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Old 24-02-2007, 22:40   #1
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Medieval Universalis III

I am releasing the BETA version of Medieval Universalis III which starts in 1288.

There are still some minor bugs with missing monarch names and proper borders which will be fixed in time.

Please contact me with all kinds of feedback so we can have this mod running properly. Thanks.


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Old 24-02-2007, 22:41   #2
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VERSION:
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MU III Beta v.0.4 - (April 30, 2007)
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Disclaimer:
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This is a beta version of the Mod and is not finished. I am releasing it for feedback and additional support information.

- The tech costs and dates need some minor tweaking.
- Some provinces do not represent their 1288 ownership status.
- Most countries outside Europe and the Middle East may not accurately represent the situation in 1288.
- The mod won't overwrite your files.
- You need the original EU III for this mod to work.

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Credits:
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- Kaigon for the Atage Mod enabling proper labels
- TravisJ for the countries in his EmpireMod
- Seboden for the information and guide on changing the start date
- Paradox forum community for the help and support
- Medieval Universalis III Mod Team:
(Tunch Khan, Veldmaarschalk, Mandead and Cool-Toxic)
- Medieval Universalis III Mod Contributors:
(Birger, Sleepyhead, Gigalocus, Clodius, Maximator, A.K.Caesar, Krans, kolmy, yarovit, Basileios I)
- Mrdie for Jerusalem Mod
- tank source for Prussia Mod
- merlin2199 for some custom graphics and flags

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Installation:
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- Unzip the contents into your Mods directory under Europa Universalis folder
- Backup your original EU III e3game.exe file
- Run the medievalpatch application to patch the original to change the start date to 1288.

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Beta v.0.4 Version Changes:
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+ Fixed the patcher file to work with the new EUIII v.1.2

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Beta v.0.3 Version Changes:
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+ Fixed the blank endscreen problem
+ Added many new monarchs, many custom graphics and flags
+ Adjusted the tech average_start dates some more
+ Added new playable countries:
- Leon (revolter)
- Achaia Principality
- Kingdom of Majorca
- Germiyan Beydom
- Catalan Company
+ Added new nations to be unified:
- Byzantium (please note, you can already start as Byzantium as well)
- Arles Kingdom
- Carolingian Empire
- Great Seljuk Empire
- Ottoman Empire
+ Fixed some unification events for:
- Germany
- Italy
+ Fixed Thrace population to greek & orthodox
+ Fixed more border issues in the East

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Features:
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+ Game starts on the year 1288 AD


+ Added new playable countries:

- Seljuk Rum Sultanate (1077-1307)
- Shirvan Khanate (861-1539)
- Jerusalem (1099-1291)
- Mazandaran (783-1596)
- Gilan (ca.1200-1584)
- Templars (119-1307)
- Ilkhanate Empire (1256-1336)
- Armenia (1078-1375)
- Wales (1094-1301)
- County of Tripoli (1102-1289)
- Karesi Beydom (1280-1360)
- Aydinoglu Beydom (1288-1425)
- Menteshe Beydom (1288-1425)

+ Added new rebel nations:

- Ramazanoglu Beydom (1352-1517)
- Musha'sha

+ Fixed some culture conflicts

- Azerbaijani included to Altaic
- Albanian made a unique culture
- Hungarian included to Finno-Ugric
- Romanian included to Byzantine
- Tajihk included to Persian
- Chagatai added as a culture (subgroup of Altaic)
- Bosnian added as a culture (subgroup of South_Slavic)
- Eastern Altaic made a seperate culture group

+ Fixed gfx/flags files:

- England
- Denmark
- Candar
- Timurid
- Wales

+ Fixed History/countries files:

+ Fixed History/advisors file:

+ Fixed History/provinces file:

+ Fixed localisation text files:

+ Added Events:

- Atage title events

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+ Add new playable countries/rebels:

- Ahi Republic
- Alaiye Beydom (1293-1471)
- Principality of Gothia (12th Century-1475)
- County of Djerba

+ Add new nations for unification:

- Byzantine Empire: Greek Orthodox minors in Istanbul
- Latin Empire: Catholic Istanbul
- Seljuk Empire: Turkish minors

+ Fix more gfx/flags files:

- Trebizond
- Mamluks

+ Fix more Common/country files:

+ Fix more Common/countries file:

+ Fix more Common/cultures file:

+ Add Events:

- Many flavor events with historical information and minimal consequences

+ Enable royal marriages between the Muslim and Orthodox countries

+ Add new buildings unique to the East

- Hammam: Increased stability
- caravanserai (Lodging for merchants): Increased trade value, tax
- Medreseh (University):
- Imarethane Public Kitchens and Shelters): Lover revolt risk
- Dar-us Sifa (Hospital): Increase in population
- Fountain:

+ Some map corrections and additions to the provinces

+ Add more historical advisors with proper values
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Old 24-02-2007, 22:42   #3
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Europe in 1288:




The Crusader States squeezed between the Mamluks and the Il-Khanate Mongol Hordes:




Ottomans establishing their minor frontier beydom against the mighty Roman Empire:




Right before the end for small Italian City Republics:

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Old 24-02-2007, 23:05   #4
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Emm... this is already under construction. Go back some pages. I made a thread for MU (a mod I made for EU2 a year or two back) already - please don't steal my mod name.
Dear mandead,
I am sorry you feel the name is your property, but this project has been going on for quite some time now, much longer than your three week old thread on this forum and much before EUIII has been released (early September of 2006): http://europauniversalis2.myfreeforum.org/forum96.php

I found your mentioned thread 10 pages back with the last post dating from two weeks ago. There is no sign of activity or information. You throw around a date in one post, but did not even bother to answer questions posed at you over there.

