Formation of Ireland

Mrsmilyfacedude · 19-08-2007, 20:25

Recently I have been playing Leinster like mad, with my end goal; to form Ireland. I started in 1453, and played up until 1536, with no luck in achieving an independent island. By 1500 I had annexed all of the other Irish countries, and fought a successful war with England, resulting in a ceding of Meath. A few questions.

Does it play out as an event if I own all of Ireland? If so how long after I annex, diplo-annex, or attain the provinces? Finally can other countries be formed this way? ie. Wales, Netherlands, Prussia, Russia?

Kazmir · 19-08-2007, 20:29

I'm not sure how long it takes before you get the event to form Ireland, you can check it from ecents files. Think it's 216 months (but the time may be reduced by some factors).
And yes, you can form Netherlands and Russia same way. Wales must revolt out of England before it gets formed, not sure about Prussia.

Outshoot · 19-08-2007, 20:38

The formation of Ireland fires as a event. It will give you two options one will be like no I don't want to form Ireland the other will be yes! I want to form Ireland, and its gives you stability, Prestige, and some cores. At least thats what it did for my formation of Germany as Brandenburg.

You can also form Germany, Italy, Great Britian, Mughal Empire and France. I'm assuming that the formation of France is if you're playing as Brittany and France got destroyed in years of figthing becuase France can't exsist for the formation event.

*Veldmaarschalk* · 19-08-2007, 20:40

You can also form Spain, the Netherlands, Persia and Russia

Niptium · 19-08-2007, 20:44

We notice there is at least a Guelderian paying attention

Falahk · 19-08-2007, 21:02

register your game and read the "how to form national states from minors" topic in the FAQ forum

Brian Bóruma · 19-08-2007, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Outshoot

You can also form Germany, Italy, Great Britian, Mughal Empire and France. I'm assuming that the formation of France is if you're playing as Brittany and France got destroyed in years of figthing becuase France can't exsist for the formation event.

You forgot England.

Yes, you can, [God knows why], form England.

spl · 19-08-2007, 21:44

The correct list is, England, Great Briton, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Persia, Mughal Empire, Russia (i think thats them all)

PrawnStar · 19-08-2007, 21:46

Germany forms rather than Prussia, essentially the same place different name.

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Originally Posted by Brian Bóruma

You forgot England.

Yes, you can, [God knows why], form England.

Gives everyone else something to moan about

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Trondheim · 19-08-2007, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Brian Bóruma

You forgot England.

Yes, you can, [God knows why], form England.

Probably for the same reason as France: in case England or Great Britain ceases to exist, then nations such as Cornwall or Canada can create England again.

Woad-Warrier · 19-08-2007, 22:44

Yeah I think its for when your playing as Cornwall or Northumberland. So when you destroy/annex England you can form it back again..

Brian Bóruma · 19-08-2007, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Trondheim

Probably for the same reason as France: in case England or Great Britain ceases to exist, then nations such as Cornwall or Canada can create England again.

But unlike with France, such countries rarely if ever exist. I mean, Navarre, Brittany, or any French minor can form France. Cornwall, Lancashire and Canada are rather less likely to form, let along conquer the entirety of Southern England.

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Originally Posted by Woad-Warrier

Yeah I think its for when your playing as Cornwall or Northumberland. So when you destroy/annex England you can form it back again..

How exactly would one play them short of loading as England anyway and letting them revolt?

Earl Uhtred · 20-08-2007, 00:20

It's probably for completeness' sake. Spain, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Italy and Ireland all contain several potential states, and all have nation-forming events. So does England, however unlikely it is those states will first get free, then get hold of the prerequisite provinces without human intervention.

Brian Bóruma · 20-08-2007, 10:33

And yet no Kalmar Union event. Sad.

PrawnStar · 20-08-2007, 13:38

The whole form England thing is a bit weird - it's already happened in 1453.

As for english minors that's even sillier, either the whole country fragments or none of it, not just a couple of random corners.

Independant Northumberland? Sounds to me like too many Swedish football fans believing John Hall's Geordie nation rhetoric!

Of course personally I'm in favour of Northumbrian Independence - that's about the only way we'll ever get on the TV without being portrayed as fat, happy but stupid, football mad drunks.

PrawnStar · 20-08-2007, 13:57

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Originally posted by mandead
Carlisle, the last vestige of Western Civilisation.

If that's true, I've just woke up to find Bin Laden's won

PrawnStar · 20-08-2007, 14:06

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Originally posted by mandead
Try living in Scunthorpe pal!

