a similar notion were introduced into EU3 it would address some of the ways that EU3 fails to siumulate reality very well. Perhaps the Prussians would get the Militaristic tag, the Austrians the Expansionist one (much of their growth was achieved diplomatically). Perhaps we could give the Chinese a character of "peaceful builders" and instead of conquering the barbarians they would build a wall to keep them out

Magna Mundi and MEIOU (although not yet in current release) both add modifiers triggered by tags, for several countries. Purssia isn't among them yet...