Work in Progress: Planning for a new mp

Dr Bob · 13-08-2007, 21:49

GMed by me and Cobjor, the game would probably take place on mondays 19-23 CEST, starting in september, and will be a hamachi only affair.

Provisionally I am thinking of using the vanilla map, PE's 1492 scenario.

The game should have an ethos of relaxed roleplaying (no using things that could be considered an exploit even if they aren't specifically mentioned) and the slowing down of the blobbing process wherever possible.

There will also probably be a locked land naval slider between 3 and 7 and England may recieve a slight nerfing to its late game admirals that I suggested in european warmongers.

To that end I and Cobjor will reserve the right to not let someone play if we think they will change the sort of atmosphere we are looking for.

Anyway, people we've already approached if you could sign your interest here with 3 countries and any other comments and people we've not asked who would be interested please do the same as we do need more players

Interested:

Dr Bob: Russia/Brandenburg/Sweden
Cobjor : Sweden/OE/England
Suvorov: England/Spain/BB
Ear: Spain/England/Sweden
Ulschmidt: Ottoman Empire/France/Netherlands
Rosas: Sweden/Spain/OE
Absolut: Holland/England/France
Krisz: NOT Austria/Spain/Brandenburg
Van Engel: France/Brandenburg/Austria
Lurken: Poland/Russia/OE
Mr Qwerty:

cobjor · 13-08-2007, 21:51

The countries we have in mind are:
1. France
2. England
3. Spain
4. Russia
5. OE
6. Sweden
7. Austria
8. Brandenburg
9. Denmark? NL? Zulus? What do you think?

EDIT: And no, China will not be played!

Dr Bob · 13-08-2007, 21:55

My preferences are:
1) Russia
2) Brandenburg
3) Sweden

cobjor · 13-08-2007, 21:57

I think I rather go with
1. Venice
2. Sweden
3. OE

Actually, I am not that sure and will probably change my preferences a few times before we start.

Edit: Number of times I changed my mind: 4

Suvorov · 13-08-2007, 22:05

Hmm, I'd like to try out a naval nation this time. A "no-powergaming game" would be a good place to have a go at one, me reckons.

So:

1. England
2. Spain
3. BB

EarendilHE · 13-08-2007, 22:15

Thx for asking me.
And my choices are...(As Cobjor stated too, my list doesnt need to be the final one):

1. Spain!! (i tried it one time, which were quite a disaster)
2. England
3. Sweden (if no Denmark)

BurningEGO · 13-08-2007, 22:29

Quote:

EDIT: And no, China will not be played!

Poor Sid...

Ulschmidt · 14-08-2007, 01:12

I slide my application form, waiting for your approval, my good friends.

1) Ottoman Empire
2) France
3) The Netherlands

No Portugal in this campaign?

just wondering.

Rosas · 14-08-2007, 03:06

Im Interested

Here is my msn izargorri83@hotmail.com.

1) I prefer to play Sweden.
2) Spain
3) Ottoman Empira (Or any muslim country laike Ak Konlyu, Persia, Mongol, Argelia

)

balinus · 14-08-2007, 03:22

Thanks for the invitation, but as I've already told Cobjor, I don't have free time until Christmas....

Good game to you!

Ulschmidt · 14-08-2007, 13:35

Balinus, if you change your mind, We'll be glad to entertain you.

I've redirected every player who signed in my former MP in here. And Cobjor, I can play in August, just managed to re-set my agenda.

greetings, Ulschmidt.

Mulliman · 14-08-2007, 15:53

Before I sign up, could the GMs please tell me what they see as powergaming?

Ulschmidt · 14-08-2007, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mulliman

Before I sign up, could the GMs please tell me what they see as powergaming?

a cautious man, mr. Mulliman. (nods) As I'm desperate, I have no condition

Absolut · 14-08-2007, 17:15

1. England
2. France
3. Austria

If Holland is in the game:

1. Holland
2. England
3. France

Dr Bob · 14-08-2007, 17:17

Obviously not an easy thing to define mulli, so I'll try giving a few examples of things I'd prefer not to happen in this game and if that isn't enough i'll try and figure an actual definition out.

Things such as

BB and Austria peacefully dividing up Germany and spending the first 15 years annexing and force vassalising the HRE, Austria and to a lesser extent BB should see the HRE as their duty to protect
England spending the first 150 years at peace then joining in fights by using massed cannon and an uber leader
An eternal border/alliance (usually this is caused by players being on good terms with each other, as hopefully most of us here are on good terms I hope that it will mean people feel less constrained with regards to diplomacy)
Russia not attacking the west till 1770
Massed TA's to make sure that 4 naval nations control all trade
Restraint in regards to ending a war, if you are being beaten but think you may be able to turn it round with a total war think twice about what happened irl. Similiarly if you are winning, be happy with modest gains and don't keep raising the demands if they don't surrender at once.

