What knights are The Knights in fact?

The Great Duck · 20-03-2007, 18:43

Ar7 · 20-03-2007, 18:44

Knights of Saint John I believe, but it is totally off the top of my head at the moment.

*Veldmaarschalk* · 20-03-2007, 18:45

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What knights are The Knights in fact?

They are the Knights of St. John or Knights Hospitaller

The Great Duck · 20-03-2007, 18:47

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They are the Knights of St. John or Knights Hospitaller

I had two different orders,one named St.Johns the other Hospitalier form in the CK.Strange...

SharpAlignment · 20-03-2007, 18:54

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I had two different orders,one named St.Johns the other Hospitalier form in the CK.Strange...

That is funny because they are the same order.

The Knights are also known as Knights of Rhodes and the Knights of Malta. The exist to this day.

ubik · 20-03-2007, 19:00

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What knights are The Knights in fact?

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ubik · 20-03-2007, 19:01

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That is funny because they are the same order.

The Knights are also known as Knights of Rhodes and the Knights of Malta. The exist to this day.

Ops! You are here too???

*Veldmaarschalk* · 20-03-2007, 19:07

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I had two different orders,one named St.Johns the other Hospitalier form in the CK.Strange...

No, CK has 3 knightly orders

1. HOSP;Hospitaliers Order

2. TEMP;Templar Order

3. TEUT;Teutonic Order

There is no 'nation' named Knights of St. John in CK

The Great Duck · 20-03-2007, 19:18

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No, CK has 3 knightly orders

1. HOSP;Hospitaliers Order

2. TEMP;Templar Order

3. TEUT;Teutonic Order

There is no 'nation' named Knights of St. John in CK

Oops!You are right!The other one where the Templars.I noticed that the Teutons form conquering the Baltics,and the other two in The Holy Land.When did the Teutons form,and why.

SharpAlignment · 20-03-2007, 19:32

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Oops!You are right!The other one where the Templars.I noticed that the Teutons form conquering the Baltics,and the other two in The Holy Land.When did the Teutons form,and why.

On a related note, when the Templars were dissolved all of their possessions were integrated into the Knights.

Byakhiam · 20-03-2007, 19:36

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Oops!You are right!The other one where the Templars.I noticed that the Teutons form conquering the Baltics,and the other two in The Holy Land.When did the Teutons form,and why.

It is usually more practical to just go down to Wikipedia or somewhere similar and check what they have to say about the matter, rather than asking a forumite to do it.

Dr Goth · 20-03-2007, 20:15

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Oops!You are right!The other one where the Templars.I noticed that the Teutons form conquering the Baltics,and the other two in The Holy Land.When did the Teutons form,and why.

The Teutonic Order (Ordo domus Sanctæ Mariæ Theutonicorum Ierosolimitanorum - Orden der Brüder vom Deutschen Haus St. Mariens in Jerusalem) was formed in The Holy Land at the end of the 12th century. Its original purpose was to care for of all the wounded pilgrims and crusaders of German origin, but was transformed into a military order shortly after its official foundation. After the loss of Palestine the Teutonic Order moved first to Transylvania and then to the Baltic.

It exists today still, but purely as a spiritual Roman Catholic (despite its history of accepting both Lutherans and Reformed) religous order. The Nazis banned the Order, even though they used the imagery, but it survived in Italy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_Order

Cheers!

The Impaler · 20-03-2007, 23:30

The Teutonic Order's lands were originally split between the latter order and another group of crusading knights, the Brethren of the Sword who were based in Riga, but the two merged in 1237.

Torisen · 21-03-2007, 05:55

Aren't the Knights listed as Orthodox in the game? But, aren't they commissioned by the Pope?

Mierin · 21-03-2007, 08:37

Indeed one of the challenges of the Knights is that while they are Maltese and Catholic, your capital is Greek and Orthodox. If you go a colonial route you could end up whereby your capital city is the most rebellious of your empire.

*hildoceras* · 21-03-2007, 08:43

they are maltese only after 1523 when the king of Spain (?) gives them the island and after the loss of Rhodes.
They are catholic, no doubt, and Rhodes itself is with an orthodox population

Mierin · 21-03-2007, 08:52

Indeed but the game doesnt account for that- try loading up at the earliest start date and send a colonist somewhere- the created colony will be Maltese even without ever controlling Malta.

The Impaler · 21-03-2007, 13:00

Possibly this should be reported as a bug - the Knights shouldn't be Maltese while they're still on Rhodes.

berhaven · 21-03-2007, 16:56

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Possibly this should be reported as a bug - the Knights shouldn't be Maltese while they're still on Rhodes.

Actually the Knights shouldn't have a culture in game terms, or they should just have all Latin cultures at the same time...

Tem_Probe · 21-03-2007, 17:59

The Knights having Maltese culture is useful for crusading purpose, since Maltese is in the same group as Arabs - and Arabia is where you should be doing your expanding.

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Torisen Second Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 194	Aren't the Knights listed as Orthodox in the game? But, aren't they commissioned by the Pope? __________________ Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?

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Tem_Probe Lord Marshal Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal, Qc - Canada Posts: 2,432	The Knights having Maltese culture is useful for crusading purpose, since Maltese is in the same group as Arabs - and Arabia is where you should be doing your expanding. __________________ Respectfully submitted, Tem_Probe. You can do anything you set your mind to when you have Vision, Determination, and an endless supply of expendable soldiers.

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Ar7 The Fastest Bullet in the Gun Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 348	Knights of Saint John I believe, but it is totally off the top of my head at the moment.

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The Impaler Field Marshal Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,814	The Teutonic Order's lands were originally split between the latter order and another group of crusading knights, the Brethren of the Sword who were based in Riga, but the two merged in 1237.

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Mierin Second Lieutenant Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 178	Indeed one of the challenges of the Knights is that while they are Maltese and Catholic, your capital is Greek and Orthodox. If you go a colonial route you could end up whereby your capital city is the most rebellious of your empire.

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hildoceras Fossile en devenir Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: France Posts: 7,148	they are maltese only after 1523 when the king of Spain (?) gives them the island and after the loss of Rhodes. They are catholic, no doubt, and Rhodes itself is with an orthodox population

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Mierin Second Lieutenant Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 178	Indeed but the game doesnt account for that- try loading up at the earliest start date and send a colonist somewhere- the created colony will be Maltese even without ever controlling Malta.

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The Impaler Field Marshal Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,814	Possibly this should be reported as a bug - the Knights shouldn't be Maltese while they're still on Rhodes.