My problems with peace in war of succession

Curwen · 13-03-2007, 01:20

Tried looking through the forums, googled and couldn't find anything.

I'm playing as Denmark and doing pretty good. Pommeian revolted and emerged. I like small countries that are result of rebellions, so I threw guarantees and royal marriages their way. Also I was allied with Castille and keeping good relations to England to avoid nasty wars against great powers.

Then I got in the war of pommerian succession against Castille. England is allied with Castille, so I had to defend myself against both. Somehow I am still allied with Castille, and due to a war against some rebelling provinces of Castilles, I ended up in the same alliance as England as well during some point of the war.

After a long and very very bloody war, I have a war score of 93%. I sunk their navies with a bleeding heart (as they are the closest thing I have to allies I really do not want to make them that much weaker).

Then I tried getting the personal union peace (requires 40% warscore). They refused and kept refusing. As I suggested it to both of them, I pounded them down to -3 stability (again with a bleeding heart). All this for the crown of one small province.

What will I have to do to make them accept the 40% war score peace offer? I really hope that I will not have to get 100% war score - it would be nearly impossible.

thorpemark · 13-03-2007, 03:53

Look closely at where they have claims and cores.

They are very loathe to surrender cores when they have non-cores to offer you. I also suspect that there are settlements that they simply will not accept no matter what.. they are forcing you to continue fighting until you have 100% war score.

I had this problem a couple times already. I think it was Lithuania that attacked me after they had expanded into northern german area... I wanted Desden as part of teh 3 provinces I wanted and they kept refusing. No matter the war score.. they wanted no part of giving me Dresden. They offered me privinces around it many times, I refused and asked for Dresden.. no, no ,no.. eventually I HAD to accept their offer.

Eventually, Mecklenberg took Dresden from them.

annodomini · 13-03-2007, 04:00

AFAIK if you keep sending diplomats their way when they're at -3 stab they will eventually give in...sometimes it takes a while. I've heard that taking their capital (if you haven't already) will also speed things along nicely.

Manziel · 13-03-2007, 14:22

it is quite difficult to get castille accepting a peace offer since they have usually lots of provinces. even if you have a warscore of more than 90%, there can be dozens of provinces left that are not occupied yet. so try to occupy more of their provinces or just take the next peace-offer they send to you. you will lose some prestige in doing that but it will end the war to them

Curwen · 13-03-2007, 22:10

Okay thanks for the suggestions.

Btw, I get spammed with peace agreement offers from both sides, offering numerous provinces and hundreds of gold. But as it is a war of succession, I will loose a load of prestige (like all the prestige I have, being #1 in the world) if I take any other peace offer than the one with the succession (tried once and loaded).

Guess my only chance is invading their homelands and get the war score up.

13-03-2007, 14:22	#4
Manziel Lt. General Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,268	it is quite difficult to get castille accepting a peace offer since they have usually lots of provinces. even if you have a warscore of more than 90%, there can be dozens of provinces left that are not occupied yet. so try to occupy more of their provinces or just take the next peace-offer they send to you. you will lose some prestige in doing that but it will end the war to them __________________ A comparison of CAs, BBs and SHBBs Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin

13-03-2007, 22:10	#5
Curwen Cupholder Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prov#294 Posts: 320	Okay thanks for the suggestions. Btw, I get spammed with peace agreement offers from both sides, offering numerous provinces and hundreds of gold. But as it is a war of succession, I will loose a load of prestige (like all the prestige I have, being #1 in the world) if I take any other peace offer than the one with the succession (tried once and loaded). Guess my only chance is invading their homelands and get the war score up. __________________ No, I only LOOK dead. Thank you for asking. Support the War Against Disco

13-03-2007, 01:20	#1
Curwen Cupholder Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prov#294 Posts: 320	My problems with peace in war of succession Tried looking through the forums, googled and couldn't find anything. I'm playing as Denmark and doing pretty good. Pommeian revolted and emerged. I like small countries that are result of rebellions, so I threw guarantees and royal marriages their way. Also I was allied with Castille and keeping good relations to England to avoid nasty wars against great powers. Then I got in the war of pommerian succession against Castille. England is allied with Castille, so I had to defend myself against both. Somehow I am still allied with Castille, and due to a war against some rebelling provinces of Castilles, I ended up in the same alliance as England as well during some point of the war. After a long and very very bloody war, I have a war score of 93%. I sunk their navies with a bleeding heart (as they are the closest thing I have to allies I really do not want to make them that much weaker). Then I tried getting the personal union peace (requires 40% warscore). They refused and kept refusing. As I suggested it to both of them, I pounded them down to -3 stability (again with a bleeding heart). All this for the crown of one small province. What will I have to do to make them accept the 40% war score peace offer? I really hope that I will not have to get 100% war score - it would be nearly impossible. __________________ No, I only LOOK dead. Thank you for asking. Support the War Against Disco

13-03-2007, 04:00	#3
annodomini Corporal Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 30	AFAIK if you keep sending diplomats their way when they're at -3 stab they will eventually give in...sometimes it takes a while. I've heard that taking their capital (if you haven't already) will also speed things along nicely.