I admire your enthusiasm, but if you want to be part of a medieval mod, you can help us with some feedback. There's still much to be done and room for everyone.
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Dear mandead,
I am sorry you feel the name is your property, but this project has been going on for quite some time now, much longer than your three week old thread on this forum and much before EUIII has been released (early September of 2006): http://europauniversalis2.myfreeforum.org/forum96.php

I found your mentioned thread 10 pages back with the last post dating from two weeks ago. There is no sign of activity or information. You throw around a date in one post, but did not even bother to answer questions posed at you over there.

I admire your enthusiasm, but if you want to be part of a medieval mod, you can help us with some feedback. There's still much to be done and room for everyone.
Also You have to really have something done. No offense but it looks like Tunch is on the ball so it would be best if you both work together.
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My mod dates back around a year. It's a work-in-progress. I update the thread in batches (ie, when a release is ready).

I don't 'own' the name, it's just the name of my mod. It'd be silly to have two mods (particularly with similar timelines) with the same name.

It's just courtesy, isn't it? If you'd change your name, I'd appreciate it immensely.

Cheers!
Dear mandead,
My mod is currently being uploaded and should be released within 30 minutes or less. I would have loved to see your mod released as well, or at least read something about your progress so far. Unfortunately, all I can find is the mentioned three week old single post claiming your intentions and ideas.

It is a Paradox tradition to name EU mods in a fancy style ending with "Universalis"; please chek the EUII Mod forum:

- Rome Universalis
- Fantasia Universalis
- Arabia Universalis
- Iberia Universalis and so forth...

So it is only reasonable and plausible for me to name my "medieval" themed mod which starts in 1288 as "Medieval Universalis III".

Had you released a mod or made something public before my finished work, I would have gladly changed the name, but it seems we are talking on something that is only in your mind.

So lets get this thing behind us and use our energies for improving the mod.
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Old 24-02-2007, 23:56   #7
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Mandead, I think it'd be great if you worked with Khan. Much better than competition.
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The beta version is ready for downloading.
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Please don't patronise me; I am quite aware of the traditions of mod naming...

Neither is my mod in my mind, it's in several MB of text files. I must say, I think you're being rather stubborn, unfair and petty. It's hardly a lot to ask of you; still, best of luck with your mod.
Dear mandead,
Before you start calling me names, remember that you are the first here who accused me of 'stealing' your mod, which only you claim exists. Now why don't you just relax and enjoy my mod or build up something on top of it.
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err I would like to give both of yours a spin, but Tunch seems to have been the only one to release the mod under that title to date correct? why not simply preface your titles for example, (Tunch Khan) Medieval Universalis III so people see who produced which version? a name can just as easily be shared IMO...

at any rate im going to give yours a spin tunch, been trying Magna Mundi mod recently as well. will send any appropiate feedback on issues as they arise.
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I didn't say you stole my mod, simply my name.

There is evidence enough several pages back in the EU3 thread, not to mention pages of stuff in the EU2 mod forum.

I remember the original thread for this mod (I contributed to it), and I told you I'd started MU for EU3 there. If you choose not to remember, then that's your business.
Dear mandead,

The evidence you are talking about is your thread here, which dates to 26 November 2006. That is more than two months after I have released my project, which is dated 23 September 2006 and have been active on it in these forums ever since.

And yes, you have aggressively stated the same empty claims back then:
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You stole my mod name, you bastard!
So once again, please calm down and tune your voice to a reasonable level. After that, you are always welcome to contribute here. Speaking of, thanks for your 'contirbution' of posting the English flag. I don'w know how we could have found it otherwise.
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One should be called Medieval Universalis III and the other Medieval Universalis 3.
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Old 25-02-2007, 07:01   #13
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Mandead, why don't you just join in and help this mod? I don't get what the big deal here is...
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This looks really great Tunch!
Hope that we'll get alot of small provinces in the mideast.

I would be happy to help.


Btw, i also think that you two should maybe try to merge the mods, i think it's too big a mod to make two seperate of, it would be better to focus on one big.
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Holy fishbread, while this is a gread mod, it appears people like behaving immaturely..
Tunch, what's the big deal about just renaming it to something else.. I don't know, "Feudalis Universalis", "Deus Vult", "Sword and Cross" and so on are just as good possibilities. Besides, Medieval Universalis doesn't really fit into the "(Latin Word) Universalis" convention..
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Old 25-02-2007, 14:42   #16
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- The tech costs and adjustments are not working as intended.
What isn't working? They seem to be working as they should, that is, everybody starts with the technologies which have a start date before 1288, which is level 0.