If you want further clarification just shout, hope this gives an idea of the flavor I want the game to have

cobjor · 14-08-2007, 17:18

Remember, which nation should we have as nr 9?

As I can see right now, Absolut think we should go with NL. Anyone else has an idea?

bluelotus · 14-08-2007, 17:26

If my invitation still stands Bob,

countries I wouldn't want to take

Austria
Spain
Brandenburg

Dr Bob · 14-08-2007, 17:40

So presumably you are fine with any but those 3?

Van Engel · 14-08-2007, 18:20

I might be interested if a crew player crew is gonna play.

Goddamn, still can't stay away from EU2MP.

Ohyeah, and why not the watk3.1?

bluelotus · 14-08-2007, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Bob

So presumably you are fine with any but those 3?

Yeah.

Quote:

I might be interested if a crew player crew is gonna play. Goddamn, still can't stay away from EU2MP. Ohyeah, and why not the watk3.1?

Haha Henry boi, knew you would play again.

13-08-2007, 21:49	#1
Dr Bob Antipope Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dancing a little jig Posts: 4,650	Work in Progress: Planning for a new mp GMed by me and Cobjor, the game would probably take place on mondays 19-23 CEST, starting in september, and will be a hamachi only affair. Provisionally I am thinking of using the vanilla map, PE's 1492 scenario. The game should have an ethos of relaxed roleplaying (no using things that could be considered an exploit even if they aren't specifically mentioned) and the slowing down of the blobbing process wherever possible. There will also probably be a locked land naval slider between 3 and 7 and England may recieve a slight nerfing to its late game admirals that I suggested in european warmongers. To that end I and Cobjor will reserve the right to not let someone play if we think they will change the sort of atmosphere we are looking for. Anyway, people we've already approached if you could sign your interest here with 3 countries and any other comments and people we've not asked who would be interested please do the same as we do need more players Interested: Dr Bob: Russia/Brandenburg/Sweden Cobjor : Sweden/OE/England Suvorov: England/Spain/BB Ear: Spain/England/Sweden Ulschmidt: Ottoman Empire/France/Netherlands Rosas: Sweden/Spain/OE Absolut: Holland/England/France Krisz: NOT Austria/Spain/Brandenburg Van Engel: France/Brandenburg/Austria Lurken: Poland/Russia/OE Mr Qwerty: __________________ ICQ:582-233-537 Last edited by Dr Bob; 17-08-2007 at 12:26.

13-08-2007, 21:51	#2
cobjor Zombie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: City of Kringlor Posts: 1,885	The countries we have in mind are: 1. France 2. England 3. Spain 4. Russia 5. OE 6. Sweden 7. Austria 8. Brandenburg 9. Denmark? NL? Zulus? What do you think? EDIT: And no, China will not be played! __________________ "Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made" - Otto von Bismarck ICQ - 316374337

13-08-2007, 21:55	#3
Dr Bob Antipope Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dancing a little jig Posts: 4,650	My preferences are: 1) Russia 2) Brandenburg 3) Sweden __________________ ICQ:582-233-537

13-08-2007, 21:57	#4
cobjor Zombie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: City of Kringlor Posts: 1,885	I think I rather go with 1. Venice 2. Sweden 3. OE Actually, I am not that sure and will probably change my preferences a few times before we start. Edit: Number of times I changed my mind: 4 __________________ "Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made" - Otto von Bismarck ICQ - 316374337 Last edited by cobjor; 18-08-2007 at 11:55.

13-08-2007, 22:05	#5
Suvorov The Beast from the East Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oss (NB, NL), the City of Knives™ Posts: 2,342 Blog Entries: 2	Hmm, I'd like to try out a naval nation this time. A "no-powergaming game" would be a good place to have a go at one, me reckons. So: 1. England 2. Spain 3. BB __________________ In honour of =^.^=

13-08-2007, 22:15	#6
EarendilHE Saviour of Middle Earth Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wuppertal,Ger Posts: 1,857	Thx for asking me. And my choices are...(As Cobjor stated too, my list doesnt need to be the final one): 1. Spain!! (i tried it one time, which were quite a disaster) 2. England 3. Sweden (if no Denmark) __________________ My ICQ: 82941754 The mariner who sailed the Great Sea at the end of the First Age. He long sought a way to Aman, to seek the aid of the Valar against Morgoth, but the way was hidden. After the Sons of Fëanor attacked the Exiles of Gondolin seeking the Silmaril, Elwing his wife escaped and came to him at sea, through the power of Ulmo, in the shape of a white sea-bird bearing the Silmaril on her breast. Through the power of the jewel, it is said, Eärendil was at last able to find a way to the Undying Lands, and there stood before the Valar and begged their aid in the wars against Morgoth. The Valar listened to his plea, and sent the great force that finally conquered the Dark Lord and freed Middle-earth.

