Spanish AAR

[Red Barron]

How about a Spain aar-1836-1952. Any intrest! Kinda played a few Victoria games. Just got Revolutions, so I can convert it too doomsday. Not sure how people would want both in this forum...


Any thoughts.

[coz1]

Sure. Go for it.

[soonerborn0524]

I love AARs that convert. Will you expand, colonialy and possibly into Portugal?

[Burgundy]

Would be interesting, why not try to restore the colonial empire of Spain

[Red Barron]

ok, let me do a few more test runs with the game, get a feel for the other features. Yes, Portugal is going down, tested that out. Problally going to play it as normal, aggresive. Read the history, this contry is a mess after what happened when Napoleon invaded it.

[Black Baron]

YES go for it!!! But its kinda hard

[Red Barron]

Here some ideas I am thinking of doing.
Military Spain
Vanilla version, all techs’s remaining the same.

My moded version, (by myself) Renaissance Spain, where it starts with all techs even with UK, France and USA. Thinking about expanding the middle class pops for the mod. 1 Extra factory.


Don't want to give too much away, but the moded one is challenging as well, but gives a platform for improving things on par with the great powers.

Both Versions England and France joined forces and destroyed Spain. The Two Siclies, walked out of the alliance and Spain loses everything, including being invaded by the UK and France.

How does everyone feel about a moded version of Spain? Believe me, it does not make things easier, but does give Spain a chance to reclaim, equal footing with great powers going into the 20th Century. (by the way, 1st time playing Victoria). Just got it 3 weeks ago.

Want to make an entertaining AAR.

[Black Baron]

Thats pretty good trying to make everything equal. When I play spain I pretty much have to mod it if I want to have a little fun

[soonerborn0524]

I have no problem with you modding it. That might make it more interesting, actually. . .

[Red Barron]

Century of Spanish resurgence



Consequences of the Napoleonic rule in Spain
The French invasion had numerous consequences for Spain. The war proved disastrous for Spain's economy, reversing the improvements of the late 18th century. It also brought a political and territorial legacy, but would also leave a deeply divided country prone to great political instability for over a century. In 1812, the Liberal Courts of Cádiz redacted a Constitution, bringing to the country a new form of government, and one by which future monarchs would have to rule, more or less willingly. The power vacuum between 1808 and 1814 had enabled local juntas in the Spanish colonies in America to rule independently. Starting as early as 1809, the continent started freeing itself from Spanish rule; by 1825 with the exceptions of Cuba, Puerto Rico and the Philippines, and a number of tiny Pacific Islands, Spain had lost all its colonies in Latin America.




Reaction (1814-1820)


King Ferdinand VII's refusal to agree to the liberal Spanish Constitution of 1812 on his accession to the throne in 1814 came as little surprise to most Spaniards; the king had signed on to agreements with the clergy, the church, and with the nobility in his country to return to the earlier state of affairs even before the fall of Napoleon. The decision to abrogate the Constitution was not welcomed by all, however. Liberals in Spain felt betrayed by the king who they had decided to support, and many of the local juntas that had pronounced against the rule of Joseph Bonaparte lost confidence in the king's rule. The army, which had backed the pronouncements, had liberal leanings that made the king's position tenuous. Even so, agreements made at the Congress of Vienna (where Spain was represented by Pedro Gómez Labrador, Marquis of Labrador) starting a year later would cement international support for the old, absolutist regime in Spain


Rafael del Riego


Trienio liberal (1820-1833)

conspiracy of liberal mid-ranking officers in the expedition being outfitted at Cadiz mutinied before they were shipped to the Americas. Led by Rafael del Riego, the conspirators seized their commander and led their army around Andalusia hoping to gather support; garrisons across Spain declared their support for the would-be revolutionaries. Riego and his co-conspirators demanded that the liberal Constitution of 1812 be restored. Before the coup became an outright revolution, King Ferdinand agreed to the demands of the revolutionaries and swore by the constitution. A "Progresista" (liberal) government was appointed, though the king expressed his disaffection with the new administration and constitution.


Rafael del Riego
Having the seized power, set out on reforms that would turn around, the downward Spiral of his country. Not a military man, he worked for the people. Great admirer of how America had thrown of the chains of England and followed closely the ideas of the French enlightenment He did the following things keeping fractions at bay, by threat and diplomacy.

He enacted voter’s rights, universal suffrage gaining support of the people common people and further safe guarding his political position in Spain.

He focused on industrialization, education and expansion of the middle class. These reforms allowed a Spanish people to lift the standard of living in the country.

He started out with state controlled economy and builds 2 pet factories of his own.
Invested creating more Clerks they by increasing factory output and increasing the size of the middle class.

He invested in technology, creating a Spanish Renaissance of free thought and tolerance. Not seen anywhere except in America and England.