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- The end game screen is not functioning.
well, I can not confirm that. It is working like normal and appearing on January 1st 1793. If you want it to end at another time you need to change it in the exe (see my guide). Also why do you have the game start on 30th May? any specific reason? You can easily change that, too.

EDIT: oops, I just realised you meant the summary of the rulers reigns and not the end of game screen you get in 1793. Sorry.
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Old 25-02-2007, 14:57   #17
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if only the leaders of the israeli and palestinian states could learn from these two about how to resolve your differences when faced with the challenge of a situation where two have legitimate claims to the same thing...

okay, sorry, that wasn't helpful. i can certainly say that i would like to see more cooperation between modders with perhaps slightly different views on how a mod should change the game. it seems all too common to see people take a mod in the direction they want, exclusive of all other opinions. i have read some seriously napoleonic statements on this board by people in response to requests for including something in a mod that maybe the mod creator had not envisioned.

it's simple folks: you can't include everything in every mod for sure, but the more creative voices that go into something the more popular it is likely to be.

also, it's a great title, but there are probably better ones out there. for example, because of this argument i'm changing the title of my mod to something completely unrelated: Master Exploder Mod. That is because it's so awesome you have to listen to the song Master Exploder when you first play it. I'm also thinking about maybe calling it More Human Than Human Mod, or possibly Supernova Goes Pop Mod.
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Old 25-02-2007, 17:22   #18
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Hi

My first message in these forums. Your mod sounds just great. Im gonna finish my first game within few days and then try your mod.

What comes to this name brawl, I think it would be best just to end it and not to dwelwe in it. Two mods with the same name, big whooping deal

I cant wait to get my hands on this mod.
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Master Exploder.

My final words on the subject are this: Tunch Khan has no legitimate claim to the name of my mod whatsoever. His mod was called Medieval EU3 Mod beforehand. That was the name of his thread (he posted a link to it on the previous page). Exactly when and why he decided to adopt my name for his mod I am not sure, but it's quite recent, and certainly doesn't pre-date either the start of my original EU3 Medieval Universalis thread, or the older EU2 one.

The most obvious solution would be to let me carry on with my mod, with its original name, and for him to simply change a few lines of his in order to adopt a new name.

It's not a lot to ask, and would solve this little dispute once and for all, wouldn't it?
Dear mandead,
I have a mod and you have a big mouth, that's what it is. The mod is out here and it's beta is public. You don't even have a discussion thread, a project thread or anything else.

It's like you are talking of "communism" while I am the one to make a "revolution".

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Yes, where it wasn't called Medieval Universalis! You stole my mod name - get your own. I'm not asking anything else. I do not wish to use your files or your ideas, just get your own bloody name!

Grow up, you are being unreasonable. I'm angry at you stealing my mod name, that's all. Imagine if the AGCEEP or Age of Imperialism or something set up a page here to let people know it was under construction - regardless of how many posts there had been, you wouldn't go and steal their name just because you liked it, would you? No, 'course not. Same applies here.:
You keep calling me names over and over and than openly insult me with words like bastard! and make angry faces, and yet it is me who is unreasonable and needs to grow up? Nice try.

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And do not make further sarcastic comments regarding flags. For one, I have never posted an England flag for EU3, and secondly, I am one of only about three people who makes the time and effort to post flags for people to use. Don't be snide about something which is time-consuming, yet I give up some of my free time to do in order to give people that little extra.
About the sarcastic comment, please find your own contribution here for yourself and post it here. You keep lying over stupid things, just check this link here showing your lie and "time consuming contribution".


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...Btw, i also think that you two should maybe try to merge the mods, i think it's too big a mod to make two seperate of, it would be better to focus on one big.
I repeatedly invited mandead to this project for his contribution, but get insulted in return. I would gladly accept any kind of help for this mod, and will even merge it with some other mods if there's compatiblity. But for this, of course dear mandead has to come up with a mod first.

So far we've heard a lot from him, but he fails to reveal his so-called mod or his progress, not only here but also at other mod threads like GBM where he's keeping his work "private" and secret. It is mine and other's opinion that mandead is not a team player. I think he wants all the glory and titles and honors for himself without ever doing anything.

I will repeat my open invitation to him and anyone else to join me in this work and we can even merge the mods for greater fun and talk about naming afterwards.

But if mandead keeps his stubborn insults, then it would be my honor to compete with him in two seperate mods and have the forum community enjoy the diversity.

But until that time, please enjoy "Medieval Universalis III".
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notice some possible bugs -



1st) what happened to the sea and rivers?
2nd) some countries have the great king: no ruler.

note: I understand its a beta, so, im not giving you a hard time,
also, these may be because i installed it onto a 'used' EUIII

anyway, best of luch with your mod!
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