Anders 3rd Sunday game

[Phadishar]

Since Anders have been banned a few days I will put up this post.


Rules

1. Diplomacy&Trading

1.1 No DOW until Danzing Event, exception made to event wars(i.e. Italy to Albania, Japan in China).
1.2 Couping of player controlled countries is forbidden.
1.3 No crazy alliances. The alliances are historical Axis against Allies and Comintern.
1.4 Allies/commitern may not ally nat spain and axis may not ally rep.spain.
1.5 USSR cannot grant(or be granted) military access to other Allied players.
1.6 Guarantee of indepence(GOI) is only allowed to do to Sweden, Spain, Switzerland and Turky. Finland may also be GOI for but only after the winter war have ended.


1.7 The Allies and USSR may not trade for rares unless their IC gives them a deficit of rares.
1.8 After the Allies are in war with Axis, Allies are allowed to initiate trade deals with USA at 50% otherwise 90%. Once usa is at war any trade deals may be offered.
1.9 After USSR is in war with Axis, USSR is allowed to initiate trades with USA at 70%, 50% if USA is also in war with Axis. Otherwise 90% just as allies.
1.10 Game get paused after the first day in the first session so axis can do trade, after that all can trade as much they want.


2. Events

2.1 Anschluss, Munich Treaty, End of Czechoslovakia, Memel, Danzig and Poland join Allies, should go historical.
2.2 Germany must declare war on Poland in the Danzig Event.
2.3 USSR must accept Bitter Peace if offered.
2.4 France must accept Vichy event if offered.

3. Axis

3.1 Italy free to join Axis after ending war with albania.
3.2 Japan can join Axis or DOW Allies after Vichy Event.


4. USA allowed to join Allies or DOW Axis (if sliders allow this) :

4.1 1 December 1941.
4.2 3 months after Japan is in war with the Allies, USSR or Netherlands.
4.3 Immediately after any invasion of an American country.
4.4 USA must have all air, navy and land forces stationed in USA main land or islands.

5. USSR and the MR-Pact

5.1 Germany may dow USSR when ever.
5.2 USSR must accept and honor the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact if offered full.
5.3 USSR can DOW Axis after July 1, 1941 (Full Pact).
5.4 USSR can DOW Axis after July 1, 1940 (Limited Pact).
5.5 USSR can DOW anyone, anytime (No Pact).
5.6 May not disband any of its starting infantry divisions during peace time.
5.7 No Unholy Alliance, unless all players agree to it when starting game

6. General

6.1 No use of any exploits or cheating of any kind. If you see anything you consider exploit or cheating you must report it.
6.2 No 'phoney-wars'. Wars declared should be fought to a peace or annexation (ie. no eternal wars with Albania as Italy or Chinese as Japan).
6.3 No stationing of any country's, Land, Air or Navy forces, on other country, prior to war.
6.5 No more than 36 divisions may garrison an urban capital. 24 for the poles.
6.6 No redeployment/disbanding of units about to be encircled/outflanked/destroyed by land forces.
6.7 No redeployment of units that are adjacent to enemy units.
6.8 Free France shall not have more than 5 Land/Air units, when declares independence.
6.9 Forbidden to sell VP provinces to your allies to prevent their annexation.
No exploiting of sending exp. forces to save supplies, especially in peacetime.
6.10 No allying before Vichy (exceptien Germany may ally italy,hungary and Romania.)

7. Victory Conditions

7.1 Game victory points, at Jan 1, 1958, decide who claims victory.
7.2 A team can claim victory earlier than 1958, if all opponent players are annexed.
7.3 A team can claim victory earlier than 1958, if its enemys industrial capacity is less than 40% of theirs.


Germany: Stalins Elite
Italy: M&M
Japan: Winger
Nat.Spain: BoraK

UK: Phadishar
SU: Cohen
USA: Anders
Canada: Eskordelin

[Phadishar]

I changed this rule
4.5 Immediately after any 3 key USSR cities (Leningrad, Moscow, Stalingrad or baku) are surrounded or taken.
Think this will be more balanced this way, I chnged it from 2 cities to 3 and I added one city(Baku.)

[Cohen]

I'd remove the USA allowed to intervene if UK is invaded or the 3 SU cities are taken or surrounded.

A good planning of the German, or a poor playing of the opposing sides should not allow USA to get in, that's my opinion.
On the other hand I'd say USA could join immediately when Japan dows Allies or Holland, and 3 months after Soviets.