With diplomatic skill, he kept King Ferdinand VII's ideas of returning to the old order at bay.

Ferdinand died in 1833, at the age of 49. He was succeeded by his daughter Isabella under the terms of the Pragmatic Sanction, and his wife, Maria Christina, became regent for her daughter, who at that time was only three years of age. Carlos disputed the legitimacy of Maria Christina's regency and the accession of her daughter, and declared himself to be the rightful heir to the Spanish throne. Rafael del Riego was dismissed from office starting civil war in spain.



Maria Christina


Isabella



Ferdinand VII's wife, Maria Cristina of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, who bore some marks as a liberal and a reformer. However, when she became regent for her daughter Isabella in 1833, she made it clear to the court that she intended to continue reforms. Even still, an alliance of convenience was formed with the progressista faction at court against the conservatives, who backed the rebel Infante Carlos of Spain.

[Black Baron]

Ah the Carlist War how delightful!

[Red Barron]

The Carlist War and the Regencies



Maria Christina of Bourbon, Princess of the Two Sicilies, Queen of Spain (Maria Cristina Ferdinanda of the Two Sicilies branch of the Royal House of Bourbon) (April 27, 1806–August 22, 1878) was Queen Consort of Spain (1829 to 1833) and Queen Regent of Spain (1833 to 1840). Maria Christina was the fourth wife of King Ferdinand VII of Spain (Fernando in Spanish) (1784-1833, king 1813-1833) and mother of and regent for Queen Isabella II of Spain (Isabel in Spanish) (1830-1904, queen 1833-1868). Originally titled Her Royal Highness, Princess Maria Christina of Naples and Sicily, on December 18, 1816 her title was changed to Princess of the Two Sicilies when her father changed the name of his kingdom. Her Spanish name was María Cristina de las Dos Sicilias.

Queen Isabella succeeded to the throne because Ferdinand VII induced the Cortes to assist him in setting aside the Salic law, which the Bourbons had introduced in the beginning of the 18th century, and to re-establish the older succession law of Spain. The brother of Ferdinand, Carlos, the first pretender, fought seven years, during the minority of Isabella, to dispute her title. Supporters of Carlos and his descendants were known as Carlists and the dispute over the succession was the subject of a number of Carlist Wars in the 19th century.

I did support the Isabella II for the Carlist war, thought I saved that screen.

Her opponent
Carlos Maria Isidro, Infante of Spain, the leader of the Carlist cause and pretender to the Spanish throne.

Carlos, who declared his support for the ancient, pre-Bourbon privileges of the fueros, received considerable support from the Basque country, Aragon, and Catalonia, which valued their ancient privileges from Madrid.

Maria Christina,

Seeing that civil war and decent is breaking out all over Spain, she decides to invest in the military.

She has come to the conclusion that the British division is much to expensive and desolves it.





Our focus will be on Spanish divisions from now on!

[Red Barron]

Marie wanting to reclaim the Spanish Golden Age of Spanish Habsburgs, continued the Policy of improving relations with Austria-Hungry.

Spanish Golden Age of Spanish Habsburgs


She also secretly planned the return of Gibraltar, a small but strategic British overseas territory which lies near the Peninsula's southernmost tip, in the Eastern side of the Strait of Gibraltar. It was conquered during the War of the Spanish Succession in 1704 and was ceded to Britain in perpetuity in the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht

[Black Baron]

pretty good so far.

[Red Barron]

Maria also wondered what to do about unproductive factories.

Maria decides to

1. Invest in more clerks.
2. Invest in Railroads

This should boost productivity.



Increasing infrastructure in the Spain, going along with the previous policy industrialization


Budget not much income, going to have to cut somewhere.

[Red Barron]

Originally Posted by Black Baron

pretty good so far.

Thanks, it's going to be intresting to see how this plays out.

Any idea's are welcome, I will take advise..

[Judas Maccabeus]

Originally Posted by Red Barron

Budget not much income, going to have to cut somewhere.

I'd recommend leaving your budget around where it is for now. Later on you could probably increase taxes a bit and lower crime fighting once militancy goes down.

As for the factories, yes, clerks are good (to an extent, of course, you still will need craftsmen. Somebody's got to do the work, after all; you can't just have people filling out forms, they're factories, not the government. ).

[Red Barron]

Maria with civil unrest, she dicides to do the following:

1. Invests in more craftsman for the factories.
2. With revolts going on in the Manila and Palma, Maria dispatches troops to the Philippines.
3. Hold an election, to help hold down revolts.





Spanish Election




Investing in more craftsman

[Red Barron]

Revolts going on all over, Civil war is rampant





Paying down dept and balancing the books

[Judas Maccabeus]

Juding from the pie chart on the election screens, things are going to get quite messy when the election rolls around...