No thanks, I've had enough of grim northern towns, I've opted out of western civilisation entirely and now live in Leicester.

blackfire83 · 20-08-2007, 14:18

Regarding Prussia, If you start the game in 1701 (pretty sure that's the date) then you can play as Prussia. Game's more than halfway over by then, but it's still worth noting.

-blackfire83

t0m · 22-08-2007, 22:30

omg y dus every1 h8 the north!

19-08-2007, 20:25	#1
Mrsmilyfacedude Recruit Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: London Posts: 4	Formation of Ireland Recently I have been playing Leinster like mad, with my end goal; to form Ireland. I started in 1453, and played up until 1536, with no luck in achieving an independent island. By 1500 I had annexed all of the other Irish countries, and fought a successful war with England, resulting in a ceding of Meath. A few questions. Does it play out as an event if I own all of Ireland? If so how long after I annex, diplo-annex, or attain the provinces? Finally can other countries be formed this way? ie. Wales, Netherlands, Prussia, Russia?

19-08-2007, 20:40	#4
Veldmaarschalk The Grand Stratego-ist Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Zutphen, The Netherlands Posts: 20,420	You can also form Spain, the Netherlands, Persia and Russia __________________ If I use this color text, then I'm "speaking" as a moderator. Crusader Kings Mod's: The Alternative Scenario Setup mod and Before the Conquest. After Action Reports : Veldmaarschalk's AAR depository in the Ink Well Member of the Association of Dutch Paradoxians and the 10,000+ Posters

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19-08-2007, 21:02	#6
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19-08-2007, 21:44	#8
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19-08-2007, 20:29	#2
Kazmir Keeping the ship on course Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Heading towards an iceberg Posts: 2,305 Blog Entries: 4	I'm not sure how long it takes before you get the event to form Ireland, you can check it from ecents files. Think it's 216 months (but the time may be reduced by some factors). And yes, you can form Netherlands and Russia same way. Wales must revolt out of England before it gets formed, not sure about Prussia.

19-08-2007, 20:38	#3
Outshoot Private Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 19	The formation of Ireland fires as a event. It will give you two options one will be like no I don't want to form Ireland the other will be yes! I want to form Ireland, and its gives you stability, Prestige, and some cores. At least thats what it did for my formation of Germany as Brandenburg. You can also form Germany, Italy, Great Britian, Mughal Empire and France. I'm assuming that the formation of France is if you're playing as Brittany and France got destroyed in years of figthing becuase France can't exsist for the formation event.

19-08-2007, 22:44	#11
Woad-Warrier Colonel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Posts: 918	Yeah I think its for when your playing as Cornwall or Northumberland. So when you destroy/annex England you can form it back again..

20-08-2007, 00:20	#13
Earl Uhtred Wotan Is Lord Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jarrow / sea Posts: 4,832	It's probably for completeness' sake. Spain, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Italy and Ireland all contain several potential states, and all have nation-forming events. So does England, however unlikely it is those states will first get free, then get hold of the prerequisite provinces without human intervention. __________________ Dawn of the West 406 - 1071 Bloodaxe: War for Britain 865 - 978 http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=302968 .

20-08-2007, 10:33	#14
Brian Bóruma High King (With Opposition) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Empire of Ireland (1005 - 1014) Posts: 698	And yet no Kalmar Union event. Sad. __________________ Dílis d'ár n-Oidhreacht. True to Our Heritage. 1 Clerk Nationality: Irish Religion: Catholic Ideology: Reactionary Issues: Moralism/Laissez-faire Militancy: 3 (+0.49) Consciousness: 8 (-0.64)

20-08-2007, 13:38	#15
PrawnStar Knight of the Great Spirit Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 2,551	The whole form England thing is a bit weird - it's already happened in 1453. As for english minors that's even sillier, either the whole country fragments or none of it, not just a couple of random corners. Independant Northumberland? Sounds to me like too many Swedish football fans believing John Hall's Geordie nation rhetoric! Of course personally I'm in favour of Northumbrian Independence - that's about the only way we'll ever get on the TV without being portrayed as fat, happy but stupid, football mad drunks.

20-08-2007, 14:18	#18
blackfire83 Second Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 153	Regarding Prussia, If you start the game in 1701 (pretty sure that's the date) then you can play as Prussia. Game's more than halfway over by then, but it's still worth noting. -blackfire83

22-08-2007, 22:30	#19
t0m Lt. General Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: WWM prov-2091 Posts: 1,683	omg y dus every1 h8 the north!