[ice_world]

i rock.
incase you didnt allready know

[Hering]

I'm in too

[Phadishar]

Originally Posted by Hering

I'm in too

You are? I thought we where full, noob

Ok Cohen then I change the rules a bit takes away that about 3 cities and UK invaded and add 3 months war entry for USA if japan dows either holland or UK or SU.

When I last played Germany I had to start playing bad it did suck a bit. The rules are changed for the better to Axis so hopefully all agrees?

[Cohen]

Phad, not exactly what I told.

Remove the UK invasion, and SU cities falling rule.

But USA can instantly join Allies if Jap takes any action against Allies, Holland or SU. Not adding 3 months. Historically Japs stroke at them all xcept the Soviets, so I think it's fair USA react to that.
(to be more precise, regarding SU, when SU fights both Germany and Japan - in case in other games Jap goes at war with Nomohan Lake event, and Germany is still at peace with Soviets. When Germany will launch his barbarossa in this case the dual front for soviet happens and USA can join).

[Phadishar]

Originally Posted by Cohen

Phad, not exactly what I told.

Remove the UK invasion, and SU cities falling rule.

But USA can instantly join Allies if Jap takes any action against Allies, Holland or SU. Not adding 3 months. Historically Japs stroke at them all xcept the Soviets, so I think it's fair USA react to that.
(to be more precise, regarding SU, when SU fights both Germany and Japan - in case in other games Jap goes at war with Nomohan Lake event, and Germany is still at peace with Soviets. When Germany will launch his barbarossa in this case the dual front for soviet happens and USA can join).

I didn't add 3 months, I shorted it down from 6 months to 3 months.
I think UK and/or SU can hold for that time.

[ice_world]

I'll probably won't be able to play with you fellas this weekend
Hope it won't matter much as I played a minor.

[Phadishar]

Originally Posted by ice_world

I'll probably won't be able to play with you fellas this weekend
Hope it won't matter much as I played a minor.

Nope, but good that you told us so that we don't waist time waiting.

[rujadd]

can i also join? im not experienced in mp but i hope you wont reject me because of that
i dont know but if you let me play id like to choose spain

[Kategorie_C]

No newbies, just the same old noobs, please

[Winger]

Tonight at 1800 CET?

[Phadishar]

Originally Posted by Winger

Tonight at 1800 CET?

Yupp that is correct

[Axis Comrade]

Just got home from work. I'll be there soon. SE.

[BoraK]

For the suez is gone. Would that really have an impact on Franco's decision to take his tired country to war again? His advisors are divided. That would be, too say the least. Hope I can continue this game with you guys next week.

[Phadishar]

Originally Posted by BoraK

For the suez is gone. Would that really have an impact on Franco's decision to take his tired country to war again? His advisors are divided. That would be, too say the least. Hope I can continue this game with you guys next week.

Your welcome, but when a dozen english tanks lands in north afrika I don't think Suez will stay in Italys hands much longer.
SE how much manpower did you lose in france do you think?

[Kategorie_C]

SE is well known for conserving his manpower. He never lets it fall below 10

[Axis Comrade]

Kat your wrong. It fell below 8 there at one stage, OMFG! But all is good now and manpower reserves are well up above 150. The luftwaffe is reinforced and being upgraded at a rapid pace. Soon we will have air supperiority in the skies and the RAF will be grounded indefinately. Out of the 200 land divisions that took part in the assault on France, I would guess that it cost me any where between 250-400mp points in losses. This is kind of historical as the Germans lost something like 300'000 to 400'000 troops in the battle of France and the Low Countries. As our army is more than large enough a massive airforce and armour expansion project is underway. Who knows, jerry might even make an attempt to challenge the RAN directly in the open seas in the coming year or two. So with that said, I doubt that manpower reserves will be an issue for Germany in the coming years.

As for Franco. He has been hinting to the Reich for some time that he would like us to help him regain Gibralta which was stolen from the Spanish by the British some years ago. I'm sure that Franco's exhuasted country would happily unite and help they're German and Italian friends help them, regain Gibralta from the real enemy here. Britain. So Germany puts out a plea to the countries of the world, namely the major powers Russia and Japan. Cease all trades with Britain both economically and military and make them pay for starting yet another great war on the european continent. Germany stands strong and so do our allies. SE.

[Phadishar]

Switch to navy production could salve manpower problem but then Germany won't have much once SU invades in july 1941.