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Old 09-05-2007, 01:34   #1
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The Idiot's Guide to Surviving as a Absolute Monarchy

Can someone actually tell me?

1)Revolts
I've tried to be two absolute monarchies, Russia and Austria. Each time starting in the 1850's massive revolts break all over my country and basically I can't do anything without a massive gunshot noise going over Aida or the Radetzky March every few seconds.

2)Are Russian capitalists a bunch of gits?
I'm a Monarchy, but with the Western Party in control. Nothing is happening. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I was #2, then #3, then #4, I'm now #5 and about to become #6.

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What government type does an absolute monarchy generally come out in DD? Paternal Au, Fascist, or National Socialist?
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:03   #2
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I've tried to be two absolute monarchies, Russia and Austria. Each time starting in the 1850's massive revolts break all over my country and basically I can't do anything without a massive gunshot noise going over Aida or the Radetzky March every few seconds.
Controlling Millitancy in Monarchy is quite harder than in conmon or especially democracy.Some tips:

-A nice load of clergy, conciousnes is not youre friend.
-Dont switch partys to much.Get a party in power that the people like.In youre case usually conservatives.Most of youre pops will be conservative with conservative issues.Forcing in liberals wont be liked much, or any other party for that matter.Lay a bit easy on the wars, avoid millitancy events or corruption buildings.
-Set somewhat better rights, or social reforms.

Better yet, just go con mon or democracy.


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2)Are Russian capitalists a bunch of gits? I'm a Monarchy, but with the Western Party in control. Nothing is happening. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I was #2, then #3, then #4, I'm now #5 and about to become #6.
I gather you play revolutions?

Youre capitalists need money reserves to be able to build factorys and rails.(tax em low)
And you prefferably need a laisse faire goverment to have em build much.eu usually liberals thuss, not really very compatible with monarchy.

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What government type does an absolute monarchy generally come out in DD? Paternal Au, Fascist, or National Socialist?
Paternal Autocrat i dare to guess.Not sure but it would be logical.Though the ruling party may play a large role to.I wonder what youll get with a monarchy and a socialist party in power.
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:25   #3
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Ugh, pity. Tax them? Who, Middle Class, Upper Class, Lower Class? Can I actually tax the Capies directly? And thanks
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Old 09-05-2007, 04:08   #4
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Try the zero tax full tariff method from day one till militancy of your people are lower. I normally do this until I can get my 7-8 capitalist pops converted and get experimental rail researched (sometime in the mid 1840's) Your capitalist's aren't going to bulld many factories early, but they will build some. Once I get railroads researched, I tax lower and middle class around 50%, no tariffs and go find a nice uncivilized country to pillage so i can build low maintance crap units to garrison any provences I have left where militancy is an issue.
I don't know how efficient this really is, but I never seem to have any problems with revolts. I don't ever change government, I keep the same conservative monarchy running. (This was all with Russia, as my other post abut my capitalists liking to build phantom steamer factories in land locked states and having them disappear instantly)
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Old 09-05-2007, 14:45   #5
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what ever you do don't tax the rich! and set tarrifs as low as you can, that will encourage the cappies to build.
i always enact as many political reforms as possible without giving voting rights... it seems to calm the people down.
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Old 09-05-2007, 18:14   #6
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what ever you do don't tax the rich! and set tarrifs as low as you can, that will encourage the cappies to build.
i always enact as many political reforms as possible without giving voting rights... it seems to calm the people down.
I'd note that nations can tax the richer classes, and actually this is a good tool to speed up or slow down rates of industrialization during the course of the game. The trick is to ensure that capis are building up their reserves. If they can do that with you charging 25% tax rate as well as tariffs, then there is no reason to not tax if you feel capis are building faster than you can provide POPs to work in the factories.

It all depends of course on the country you play, the degree of industrialization you have, your tech level (esp with railways - if the capis have nearly completed railing your nation and you aren't near to researching the next rail level, and running short of POPs to employ in new factories, makes sense to slow the building down until you research the next rail tech level) and your overall goals in game. But I'd not say you have to keep rich taxes at 0 and tariffs low the entire game, its all situational.
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Old 09-05-2007, 22:08   #7
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I'd note that nations can tax the richer classes, and actually this is a good tool to speed up or slow down rates of industrialization during the course of the game. The trick is to ensure that capis are building up their reserves. If they can do that with you charging 25% tax rate as well as tariffs, then there is no reason to not tax if you feel capis are building faster than you can provide POPs to work in the factories.

It all depends of course on the country you play, the degree of industrialization you have, your tech level (esp with railways - if the capis have nearly completed railing your nation and you aren't near to researching the next rail level, and running short of POPs to employ in new factories, makes sense to slow the building down until you research the next rail tech level) and your overall goals in game. But I'd not say you have to keep rich taxes at 0 and tariffs low the entire game, its all situational.

sorry i should have said what i was refering too.... specifically Russia but can apply to Austria too. cappies need to be running at full rate to railroad and industrialize russia, they can never keep up with me! they take such a long time to railroad a country the size of russia i'm constantly looking for ways to speed them up. but you're right by about half way into the game you have to slow them down...
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Old 09-05-2007, 23:25   #8
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Problem with staying as an absolute monarchy is that plurality increases militancy. Hence: Consciousness (which increases plurality) is not your friend. You generally want a conservative party in power, this however dissallows any decent industrialization since all worker pops are liberal :O. Best way to do this is after the liberal revolution sparks, go conmon with landed voting rights. Ban any liberal party that would win the election (MAX 1!!!!!) and make sure you have 0% taxes and whatever tarriffs you might need. This should keep your people stupid and happy for atleast 2-3 decades more.
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