Separate-Alliance Peace in war

Sid Meier · 02-07-2007, 02:08

k, as well as in peace, war needs to be fixed, in eu2 I could click separate/alliance peace for either myself or the particular enemy and yet i cannot do this in eu3 making wars painfully hard to resolve.

Wezqu · 02-07-2007, 02:22

If the countries are vassals you can't make peace with them without making peace with their owner if he is in the war. So in that aspect is realistic. Also you can make separate peace with countries there is just those few exceptions.

Sid Meier · 02-07-2007, 02:25

But what if I want to sep peace the alliance leader? Also in some cases when the country is neither a vassal, in a personal union, i cant negotiate because its not the leader of the alliance and its a 1 prov minor i wanna annex.

lenny · 02-07-2007, 08:15

In EU3, the alliance leader always negotiates for the alliance. Furthermore, minor allies cannot make separate peace between each others and vassals cannot make peace if their liege is still in the same war.

IMO, this makes alliance much more important factors as in EU2, as you can no longer attack the one-province-minor allied to France and then just pay 50g to France so that they abandon their ally.

02-07-2007, 02:08	#1
Sid Meier Time Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,141	Separate-Alliance Peace in war k, as well as in peace, war needs to be fixed, in eu2 I could click separate/alliance peace for either myself or the particular enemy and yet i cannot do this in eu3 making wars painfully hard to resolve. __________________ He who wishes to fight must first count the cost. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be dampened. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor dampened, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue... In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns. -Sun Tzu, the Art of War

02-07-2007, 02:25	#3
Sid Meier Time Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,141	But what if I want to sep peace the alliance leader? Also in some cases when the country is neither a vassal, in a personal union, i cant negotiate because its not the leader of the alliance and its a 1 prov minor i wanna annex. __________________ He who wishes to fight must first count the cost. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be dampened. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor dampened, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue... In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns. -Sun Tzu, the Art of War

02-07-2007, 08:15	#4
lenny Field Marshal Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,607	In EU3, the alliance leader always negotiates for the alliance. Furthermore, minor allies cannot make separate peace between each others and vassals cannot make peace if their liege is still in the same war. IMO, this makes alliance much more important factors as in EU2, as you can no longer attack the one-province-minor allied to France and then just pay 50g to France so that they abandon their ally. __________________ "Econometrics is the art of drawing a crooked line from an unproved assumption to a foregone conclusion." Peter Kennedy, A Guide to Econometrics, MIT Press, 1992, p. 7.

02-07-2007, 02:22	#2
Wezqu Lt. General Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,551	If the countries are vassals you can't make peace with them without making peace with their owner if he is in the war. So in that aspect is realistic. Also you can make separate peace with countries there is just those few exceptions.