14-08-2007, 01:12	#8
Ulschmidt EU2 Admirer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 1,513	I slide my application form, waiting for your approval, my good friends. 1) Ottoman Empire 2) France 3) The Netherlands No Portugal in this campaign? just wondering.

14-08-2007, 03:06	#9
Rosas Second Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ahonikenk Posts: 189	Im Interested Here is my msn izargorri83@hotmail.com. 1) I prefer to play Sweden. 2) Spain 3) Ottoman Empira (Or any muslim country laike Ak Konlyu, Persia, Mongol, Argelia ) __________________ "La utopía está en el horizonte. Camino dos pasos, ella se aleja dos pasos y el horizonte se corre diez pasos más allá. ¿Entonces para que sirve la utopía? Para eso, sirve para caminar." Eduardo Galeano "Los dolores que quedan son las libertades que faltan. Creemos no equivocarnos, las resonancias del corazón nos lo advierten; estamos pisando sobre una revolución, estamos viviendo una hora americana." Last edited by Rosas; 15-08-2007 at 02:02.

14-08-2007, 03:22	#10
balinus Dancing Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Québec Posts: 2,205	Thanks for the invitation, but as I've already told Cobjor, I don't have free time until Christmas.... Good game to you! __________________ ICQ - 314-872-293

14-08-2007, 13:35	#11
Ulschmidt EU2 Admirer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 1,513	Balinus, if you change your mind, We'll be glad to entertain you. I've redirected every player who signed in my former MP in here. And Cobjor, I can play in August, just managed to re-set my agenda. greetings, Ulschmidt.

14-08-2007, 15:53	#12
Mulliman Im The Young Cow Man Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,866	Before I sign up, could the GMs please tell me what they see as powergaming? __________________ I play eu MP. So should you... The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head. Rest in Peace, Daniel Auby

14-08-2007, 17:15	#14
Absolut Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Posts: 3,735	1. England 2. France 3. Austria If Holland is in the game: 1. Holland 2. England 3. France

14-08-2007, 17:17	#15
Dr Bob Antipope Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dancing a little jig Posts: 4,650	Obviously not an easy thing to define mulli, so I'll try giving a few examples of things I'd prefer not to happen in this game and if that isn't enough i'll try and figure an actual definition out. Things such as BB and Austria peacefully dividing up Germany and spending the first 15 years annexing and force vassalising the HRE, Austria and to a lesser extent BB should see the HRE as their duty to protect England spending the first 150 years at peace then joining in fights by using massed cannon and an uber leader An eternal border/alliance (usually this is caused by players being on good terms with each other, as hopefully most of us here are on good terms I hope that it will mean people feel less constrained with regards to diplomacy) Russia not attacking the west till 1770 Massed TA's to make sure that 4 naval nations control all trade Restraint in regards to ending a war, if you are being beaten but think you may be able to turn it round with a total war think twice about what happened irl. Similiarly if you are winning, be happy with modest gains and don't keep raising the demands if they don't surrender at once. If you want further clarification just shout, hope this gives an idea of the flavor I want the game to have __________________ ICQ:582-233-537 Last edited by Dr Bob; 14-08-2007 at 17:25.

14-08-2007, 17:18	#16
cobjor Zombie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: City of Kringlor Posts: 1,885	Remember, which nation should we have as nr 9? As I can see right now, Absolut think we should go with NL. Anyone else has an idea? __________________ "Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made" - Otto von Bismarck ICQ - 316374337

14-08-2007, 17:26	#17
bluelotus Rockossack Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stirling, UK Posts: 1,993	If my invitation still stands Bob, countries I wouldn't want to take Austria Spain Brandenburg __________________ Last fm: vkrisz Ottomans Unleashed a For the Glory AAr.

14-08-2007, 17:40	#18
Dr Bob Antipope Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dancing a little jig Posts: 4,650	So presumably you are fine with any but those 3? __________________ ICQ:582-233-537

14-08-2007, 18:20	#19
Van Engel Buitenlander Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tilburg Posts: 2,720	I might be interested if a crew player crew is gonna play. Goddamn, still can't stay away from EU2MP. Ohyeah, and why not the watk3.1? __________________ Dutch AAR \|\| Danish AAR \|\| Portuguese AAR WritAAr of the Week! - Week of Oct. 31, 2004 What am I listening to?